Hampshire's greatest footballers 14:53 - Dec 20 with 29909 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Updated full list. Some very good players here. Of course Portsmouth gets the lions' share, but Southampton is a good second. I imagine that there is little dispute in this list, if we are basing it on facts and not bias. 1- 10 Top Draw Portsmouth : Von Donop : Hampshire’s first ever superstar Soton : Ted Drake : Good scoring rate, right time, right place Portsmouth : Reg Flewin : One of only 6 captains to win post war back to back championships Portsmouth : Peter Harris : Probably the highest ever scoring winger in England. Champion Alton: Jimmy Dickinson : Mr consistency for club and country. Champion Aldershot: Johnny Berry : In terms of trophies, tops the list. Champion Portsmouth : Ray Crawford : Scored the goals to give Ipswich the Championship Farnham : Peter Storey : Probably Hampshire’s hardest footballer, champion and serial winner Greater Portsmouth : Bobby Tambling : In Chelsea’s greatest ever team. Impressive scoring rate Portsmouth : Alex Chamberlain : Only player to win Europe’s highest accolade 10 — 20 : Excellent Players New Alresford : Sir Christopher Rawlinson Botley : Don Roper Soton : Tom Parker Greater Portsmouth : George Lilycrop Portsmouth : Johnny Gordon Winchester : Terry Paine Soton : Martin Chivers Portsmouth : Steve Foster Soton : Darren Anderton Winchester : Wayne Bridge 20 — 30 : Very good players New Forest : Frank Jefferis Soton : Peter Sillett Aldershot : Bruce Rioch Soton : Nick Holmes New Forest : Kevin Reeves Soton : Graham Roberts Bournemouth : Paul Rideout Greater Portsmouth : Kevin Pressman New Forest : Jamie Redknapp Basingstoke : Tom Cleverley 30 — 40 : Solid players Farnborough : John Mortimore Portsmouth : Phil Gunter Portsmouth : Malcolm Waldron Portsmouth : Bobby Stokes Soton : Francis Benali Romsey : Nigel Spackman Portsmouth : Daryl Powell Portsmouth Joel Ward Portsmouth : James Ward Prowse Portsmouth : Mason Mount 40 — 50 : Dependable players Greater Portsmouth : Albert Mundy Soton : John Sillett Hartley Wintney : Archie turner Portsmouth : David Jones Winchester : Steve Guppy Portsmouth : Steve Claridge Basingstoke : Kit Symons New Forest : Sam Vokes Greater Portsmouth : Matt Ritchie Petersfield : Calum Chambers Final Tally : Ports 21 Soton 9 NF 4, Winch 3, Aldershot 2, Basingstoke 2 Alton, Farnham, Botley, New Alresford, Farnborough, Bournemouth, Romsey, Petersfield, Hartley Wintney [Post edited 20 Dec 2019 15:48]
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 12:23 - Feb 27 with 1686 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:24 - Feb 26 by this_charming_man | So where do you draw the line with this? Southampton born Aaron Flahaven would have gone certainLy on to be a premier League player but for his tragic circumstances, so he should be in based on what might have happened not what did happen like Waldron is. As for producing better players if you’d listed them all correctly without missing quite a few off then as well as not cherry pickingThe criteria to suit your agenda then the list would look a lot different. [Post edited 26 Feb 2020 14:24]
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So, where are these Southampton lads that are near the top of the table for top flight goals or appearances? The fact that I have 'some' missing tells you that I haven't been researching it for months. There are sites with a lot of this info. My guess is that there are hardly any more players from Southampton who will fill the voids near the top of the tree. It's nice and convenient for you to say there are some missing, but lets see the evidence. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 11:27 - Mar 3 with 1641 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Fascinating piece by Alan Shearer on the BBC website ; ref English players and the forwards https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51700129 "It is clear that centre-forward is turning into a problem position for Southgate with all these players being sidelined. There has even been talk of Leicester City's Jamie Vardy making a return for England, but even he is injured at the moment. I think that is a non-starter anyway. Vardy all but retired from international football in August 2018 and I have never heard the 33-year-old say anything about changing his mind. If Kane and Rashford don't make it, then Abraham would be one of the main contenders if he is fit - but after that there is ONLY Calvert-Lewin and Southampton's Danny Ings to fall back on." ONLY Danny Ings He doesn't pull his punches does he? |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 11:37 - Mar 3 with 1635 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 12:23 - Feb 27 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | So, where are these Southampton lads that are near the top of the table for top flight goals or appearances? The fact that I have 'some' missing tells you that I haven't been researching it for months. There are sites with a lot of this info. My guess is that there are hardly any more players from Southampton who will fill the voids near the top of the tree. It's nice and convenient for you to say there are some missing, but lets see the evidence. |
Why do I need to provide evidence? It’s your list, you’re the one who has started multiple threads on it, you’re the one driving this. I simply pointed out your list is incomplete, subjective and in a number of cases inaccurate. The burden of proof is on you pal. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 11:42 - Mar 3 with 1633 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 11:37 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Why do I need to provide evidence? It’s your list, you’re the one who has started multiple threads on it, you’re the one driving this. I simply pointed out your list is incomplete, subjective and in a number of cases inaccurate. The burden of proof is on you pal. |
They're not here moosh http://free-elements.com/England/ts0.html I have looked |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 13:52 - Mar 3 with 1611 views | this_charming_man |
I never said they were in the top 100 goal scorers, that was something you said. I said there were several Southampton born players that you had missed off your list and there is. It's getting a bit embarrassing for you this isn't it. [Post edited 3 Mar 2020 13:56]
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:24 - Mar 3 with 1737 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:06 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Several, but you won't or can't name them!!. I've already said I will update the list, and mentioned a couple that need adding. The only other real omission is Jim Goodchild. The fact that that you know who some of the omissions are means that you have been studying this, even though you won't admit it. I admire your never give up spirit. And don't forget these arguments have been going on within this site for some while, and not always driven by me. I just challenge the sites somewhat predictable narrative, but have clearly shown most of the players at the top of the tree are from the Pompey area. |
Not really, i just saw the list and within about 30 seconds saw a number of Southampton based ommisions. Its your list and you're point you are proving so the burden of proof is on you. As things stand your list is subjective, very inaccurate, a number of omissions so not credible. Sorry about that. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:52 - Mar 3 with 1713 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:24 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Not really, i just saw the list and within about 30 seconds saw a number of Southampton based ommisions. Its your list and you're point you are proving so the burden of proof is on you. As things stand your list is subjective, very inaccurate, a number of omissions so not credible. Sorry about that. |
Oh yes, your 30 second list. Elliott (38 PL apps), Jutkiewicz (28 PL apps) And Brian Howard who has 0 PL appearances, and is from Winchester |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 14:54 - Mar 3 with 1711 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Brian Howard |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:48 - Mar 3 with 1689 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:43 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | There are other too. However the fact remains that a Hampshire born player with 1 bottom tier professional appearance in his career is more valid a member of your elite Hampshire players list than a player with 1000 international caps that isn't from Hampshire. Sorry about that. [Post edited 3 Mar 2020 15:45]
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Brian Howard is just so funny. Have a nice cup of tea fella, and try to forget about it. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:54 - Mar 3 with 1683 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:48 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Brian Howard is just so funny. Have a nice cup of tea fella, and try to forget about it. |
Not as funny as including players who are not from Hampshire in a list of Hampshire footballers Try and forget about it. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 16:33 - Mar 3 with 1671 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 15:54 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Not as funny as including players who are not from Hampshire in a list of Hampshire footballers Try and forget about it. |
Peter Storey lived in Ash, and Ash is within the Aldershot Urban area. Aldershot is in Hampshire Peter Storey also went to school in the Ash area ie now Ash manor School, also situated in the Aldershot urban area. Peter Storey lived and was schooled in a Hampshire urban area.   |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:11 - Mar 3 with 1660 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 16:33 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Peter Storey lived in Ash, and Ash is within the Aldershot Urban area. Aldershot is in Hampshire Peter Storey also went to school in the Ash area ie now Ash manor School, also situated in the Aldershot urban area. Peter Storey lived and was schooled in a Hampshire urban area.   |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash,_Surrey Own goal. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:21 - Mar 3 with 1646 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
From your page "It is within the Aldershot Urban Area" |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:23 - Mar 3 with 1644 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:21 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | From your page "It is within the Aldershot Urban Area" |
Which part of Shire county Surrey Make it part of Hampshire? |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:27 - Mar 3 with 1635 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:23 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | Which part of Shire county Surrey Make it part of Hampshire? |
Which part of Aldershot isn't in Hampshire? and btw lots of local Hampshire facilities/ centres are in Farnham. Whys is that? |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:45 - Mar 3 with 1620 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:38 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | Who is the best footballer from Hampshire? 1. Brian Howard from Southampton, well actually Winchester with Zero top flight appearances 2. Peter Storey who was born in a Surrey hospital, but schooled and lived in a Hampshire urban area, then played almost 400 games for Arsenal and 19 for England. Difficult I know |
1 Brian Howard Peter Storey isn't from Hampshire. He was born in Surrey and raised in Surrey. If the question was "who is the better the footballer?" Then clearly the answer would be different. Sorry about that. Can you please remove him from your list along with the other players you've included who aren't from Hampshire. You need to work with me here 130, i'm trying the help your list be more credible and factual. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:25 - Mar 3 with 1599 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 17:45 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | 1 Brian Howard Peter Storey isn't from Hampshire. He was born in Surrey and raised in Surrey. If the question was "who is the better the footballer?" Then clearly the answer would be different. Sorry about that. Can you please remove him from your list along with the other players you've included who aren't from Hampshire. You need to work with me here 130, i'm trying the help your list be more credible and factual. |
The problem is that you have brought up a website that clearly states Ash is part of the Aldershot urban area, Also, his school merged with the Robert Haining school in Mytchett, and what does your sister site say about Mytchett? "Mytchett forms an eastern flank of the Farnborough/Aldershot Built-up Area, a conurbation straddling a small part of the two counties mentioned (Surrey and Hampshire) and Berkshire" It would seem that kids going to Ash Manor school will be even more confused than previously, as they will be additionally mixing with kids from a town that 'straddles' Hampshire and Surrey as well as being brought up in a town that is part of an urban area of a famous Hampshire town. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:36 - Mar 3 with 1594 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:25 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that you have brought up a website that clearly states Ash is part of the Aldershot urban area, Also, his school merged with the Robert Haining school in Mytchett, and what does your sister site say about Mytchett? "Mytchett forms an eastern flank of the Farnborough/Aldershot Built-up Area, a conurbation straddling a small part of the two counties mentioned (Surrey and Hampshire) and Berkshire" It would seem that kids going to Ash Manor school will be even more confused than previously, as they will be additionally mixing with kids from a town that 'straddles' Hampshire and Surrey as well as being brought up in a town that is part of an urban area of a famous Hampshire town. |
There isnt a problem. Which county, not urban area but county, as per the title of your thread is Peter Storey from? |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:53 - Mar 3 with 1572 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:36 - Mar 3 by this_charming_man | There isnt a problem. Which county, not urban area but county, as per the title of your thread is Peter Storey from? |
The problem is that removing Storey from the list allows you to get another Soton lad into the top echelon of Hampshire players like Anderton, Chivers or Parker (all fine players btw). Portsmuthians aren’t worried about this of course, because they already have 5 lads in the top bunch with another Portsmouth Urban area lad additionally included. Storey would have certainly felt like a Hampshire lad, I guess the fairest way would be to ask him. |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:54 - Mar 3 with 1573 views | this_charming_man |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:53 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that removing Storey from the list allows you to get another Soton lad into the top echelon of Hampshire players like Anderton, Chivers or Parker (all fine players btw). Portsmuthians aren’t worried about this of course, because they already have 5 lads in the top bunch with another Portsmouth Urban area lad additionally included. Storey would have certainly felt like a Hampshire lad, I guess the fairest way would be to ask him. |
Why don’t you answer the question, you’re not usually so evasive Which county is he from? |  |
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Hampshire's greatest footballers on 19:01 - Mar 3 with 1570 views | Butty101 |
Hampshire's greatest footballers on 18:53 - Mar 3 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup | The problem is that removing Storey from the list allows you to get another Soton lad into the top echelon of Hampshire players like Anderton, Chivers or Parker (all fine players btw). Portsmuthians aren’t worried about this of course, because they already have 5 lads in the top bunch with another Portsmouth Urban area lad additionally included. Storey would have certainly felt like a Hampshire lad, I guess the fairest way would be to ask him. |
Don’t forget to rename the greater Portsmouth players as well. |  |
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