| Vitality Blast 22:16 - Jul 25 with 11185 views | EllDale |
Great win for Lancs at Headingley tonight. Didn’t think 170 runs would be enough but bowlers did well. |  | | |  |
| Vitality Blast on 07:42 - Aug 26 with 2023 views | EllDale |
Croft was on fire yesterday.
Heroics at Headingley meant that this went relatively unnoticed I suppose.
Would be great to the T20 finals and gain promotion in what is already a memorable year of cricket for a bigger audience than usual. | | | |
| Vitality Blast on 08:03 - Aug 26 with 2017 views | fitzochris |
| Vitality Blast on 07:42 - Aug 26 by EllDale |
Croft was on fire yesterday.
Heroics at Headingley meant that this went relatively unnoticed I suppose.
Would be great to the T20 finals and gain promotion in what is already a memorable year of cricket for a bigger audience than usual. |
Without being presumptive, the finals day is being held at Edgbaston. I’ve already looked into getting a ticket. Should Lancashire make the semis, it’s bound to be a great day.
With a league title also a real possibility, it’s definitely a great time to be an Lancs/England fan. While the latter may oft be frustrating, they’re definitely not boring. |  |
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| Vitality Blast on 16:49 - Aug 26 with 1931 views | Sandyman |
| Vitality Blast on 09:18 - Aug 20 by fitzochris |
Yeah, it's strange, especially when you think Hameed was playing in a test match for England just three years ago.
I don't know what Chapple sees in Bohannon. As you say, he doesn't offer anything to the attack and has no sense of permanence at the crease. |
Bohannon bowled out first ball today. |  | | |
| Vitality Blast on 18:14 - Aug 26 with 1898 views | fitzochris |
| Vitality Blast on 16:49 - Aug 26 by Sandyman |
Bohannon bowled out first ball today. |
Odd line up today overall and you have to assume it was experimental given we’re pretty much guaranteed a QF spot. Still, Maxwell and Vilas so far down the order, whatever the occasion, is sacrilegious. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 18:31 - Aug 26 with 1879 views | isitme |
| Vitality Blast on 18:14 - Aug 26 by fitzochris |
Odd line up today overall and you have to assume it was experimental given we’re pretty much guaranteed a QF spot. Still, Maxwell and Vilas so far down the order, whatever the occasion, is sacrilegious. |
Mahmood and Gleeson were rested. I suppose with a guaranteed home semi against either the third or fourth team from the southern group it made sense. Elevating Bohannon and Jennings above Maxwell and Vilas was odd. I'd still prefer Jones to play above Jennings as he is a better fielder and wouldn't always bat coming in at six and it would get the better batters more time in the middle. |  | | |
| Vitality Blast on 19:08 - Aug 26 with 1837 views | fitzochris |
| Vitality Blast on 18:31 - Aug 26 by isitme |
Mahmood and Gleeson were rested. I suppose with a guaranteed home semi against either the third or fourth team from the southern group it made sense. Elevating Bohannon and Jennings above Maxwell and Vilas was odd. I'd still prefer Jones to play above Jennings as he is a better fielder and wouldn't always bat coming in at six and it would get the better batters more time in the middle. |
Durham is the confirmed venue for our “home” QF. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 20:23 - Aug 26 with 1776 views | pioneer |
| Vitality Blast on 19:08 - Aug 26 by fitzochris |
Durham is the confirmed venue for our “home” QF. |
How did they come up with that then? Are the EFL running cricket now?
I suppose the only crowd that matters is the one tuning in to SKY so they could play it on the moon as far as the cricket authorities are concerned. | | | |
| Vitality Blast on 20:48 - Aug 26 with 1749 views | fitzochris |
| Vitality Blast on 20:23 - Aug 26 by pioneer |
How did they come up with that then? Are the EFL running cricket now?
I suppose the only crowd that matters is the one tuning in to SKY so they could play it on the moon as far as the cricket authorities are concerned. |
The choice was Lancashire’s in consultation with their potential opponents.
Liverpool was considered but the pitch wasn’t suitable. Durham has floodlights and the standard of facilities needed for this game. It’s far from ideal but the Test match was agreed last summer.
Now, I’m far from the ECB’s biggest fan, but this cant really be laid at their door.
The paid-for TV argument is losing steam too. People still tune in to the highlights show...
And future generations have been inspired...
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| Vitality Blast on 22:50 - Aug 26 with 1658 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 20:48 - Aug 26 by fitzochris |
The choice was Lancashire’s in consultation with their potential opponents.
Liverpool was considered but the pitch wasn’t suitable. Durham has floodlights and the standard of facilities needed for this game. It’s far from ideal but the Test match was agreed last summer.
Now, I’m far from the ECB’s biggest fan, but this cant really be laid at their door.
The paid-for TV argument is losing steam too. People still tune in to the highlights show...
And future generations have been inspired...
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Did England win a game yesterday? I thought they were 'useless'. |  |
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| Vitality Blast on 08:32 - Aug 27 with 1584 views | fitzochris |
| Vitality Blast on 22:50 - Aug 26 by TVOS1907 |
Did England win a game yesterday? I thought they were 'useless'. |
They may have done. No one knows. No one was watching. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 08:44 - Aug 27 with 1572 views | isitme |
The terestrial TV argument.
1) What matches would be shown? I would assume the advocates for would be looking at all England matches, would these include overseas tours and ICC tournaments where the rights are sold collectively, rather than for matches involving individual teams?
2) What terestrial channel would commit to the showing the matches? During the 2005 Ashes we had the Hollioakes scheduling issue and coverage was also interrupted for racing. What happens when play continues till 7 due to rain delays or a day nighter over runs? For all the complaints about them, the production values for Sky cricket are top notch. Would a terestrial channel be able to afford such a level of coverage. Bare in mind that the host broadcaster has to pay for the technology behind DRS.
3) What happens to the scraps? Sky show alot of cricket, from England internationals (men and women), T20 Blast (men and women), 50 over domestic cricket, the odd championship game at the business end of the seaon and a number of international series ot featuring England. The deal between the ECB and Sky includes the full package of coverage. Without the 'crown jewels' will the coverage of the 'lesser' game still exist to the same level, or at all? TV coverage of women's cricket could cease to exist.
4) What gets cut due to the financial shortfall? Sky have and do put a lot of money into the game which has seen the expansion of central contracts for both men and women. Development tours and placements for young players to help develop their games. There has also been a significant improvements in national facilities etc. Many counties have also invested in major ground redevelopments in recent times. Terestrial channels can/will not pay as much as Sky does for coverage so with less money coming in what gets cut? Probably grass roots funding for initiatives such as all stars cricket, chance to shine, local ECB development coachs etc. Overseas placements for young players or more likely hits to women's central/development contracts.
5) How many people would watch it? How many people actually watch every ball of a test match? Even people with access to Sky channels probably dip in and then catch up with the highlights. It is impractical for many people who are at work, or have other things to do to watch full games. There are so many other outlets when you can get updates and/or see highlights. Cricinfo gives ball by ball text coverage which is really good, the BBC website has live text coverage,which also shows major milestones and some highlights albiet a little while after they have happened. What happens when it is Sri Lanka touring, who are not the same draw as Australia or India, what will the viewing figures be like? If the likes of ITV/Channel 4/Channel 5 are not getting the viewing figures what happens to the coverage if they can lot justify their spending?
Terestrial coverage is a complex issue and I have yet to see answers regarding what should be shown, who will do it and what will be cut to cover the financial shortfall. I would like to hear some answers. | | | |
| Vitality Blast on 12:59 - Aug 27 with 1509 views | pioneer |
| Vitality Blast on 08:44 - Aug 27 by isitme |
The terestrial TV argument.
1) What matches would be shown? I would assume the advocates for would be looking at all England matches, would these include overseas tours and ICC tournaments where the rights are sold collectively, rather than for matches involving individual teams?
2) What terestrial channel would commit to the showing the matches? During the 2005 Ashes we had the Hollioakes scheduling issue and coverage was also interrupted for racing. What happens when play continues till 7 due to rain delays or a day nighter over runs? For all the complaints about them, the production values for Sky cricket are top notch. Would a terestrial channel be able to afford such a level of coverage. Bare in mind that the host broadcaster has to pay for the technology behind DRS.
3) What happens to the scraps? Sky show alot of cricket, from England internationals (men and women), T20 Blast (men and women), 50 over domestic cricket, the odd championship game at the business end of the seaon and a number of international series ot featuring England. The deal between the ECB and Sky includes the full package of coverage. Without the 'crown jewels' will the coverage of the 'lesser' game still exist to the same level, or at all? TV coverage of women's cricket could cease to exist.
4) What gets cut due to the financial shortfall? Sky have and do put a lot of money into the game which has seen the expansion of central contracts for both men and women. Development tours and placements for young players to help develop their games. There has also been a significant improvements in national facilities etc. Many counties have also invested in major ground redevelopments in recent times. Terestrial channels can/will not pay as much as Sky does for coverage so with less money coming in what gets cut? Probably grass roots funding for initiatives such as all stars cricket, chance to shine, local ECB development coachs etc. Overseas placements for young players or more likely hits to women's central/development contracts.
5) How many people would watch it? How many people actually watch every ball of a test match? Even people with access to Sky channels probably dip in and then catch up with the highlights. It is impractical for many people who are at work, or have other things to do to watch full games. There are so many other outlets when you can get updates and/or see highlights. Cricinfo gives ball by ball text coverage which is really good, the BBC website has live text coverage,which also shows major milestones and some highlights albiet a little while after they have happened. What happens when it is Sri Lanka touring, who are not the same draw as Australia or India, what will the viewing figures be like? If the likes of ITV/Channel 4/Channel 5 are not getting the viewing figures what happens to the coverage if they can lot justify their spending?
Terestrial coverage is a complex issue and I have yet to see answers regarding what should be shown, who will do it and what will be cut to cover the financial shortfall. I would like to hear some answers. |
Terrestial TV is so difficult, its amazing other countries manage it.
They also manage to avoid having test matches clash with the serious stages of their premier domestic competitions. | | | |
| Vitality Blast on 13:11 - Aug 27 with 1496 views | isitme |
| Vitality Blast on 12:59 - Aug 27 by pioneer |
Terrestial TV is so difficult, its amazing other countries manage it.
They also manage to avoid having test matches clash with the serious stages of their premier domestic competitions. |
What coverage do they have on terrestrial TV? What model or models should we adopt that work elsewhere? Please feel free to address any of the points made in my initial post. I would love some answers. It is too simplistic to just say 'let's take cricket from behind a paywall' without addressing the fundamental issues and coming up with a plan that would work. A working solution would be good, but I have yet to hear a working solution. What would you suggest?
The T20 knockout issue is a one off due to the hosting of the world cup as all the test matches have been pushed back. Also who was to know that Lancashire would qualifiy as one of the top two teams in the North group?
In Australia international matches often clash with the Big Bash - arguably their premier domestic competition. [Post edited 27 Aug 2019 13:14]
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| Vitality Blast on 13:15 - Aug 27 with 1488 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 12:59 - Aug 27 by pioneer |
Terrestial TV is so difficult, its amazing other countries manage it.
They also manage to avoid having test matches clash with the serious stages of their premier domestic competitions. |
The Test schedule and World Cup taking place in the same year is primarily dictated to by the ICC, who I don't think are able to come up with years of more than 365/366 days.
The Old Trafford Test taking place at the same time as Lancashire reaching the next round of the Vitality Blast AND being drawn at home is just an unfortunate quirk of the scheduling.
Remember the Vitality Blast has been nudged to later in the season because of the World Cup. Ordinarily, it would have been all over by now.
There simply aren't enough days in the calendar to fit everything in to everyone's satisfaction.
Isitme's terrestrial TV post was perfectly explained and elocuted; it's a shame you've been so dismissive of it without adding anything constructive.
What did you think of Ben Stokes' performance and the superb way England won the game? | |
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| Vitality Blast on 13:17 - Aug 27 with 1485 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 13:11 - Aug 27 by isitme |
What coverage do they have on terrestrial TV? What model or models should we adopt that work elsewhere? Please feel free to address any of the points made in my initial post. I would love some answers. It is too simplistic to just say 'let's take cricket from behind a paywall' without addressing the fundamental issues and coming up with a plan that would work. A working solution would be good, but I have yet to hear a working solution. What would you suggest?
The T20 knockout issue is a one off due to the hosting of the world cup as all the test matches have been pushed back. Also who was to know that Lancashire would qualifiy as one of the top two teams in the North group?
In Australia international matches often clash with the Big Bash - arguably their premier domestic competition. [Post edited 27 Aug 2019 13:14]
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Yeah, but other countries do EVERYTHING so much better. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 13:32 - Aug 27 with 1468 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 08:44 - Aug 27 by isitme |
The terestrial TV argument.
1) What matches would be shown? I would assume the advocates for would be looking at all England matches, would these include overseas tours and ICC tournaments where the rights are sold collectively, rather than for matches involving individual teams?
2) What terestrial channel would commit to the showing the matches? During the 2005 Ashes we had the Hollioakes scheduling issue and coverage was also interrupted for racing. What happens when play continues till 7 due to rain delays or a day nighter over runs? For all the complaints about them, the production values for Sky cricket are top notch. Would a terestrial channel be able to afford such a level of coverage. Bare in mind that the host broadcaster has to pay for the technology behind DRS.
3) What happens to the scraps? Sky show alot of cricket, from England internationals (men and women), T20 Blast (men and women), 50 over domestic cricket, the odd championship game at the business end of the seaon and a number of international series ot featuring England. The deal between the ECB and Sky includes the full package of coverage. Without the 'crown jewels' will the coverage of the 'lesser' game still exist to the same level, or at all? TV coverage of women's cricket could cease to exist.
4) What gets cut due to the financial shortfall? Sky have and do put a lot of money into the game which has seen the expansion of central contracts for both men and women. Development tours and placements for young players to help develop their games. There has also been a significant improvements in national facilities etc. Many counties have also invested in major ground redevelopments in recent times. Terestrial channels can/will not pay as much as Sky does for coverage so with less money coming in what gets cut? Probably grass roots funding for initiatives such as all stars cricket, chance to shine, local ECB development coachs etc. Overseas placements for young players or more likely hits to women's central/development contracts.
5) How many people would watch it? How many people actually watch every ball of a test match? Even people with access to Sky channels probably dip in and then catch up with the highlights. It is impractical for many people who are at work, or have other things to do to watch full games. There are so many other outlets when you can get updates and/or see highlights. Cricinfo gives ball by ball text coverage which is really good, the BBC website has live text coverage,which also shows major milestones and some highlights albiet a little while after they have happened. What happens when it is Sri Lanka touring, who are not the same draw as Australia or India, what will the viewing figures be like? If the likes of ITV/Channel 4/Channel 5 are not getting the viewing figures what happens to the coverage if they can lot justify their spending?
Terestrial coverage is a complex issue and I have yet to see answers regarding what should be shown, who will do it and what will be cut to cover the financial shortfall. I would like to hear some answers. |
Adam or Ben? | |
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| Vitality Blast on 13:36 - Aug 27 with 1458 views | isitme |
| Vitality Blast on 13:32 - Aug 27 by TVOS1907 |
Adam or Ben? |
Ben was the much better cricketer, such as shame what happened to him.
I still cannot believe that test matches started 30 minutes earlier for a whole summer to fit in a TV program! Even today they will not start earlier to make up overs due to lost play. | | | |
| Vitality Blast on 13:46 - Aug 27 with 1440 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 13:36 - Aug 27 by isitme |
Ben was the much better cricketer, such as shame what happened to him.
I still cannot believe that test matches started 30 minutes earlier for a whole summer to fit in a TV program! Even today they will not start earlier to make up overs due to lost play. |
It wouldn't happen in other countries. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 20:48 - Sep 4 with 1328 views | fitzochris |
Rain disrupting Lancs’ quarter final, too, now.
Wicket looks a mess, so Davies did well to score 80 odd.
Essex set 160 to win and are one wicket down already. Hopefully the rain fecks off. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 21:02 - Sep 4 with 1297 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 20:48 - Sep 4 by fitzochris |
Rain disrupting Lancs’ quarter final, too, now.
Wicket looks a mess, so Davies did well to score 80 odd.
Essex set 160 to win and are one wicket down already. Hopefully the rain fecks off. |
Sky's fault. | |
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| Vitality Blast on 21:07 - Sep 4 with 1290 views | D_Alien |
| Vitality Blast on 21:02 - Sep 4 by TVOS1907 |
Sky's fault. |
That argument might hold some water |  |
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| Vitality Blast on 21:12 - Sep 4 with 1267 views | 442Dale |
| Vitality Blast on 21:07 - Sep 4 by D_Alien |
That argument might hold some water |
IT WILL BE BECAUSE THAT’S WHERE RAIN COMES FROM.
Oh. Bugger. |  |
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| Vitality Blast on 21:34 - Sep 4 with 1217 views | DorsetDale |
Needed those 2 wickets! | |
| YOU do not have the right to give someone else permission to tell me what I can and can't do. |
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| Vitality Blast on 21:41 - Sep 4 with 1203 views | D_Alien |
Currently 10C in Chester-le-Street | |
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| Vitality Blast on 21:46 - Sep 4 with 1184 views | TVOS1907 |
| Vitality Blast on 21:41 - Sep 4 by D_Alien |
Currently 10C in Chester-le-Street |
10CC - "I don't like cricket" | |
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