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Is it true the Windies, didn't force the follow on, for financial reasons? I would take a 0-3, for 5-0 in the summer. Sorry to all the fans out there but your in the Caribbean, I'm freezing in England. Sympathy, is not the first thought that comes to mind.
They made the right decision not to enforce follow on. Finances would've played a part i'm sure, but in any case the wicket is suspected to break up on day 4 or 5 so makes sense to not bat on it last.
Carnage unfortunately - the Windies aren't a bad side though. So much for our strength in depth with the bat! Even if we get them out for 150 now we're too deep in the poo.
How many times in the last couple of years have we lost our first three wickets for less than 50 runs?
Not entirely excusing the performance (and well played Windies so far) but the schedules these days are ridiculous, teams just bounce from one series to the next and barely have time to prepare for local conditions. You wonder why there are so few away wins in cricket these days.
How many times in the last couple of years have we lost our first three wickets for less than 50 runs?
Not entirely excusing the performance (and well played Windies so far) but the schedules these days are ridiculous, teams just bounce from one series to the next and barely have time to prepare for local conditions. You wonder why there are so few away wins in cricket these days.
The Windies top order didn't look particularly comfortable either, so they just shut up shop and didn't play too many stupid shots. Ok we're probably a bit undercooked as well, but we didn't exactly give our oven time to warm up did we?
The Windies top order didn't look particularly comfortable either, so they just shut up shop and didn't play too many stupid shots. Ok we're probably a bit undercooked as well, but we didn't exactly give our oven time to warm up did we?
Absolutely. But this is a long-standing issue whether playing in England or overseas, for the most part the top order isn't doing its job.
How many times in the last couple of years have we lost our first three wickets for less than 50 runs?
Not entirely excusing the performance (and well played Windies so far) but the schedules these days are ridiculous, teams just bounce from one series to the next and barely have time to prepare for local conditions. You wonder why there are so few away wins in cricket these days.
We’ve had enough time to arrange a couple of extra friendly games before the series started.They didn’t go straight from Sri Lanka to Barbados.They were given too much time off since the last series finished. Add in the wrong team selection,and some seriously woeful shots and you have a recipe for disaster.
Thy picked the wrong team but as always seems to be the case these days, they are ridiculously under prepared,especially the batsmen, coming into the first game. Apparently the WI cricket board offered them a four day first class game but it was turned down in favour of two , two day knockabouts bowling and batting for a day in each. Madness.
I know tours these days aren't like years ago when you'd play at least four first class matches before the first test but surely it's not beyond the schedules to have had a couple of proper first class games against the island teams even if none were played between the tests which seems to be the case in the modern game
How many times in the last couple of years have we lost our first three wickets for less than 50 runs?
Not entirely excusing the performance (and well played Windies so far) but the schedules these days are ridiculous, teams just bounce from one series to the next and barely have time to prepare for local conditions. You wonder why there are so few away wins in cricket these days.
Top of the order has been really weak. Joe Root actually has been out of form for a while, too, other than a few decent performances
Fortunately England has a really strong tail, but the top of the order leaves a lot to be desired
Obviously the wrong selection, Broad should have been playing and we only really need one spinner, the WI side know the conditions and went with that selection. But that doesn't mean you get bowled out for 77 - the fact is that our batsmen struggle badly against proper pace bowling, and England do not have a decent really quick bowler.
Whatever happened to the Geoffrey Boycotts, Brian Close, even David Steele, players who could bore for England but keep you in a test when everything else was going wrong?
All I see now is them swinging it about like a rounders bat.
Whatever happened to the Geoffrey Boycotts, Brian Close, even David Steele, players who could bore for England but keep you in a test when everything else was going wrong?
All I see now is them swinging it about like a rounders bat.
You missed Chris Tavare off, but the clue was in the use of the phrase "bore for England" It was a sh!t spectacle and even I didn't bother watching as much as I used to back then.
You missed Chris Tavare off, but the clue was in the use of the phrase "bore for England" It was a sh!t spectacle and even I didn't bother watching as much as I used to back then.
The various pundits before this series was spouting off that England had won 8 of the last 9 tests that they had played and that we ought to win this series 3-0. What they omitted to say was that in all of those matches we won the toss and elected to bat first. Against India we were lucky to win 4-1, it could have been 3-2 to either side given the closeness of a few of the results. In Sri Lanka again we didn’t exactly thrash them in a couple of the tests and things did start to get to squeaky bum time. Had we lost half of those tosses and batted second I suspect that we would not have had an 8-1 record. Funnily enough we lost the toss in this match and together with leaving out a bowler who is as close as we can get to replicate a Windies quickie on their own turf we are getting what was probably coming and again showing that we probably are not the second best test team in the world of test mediocrity.
Whatever happened to the Geoffrey Boycotts, Brian Close, even David Steele, players who could bore for England but keep you in a test when everything else was going wrong?
All I see now is them swinging it about like a rounders bat.
Didn’t we lose 5-0 in that series in 1976?All they got were bruises.
The follow on is rarely enforced anywhere these days, I think the main reason (financesw perhaps help) seems to be to rest up the bowlers and also as said elsewhere the break up of the pitch later on, and it looks like the one in Barbados is.
Nothing better than proper tests but it's a shame based over 5 days has it's issues, also in England have had no free to air cricket in years.
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