| Ollie 09:58 - Mar 23 with 24189 views | Gloucs_R |
Where are we all at now with him?
He's playing a number of younger players
We're not getting relegated this season
He's got his own scouting team in place now
Ramsey has been brought into the first team set up
We've switched to 4-2-3-1 which works better for us
Do we stick with him for another year?
I've always wanted him to do well but he's pushed my over the egde this season a few times. Mainly with the whole 5 at the back system..and I don't care if Dave Mc says Ollie never wanted to play this system..he did, he stuck by it and we were mainly poor.
As long as he has an experienced coach in the dug out with him, I'd stick for the time being.
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| Ollie on 14:36 - Mar 23 with 2884 views | Dorse |
| Ollie on 12:19 - Mar 23 by kensalriser |
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| Ollie on 14:41 - Mar 23 with 2875 views | Dando |
If he doesn't tinker around and over complicate things, then hes absolutely fine to be in charge. Im glad hes finally seen sense to play people in their correct positions. Although he does deserve respect for changing this, it had been very clear to everyone else except him for months - so really hes only corrected something that he got wrong in the first place.
If he sticks to playing to our strengths, its a yes from me |  | | |
| Ollie on 14:44 - Mar 23 with 2864 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Ollie on 14:35 - Mar 23 by vegasranger |
We can't give him a new contract if we are to make progress. His plan for Fulham on Saturday didn't go well, having Manning and Pavel sitting deep in front of our full backs didn't work. He did change it and he deserved credit for that. Sticking with the 3-5-2 when it wasn't working. Slagging of the fans for leaving early. Finding a way to play the dreadful Washington.I don't want us going for the normal re-tread managers. Our thought process is so plodding. Let's look abroad and find someone fresh. |
I'd give him a new 3 year contract just to see the meltdown on Facacke and twitters |  |
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| Ollie on 15:07 - Mar 23 with 2821 views | peejaybee |
| Ollie on 13:06 - Mar 23 by kropotkin41 |
Keep him. Keep him for years. Keep him until he's had enough. Of course he need good coaches around him, and of course there will be times when we go on losing runs. Most likely we're a Championship outfit for the foreseeable, maybe there'll be relegation and maybe promotion, maybe both....... none of that matters more than stability and getting both the club and the team on a sound footing. Ollie is the man because he loves the club. If you want Ollie replaced you need to ask yourself 2 questions first:
1. Who would you rather have?
2. Who would actually come? |
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| Ollie on 15:33 - Mar 23 with 2780 views | rsonist |
The last month or so has done the general perception of him a power of good. The Manning, Wszolek and Furlong situations were serious black marks against him for a club in our predicament, where we simply have to develop players and any wastage is intolerable. (Which is not to say out-of-form players must play at all costs, but that there should be a clear framework for them to grow in, make mistakes, put them right instead of being cold shouldered for the next Messiah or shiny new tactical bodge job). Clarity at every level of the club is paramount, and at the moment it feels we have some.
As Norf said in his recent match report though, we said similar this time last year and Ollie got the tombola straight out again. So we'll see if he's learned his lessons. If not, and say we lose Onuoha and Robinson and replace poorly, then we might be in trouble next year - bear in mind the bottom sides are unusually underachieving this year and better sides will be coming up. |  | | |
| Ollie on 15:35 - Mar 23 with 2770 views | Northernr |
| Ollie on 15:33 - Mar 23 by rsonist |
The last month or so has done the general perception of him a power of good. The Manning, Wszolek and Furlong situations were serious black marks against him for a club in our predicament, where we simply have to develop players and any wastage is intolerable. (Which is not to say out-of-form players must play at all costs, but that there should be a clear framework for them to grow in, make mistakes, put them right instead of being cold shouldered for the next Messiah or shiny new tactical bodge job). Clarity at every level of the club is paramount, and at the moment it feels we have some.
As Norf said in his recent match report though, we said similar this time last year and Ollie got the tombola straight out again. So we'll see if he's learned his lessons. If not, and say we lose Onuoha and Robinson and replace poorly, then we might be in trouble next year - bear in mind the bottom sides are unusually underachieving this year and better sides will be coming up. |
Agree with all of this, and that Robinson and Onuoha issue is massive. Unless we can get Hall fit all our other centre backs are a bit rubbish. |  | | |
| Ollie on 16:45 - Mar 23 with 2714 views | ted_hendrix |
I'll give my opinion at the end of the season I reckon, with 8 games left there is a possibility that it could all go horribly wrong, equally it could improve results wise and we finish further up the table than where we finished last season.
So far so good at the moment, I hope it stays that way. |  |
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| Ollie on 16:50 - Mar 23 with 2707 views | qprd |
To me, the board has to be honest with itself and assess what the goalposts are for next year.
Are we planning to continue consolidating our position in the Championship, or are we planning on making a promotion push?
If the former, I have no issues with Ollie staying- he's succeeded in this capacity twice before. He's also shown a commitment to developing young players, which is a positive.
If the latter, the board has to let Ollie go because he's not the man to lead us to the playoff positions. All the teams at the top of the table have shown some element of consistency; consistency comes from having a solid spine and good defense that can keep clean sheets or only surrender a goal. In 1+ year with us, Ollie has proven he cant coach defenses to keep clean sheets. Despite having arguably the best shot stopper in the division and two really good centerbacks (and loads of experience behind them), we've kept very few clean sheets. We will never have the defensive consistency under Ollie to push for the playoffs. The pattern of a few great results followed by a four or five goal thrashing is not a recipe for promotion.
I am a patient QPR fan and can accept another year like this one, provided I see more of a commitment to developing the likes of Eze, Smyth and Chair.
The board needs to honestly assess what they want from next year and proceed accordingly. | | | |
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| Ollie on 16:54 - Mar 23 with 2698 views | RblockPrior |
| Ollie on 10:02 - Mar 23 by Northernr |
If you'd said at the start of the season:
- We will finish midtable, as close to the play offs as we are to the relegation zone points wise.
- We will never go closer than six points to the bottom three, and even that will only be for half a week.
- The accounts for last season will show another £10m coming off the wage bill and the losses halved again.
- Another load of top earners, including Caulker, will be shifted on suggesting next season's accounts will be more of the same.
- Our home form will be of play-off standard.
- We will win five and draw one of eight games against the top four.
- We will beat the league leaders twice in four days at Loftus Road, including mega-money bags Wolves.
- We will absolute thrash Aston Villa at Villa Park and spend the whole night winding up Big Racist John.
- Seven players from our U23s will get first team minutes, several of them will establish themselves as first team regulars, three of them will score winning goals on their full debuts. Eze and Smyth will breakthrough and impress.
- Scowen will turn out to be an absolute find.
- Freeman will continue his form from last season all the way through this.
Everybody. Everybody would have said 'that'll do for me'.
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When you put it like that, I am warming to him having another season. All jokes aside I think what we have achieved this year is above most fans expectations and for that Ollie deserves a bit of credit, we have a few great youngsters coming through to the first team and our midfield at times this year has looked incredible. We just need that goal poacher |  |
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| Ollie on 17:01 - Mar 23 with 2687 views | CamberleyR |
| Ollie on 14:35 - Mar 23 by vegasranger |
We can't give him a new contract if we are to make progress. His plan for Fulham on Saturday didn't go well, having Manning and Pavel sitting deep in front of our full backs didn't work. He did change it and he deserved credit for that. Sticking with the 3-5-2 when it wasn't working. Slagging of the fans for leaving early. Finding a way to play the dreadful Washington.I don't want us going for the normal re-tread managers. Our thought process is so plodding. Let's look abroad and find someone fresh. |
"Let's look abroad and find someone fresh."
Yeah, but as Clive has said, for every David Wagner there are 2-3 times as many more as unsuccessful like Pepe Mel /Alain Perrin/Remi Garde etc |  |
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| Ollie on 17:27 - Mar 23 with 2665 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Ollie on 14:35 - Mar 23 by vegasranger |
We can't give him a new contract if we are to make progress. His plan for Fulham on Saturday didn't go well, having Manning and Pavel sitting deep in front of our full backs didn't work. He did change it and he deserved credit for that. Sticking with the 3-5-2 when it wasn't working. Slagging of the fans for leaving early. Finding a way to play the dreadful Washington.I don't want us going for the normal re-tread managers. Our thought process is so plodding. Let's look abroad and find someone fresh. |
Completely unrealistic to think you'll ever get a manager that won't player a player that no one understands why they play. Every manager on earth does this.
Hasselbaink was a young, hungry foreign manager. While i thought he did ok i'm in a tiny minority. How do you think it went? |  |
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| Ollie on 18:14 - Mar 23 with 2621 views | daveB |
| Ollie on 14:27 - Mar 23 by PinnerPaul |
Like you I have never been convinced that 4 at the back solves all our problems - we DID have some good results and performances playing with 3 - however, ignoring the width issue - quite a few players look much more comfortable and are playing much better in the new system - All the defenders look so much better - with Furlong and Bidwell in particular improving a lot in the new system. |
It's certainly made the full backs more comfortable and got the best out of them, the downside is Freeman hasn't looked the same since the switch and is stuck out wide most of the game which takes away a lot of his game. |  | | |
| Ollie on 20:23 - Mar 23 with 2545 views | Kiwi76 |
| Ollie on 16:45 - Mar 23 by ted_hendrix |
I'll give my opinion at the end of the season I reckon, with 8 games left there is a possibility that it could all go horribly wrong, equally it could improve results wise and we finish further up the table than where we finished last season.
So far so good at the moment, I hope it stays that way. |
Agree with this - strong finish with Pav & youngsters in mix & i’d be more than satisfied with season.
Finish like we did last season different story. |  | | |
| Ollie on 01:18 - Mar 24 with 2460 views | WindsorHoopMan |
A mate of mine is very good friends with a QPR player. He went out with him last week and he said Ollie had fallen out with a player , had a bit of a row with him at training and the next morning the player's locker when he opened it was full of manure. The player went mental apparently, but Ollie denied it and everyone knew it was him | | | |
| Ollie on 01:23 - Mar 24 with 2458 views | timcocking |
| Ollie on 01:18 - Mar 24 by WindsorHoopMan |
A mate of mine is very good friends with a QPR player. He went out with him last week and he said Ollie had fallen out with a player , had a bit of a row with him at training and the next morning the player's locker when he opened it was full of manure. The player went mental apparently, but Ollie denied it and everyone knew it was him |
Is this a recent story or an old one? |  | | |
| Ollie on 01:28 - Mar 24 with 2458 views | timcocking |
I'll always support our managers and i love Ollie.
But if you're asking me do i think i could have picked a more effective lineup for nearly every game this season, i'd have to say yes. I think he gets a lot wrong. A few of those youngsters played like perhaps once, did alright, then disappeared. That's probably worse than not playing them. Round pegs in square holes should be a last resort, not plan A. To play Pavel down the left and Manning down the right? And persisting with the wrong formation all year. And the embarrassing interviews. So i'm not convinced really.
That said, i think we did well this year all things considered and i'm really enjoying having Ollie and Bircham in there, even if i think i could genuinely do better. So 100% he deserves to stay on, i'm just not convinced he's that competent.
Speaking of poor management - Southgate bringing England out in a back three, Kyle Walker playing as a central defender. Fcuking brilliant. We're certain to win the world cup now. [Post edited 24 Mar 2018 1:35]
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| Ollie on 01:42 - Mar 24 with 2452 views | PunteR |
Needs to finish this season well.. Balls up the next few matches then we'll have the same again next season. He needs to improve and tbf he is but he's only just turned a corner this season. I would like to see him build from here.
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| Ollie on 02:34 - Mar 24 with 2432 views | Boston |
| Ollie on 01:18 - Mar 24 by WindsorHoopMan |
A mate of mine is very good friends with a QPR player. He went out with him last week and he said Ollie had fallen out with a player , had a bit of a row with him at training and the next morning the player's locker when he opened it was full of manure. The player went mental apparently, but Ollie denied it and everyone knew it was him |
Your mate’s full of shit. [Post edited 24 Mar 2018 2:35]
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| Ollie on 02:46 - Mar 24 with 2428 views | Boston |
All things considered, I think we’re doing quite well. I also think we’re on the verge of doing better and that move is only likely to be hindered if we have an erratic manager. So, I hope the rest of the management team can keep our Olliegarch focused, patient and prudent. It would be preferable that success, if we have any, does come as a reward to Mr Holloway for all the obvious commitment he has. Again, not really a fan of Mr H but happy if he is responsible for footballing improvements. [Post edited 24 Mar 2018 2:48]
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| Ollie on 08:08 - Mar 24 with 2344 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Ollie on 01:18 - Mar 24 by WindsorHoopMan |
A mate of mine is very good friends with a QPR player. He went out with him last week and he said Ollie had fallen out with a player , had a bit of a row with him at training and the next morning the player's locker when he opened it was full of manure. The player went mental apparently, but Ollie denied it and everyone knew it was him |
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| Ollie on 08:12 - Mar 24 with 2339 views | Rangersw12 |
We badly need to go.into next season with a bit of momentum . One thing he needs to stop doing is trying to create some rivalry with Brentford and also stop slagging off the fans especially when we're down to the loyal hard-core
If we finish the season strongly then 100% he deserves to stay on but if we go on another bad run then I think it needs to be reassed | | | |
| Ollie on 08:36 - Mar 24 with 2326 views | Dorse |
| Ollie on 01:18 - Mar 24 by WindsorHoopMan |
A mate of mine is very good friends with a QPR player. He went out with him last week and he said Ollie had fallen out with a player , had a bit of a row with him at training and the next morning the player's locker when he opened it was full of manure. The player went mental apparently, but Ollie denied it and everyone knew it was him |
My mum's hairdresser's mate cleans for a bloke who sold a newspaper to a QPR player's cousin and he says that Holloway also has a packet of 'chewing gum' that snaps on your finger, a whoopee cushion and used Dr Crappalot's tea-bags on Chris Ramsay. He reckons that Ollie also put a flaming paper bag with a dog poo in it on Les Ferdinand's doorstep too.
The man is a menace. I blame the classic away kit. | |
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| Ollie on 09:36 - Mar 24 with 2276 views | qprphil |
He should absolutely stay. Worked wonders with what he has. The team is playing with confidence now, they actually believe they can win all the games. And I feel the same for the first time this season. Getting someone else in to tear it all apart is a bad move. | | | |
| Ollie on 12:42 - Mar 24 with 2214 views | Northernr |
| Ollie on 17:01 - Mar 23 by CamberleyR |
"Let's look abroad and find someone fresh."
Yeah, but as Clive has said, for every David Wagner there are 2-3 times as many more as unsuccessful like Pepe Mel /Alain Perrin/Remi Garde etc |
Indeed, Norwich were so taken by Wagner at Huddersfield that they poached Huddersfield's DOF for this season and told him to do it again, so he went to Borussia Dortmund and appointed their reserve team manager again just like Wagner, and they and he have been pretty rubbish all season on a big parachute payment. | | | |
| Ollie on 05:17 - Mar 25 with 2011 views | isawqpratwcity |
I'm still here, watching and waiting.
He isn't going to be sacked this summer, nor am I calling for it at the moment. It is also not the time to be giving him another contract as his current contract doesn't expire until summer 2019.
Let's wait and see... |  |
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