'Clueless' Ramsey 09:37 - Oct 26 with 5061 views | JordanFoster | Fantastic pieces on here from Antti and Clive, couldn't agree more with both. The thing that gets me the most about the whole Ramsey-out-brigade is the 'clueless' comments. On Saturday after the substitution, the hoards of fans off their seats screaming with such venom about how clueless he was. This is a guy that has worked in nearly every age group with England, before he came in at Spurs they had only really produced Ledley King. Now admittedly, not all of them still play for Spurs, but to see the likes of Harry Kane, Andros Townsend, Tom Carroll, Jake Livermore, Steven Caulker and Nabil Bentaleb. King and Bentaleb have both said he's one of the best coaches they've worked with in football. Most of the players brought through are internationals now let alone club regulars. He has a masters degree, holds his UEFA pro license along with 10 other diplomas and qualifications. He was a scout for Kevin Keegan when he was England manager and he's even one of the assessors to get your pro license coaching badge - in other words he sets the test! (He failed AVB at the first time of asking). I'm all for people having an opinion, it's what makes the game so good. But perhaps there's a way to voice opinions. For instance Fat Dave in R block, who used to get the odd run out for the Dog and Duck and has taken Bognor to the Champions League on Football Manager, screaming in anger about Luongo coming off instead of being dropped into a holding midfield role and therefore Ramsey is out of his depth. All this fantasy football and FIFA has gone to people's heads. Sometimes, you've got to think maybe the manager does know more. If he had taken Henry off instead and Rangers had won but conceded he would have been bollocked for that. No one, unless I'm mistaken has seen Luongo play a holding midfield role, in my eyes he isn't cut out to play in the Championship yet in that role. Just to go back on what others have said on JET, he was released from a L1 club, blew hot and cold etc. But he also wasn't a forward, certainly not a lone striker, the change in him since the start of the year is astonishing. He's the main focal point of attacks now, he works hard off the ball, wins his fair share in the air and can drop deep or pin defenders. Nowhere near enough credit has been given for this. Before his goal on Saturday Rangers were trudging along a bit going through the motions, but not for the first time this year a moment of individual genius (Phillips v Wolves, Chery v Bolton etc) has given Rangers momentum. Not many managers in the Championship encourage attacking players to play with such flair. [Post edited 26 Oct 2015 9:40]
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'Clueless' Ramsey on 20:01 - Oct 26 with 932 views | richpr | Please.... You'll be giving Ramsey the credit for bringing through Messi and Ronaldo next.. JET played well against MK Dons - fair play to him BUT lets get real - MK Dons are a poor outfit. Let's see us outplay a decent team like Derby, Middlesbro, Brighton or let's see us not get thrashed away from home to a decent team before lauding Mr Ramsey as the great manager of the 21st century. If the Rs played some good football there wouldn't be any abuse going around. Please give the majority some respect for recognising poor tactics, poor football and dreadful defending - they pay their money, they are entitled to vent their frustrations at Ramsey, Henry etc. IMO you are in the minority! | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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