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A Club United - Crowdfunding 12:14 - Jan 28 with 59948 viewsUpTheDaleNotForSale

So it looks like the Trust and Club need to raise c.£130K to fight the legal action being brought by Morton House.

Its a big number, so probably worth collating any information into one thread. We'll need the wider football family to support our club now more than ever.

Club Statement:
https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/january/clubunited_oldhamwalk/

Trust Statement:
https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/january/daletrust_crowdfundinglaunch/

Crowdfunding Link
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/keep-rochdale-afc-fan-owned/

#UpTheDaleNotForSale
[Post edited 28 Jan 2022 12:37]

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:12 - Jan 28 with 9676 viewsncfc_chalky

I wonder if Morton House will start their own fundraising page after seeing the excellent start to to his one?

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:25 - Jan 28 with 9644 viewsRAFCBLUE

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 13:46 - Jan 28 by Brierls

I’ve donated. Share the link far and wide. It’s a costly defence, but let’s turn the tables and once again show our collective strength.

Do Morton House MGT and First Form Construction Ltd (‘Morton House’) have the balls or means to take this all the way? We shall see, but the board of directors and Dale Trust aren’t going to buckle, and will be supported by Dale fans and football fans from across the country.


I think a lot Briels depends on if those who have launched the action stand back and look at it.

The sell from Bottomley was that this club could not survive. It was potless and on its knees financially.

The white knight investor was sought and the sell to us punters was we were getting a training ground. We needed a training ground. We must have a training ground.

It was all a distraction.

The punters though saw through it and voted accordingly. People were removed by shareholders and the club was put in safe hands again.

Then out of the blue in July 2021 came the hostile takeover. Not investors from an Emirate state, not Americans or Russians or Chinese investors..... it was a payroll company.

The EFL charge said payroll company under their regulations and began to investigate. The payroll company said they would "look to divest at the earliest opportunity"

The EFL investigation as of today has been live for 5 months.

The crowdfunding being spread far and wide puts pressure on the EFL and also the game to ask itself about how investment in football actually works.

If our 2,000 season ticketholders put in £5 per person each month this year that is £10,000 per month.

And that's before:
* Fans of other clubs
* Former players
* Corporate sponsors
* Secret millionaires

Any excess is donated to Rochdale AFC Football in the Community Trust, a registered charity, which carries out community work and charitable projects.

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:43 - Jan 28 with 9603 viewsncfc_chalky

I think that the point you make about season ticket holders (and others) being sought to put in £5 a month should be promoted RAFCBLUE,it's something that could take off and help with the costs significantly

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 14:35 - Jan 29 with 9085 viewsdeeplishblue

Could a story and links about this be put on the "news" page on this website. Don't know whether it's my settings but all the stories on that page are ancient. If there are any newbies visiting this site they might not know where to look for the link to donate.
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 11:19 - Jan 30 with 8586 viewswozzrafc

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:25 - Jan 28 by RAFCBLUE

I think a lot Briels depends on if those who have launched the action stand back and look at it.

The sell from Bottomley was that this club could not survive. It was potless and on its knees financially.

The white knight investor was sought and the sell to us punters was we were getting a training ground. We needed a training ground. We must have a training ground.

It was all a distraction.

The punters though saw through it and voted accordingly. People were removed by shareholders and the club was put in safe hands again.

Then out of the blue in July 2021 came the hostile takeover. Not investors from an Emirate state, not Americans or Russians or Chinese investors..... it was a payroll company.

The EFL charge said payroll company under their regulations and began to investigate. The payroll company said they would "look to divest at the earliest opportunity"

The EFL investigation as of today has been live for 5 months.

The crowdfunding being spread far and wide puts pressure on the EFL and also the game to ask itself about how investment in football actually works.

If our 2,000 season ticketholders put in £5 per person each month this year that is £10,000 per month.

And that's before:
* Fans of other clubs
* Former players
* Corporate sponsors
* Secret millionaires

Any excess is donated to Rochdale AFC Football in the Community Trust, a registered charity, which carries out community work and charitable projects.


The five pounds per month is a great point.

An advantage is the total keeps moving, that will creat momentum and therefore make it less likely to stall.

Yes it would be great if we could get 2000 people donating 60 quid each straight away but it is unlikely. This needs to be for the long haul
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 12:41 - Jan 30 with 8463 viewsUpTheDaleNotForSale



There is a great interview with Simon Gauge on BBC RM from yesterday about the legal action & crowd funding (33:20 onwards)... there are also good interviews with Stockdale & O'Connell in the ten minutes or so before.

We're sharing this as far and wide as we can on FB too, but it would be great if people could share the interview / link etc into other local community groups on FB, and keep sharing and tagging people on Twitter. Interest is growing and growing in the story, but with such a big target to hit the more people that know about it the better.

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 12:48 - Jan 30 with 8453 viewsJames1980

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 12:41 - Jan 30 by UpTheDaleNotForSale



There is a great interview with Simon Gauge on BBC RM from yesterday about the legal action & crowd funding (33:20 onwards)... there are also good interviews with Stockdale & O'Connell in the ten minutes or so before.

We're sharing this as far and wide as we can on FB too, but it would be great if people could share the interview / link etc into other local community groups on FB, and keep sharing and tagging people on Twitter. Interest is growing and growing in the story, but with such a big target to hit the more people that know about it the better.

#UpTheDaleNotForSale


Was asked the following question on Facebook

'Surely if the way they acquired shares is against EFL rules, they can be stripped of the shares?'

Put the following link as my response https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58292083

Please advise if there is a better/more appropriate response to that sort of question.
[Post edited 30 Jan 2022 13:02]

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 14:24 - Jan 30 with 8313 viewsNorthernDale

A great listen and Simon Gauge impresses me with his comments and actions.

I am a convinced advocate that we should adopt a model in England, in which EFL clubs and clubs in general should have 51% ownership by the fans.
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 19:46 - Jan 30 with 8046 viewsDale_Trust

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2022/01/use-to-easyfundraising-to-boost-crowdfunding

With the Trust seeking funds to help defend the legal case from Morton House, you can now raise money towards that using Easyfundraising.

Since our partnership with Easyfundraising began, we have raised over £5,000 through Dale supporters doing their online shopping using Easyfundraising as their starting point.

So with the Trust looking for donations to support the legal defence against Morton House, you can now support this through Easyfundraising. Our current total stands at £5,145.23 but from now on, every penny over that £5,000 total will go directly towards the legal defence against Morton House. This in itself means that we can add another £145.23 to the total.

But this is when you come in, whether you are a Trust member or not. All we want from you is to visit Easyfundraising before making any online purchase. Even better, download their browser plug in, and it will remind you if you are making any purchase from a website they partner with. They have hundreds of household names associated with them, and no one is asking you to make any purchase that you wouldn't ordinarily be making.

It pretty much covers all online purchases from hundreds of well known companies. Getting any insurance comparison website and taking out cover will bring us £15 a time, holidays are big winners for us with the percentage that it generates, and even if you are getting a takeway, we make money from their tie in with JustEat.

The beauty of this scheme is that it is the retailer who makes a donation back to us, and it does not cost you a penny more than it would have done in the first place. It literally is free money to us.

To date, we have just over 300 Dale supporters who have registered with Easyfundraising, but with close to 1300 members, we are still looking at pushing members to sign up. To show just what can be achieved, five Dale supporters alone have contributed close to £3,000 towards that figure. Furthermore, Newport County - a similar sized club to our own - haved raised nearly £23,000 from 500 members.

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2022/01/use-to-easyfundraising-to-boost-crowdfunding
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 20:16 - Jan 30 with 8014 viewsDaleiLama

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 19:46 - Jan 30 by Dale_Trust

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2022/01/use-to-easyfundraising-to-boost-crowdfunding

With the Trust seeking funds to help defend the legal case from Morton House, you can now raise money towards that using Easyfundraising.

Since our partnership with Easyfundraising began, we have raised over £5,000 through Dale supporters doing their online shopping using Easyfundraising as their starting point.

So with the Trust looking for donations to support the legal defence against Morton House, you can now support this through Easyfundraising. Our current total stands at £5,145.23 but from now on, every penny over that £5,000 total will go directly towards the legal defence against Morton House. This in itself means that we can add another £145.23 to the total.

But this is when you come in, whether you are a Trust member or not. All we want from you is to visit Easyfundraising before making any online purchase. Even better, download their browser plug in, and it will remind you if you are making any purchase from a website they partner with. They have hundreds of household names associated with them, and no one is asking you to make any purchase that you wouldn't ordinarily be making.

It pretty much covers all online purchases from hundreds of well known companies. Getting any insurance comparison website and taking out cover will bring us £15 a time, holidays are big winners for us with the percentage that it generates, and even if you are getting a takeway, we make money from their tie in with JustEat.

The beauty of this scheme is that it is the retailer who makes a donation back to us, and it does not cost you a penny more than it would have done in the first place. It literally is free money to us.

To date, we have just over 300 Dale supporters who have registered with Easyfundraising, but with close to 1300 members, we are still looking at pushing members to sign up. To show just what can be achieved, five Dale supporters alone have contributed close to £3,000 towards that figure. Furthermore, Newport County - a similar sized club to our own - haved raised nearly £23,000 from 500 members.

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2022/01/use-to-easyfundraising-to-boost-crowdfunding


Timely reminder and great idea - thanks

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:18 - Jan 30 with 7921 viewsjudd

Would any fans have an objection to cash collections at games being deposited into cylindrical objects with either an open top or
slotted lid and with a carrying handle?
Also perhaps bar top collection tins at the ground and in pubs throughout the borough?

#DalePail

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 09:36 - Jan 31 with 7644 views49thseason

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:18 - Jan 30 by judd

Would any fans have an objection to cash collections at games being deposited into cylindrical objects with either an open top or
slotted lid and with a carrying handle?
Also perhaps bar top collection tins at the ground and in pubs throughout the borough?

#DalePail


I think it has to be done, perhaps there should be a small flyer too explaining the situation so that its clear that the money is not for the club itself?....
11 home game remaining x 2000 x £1 £22,000 into the pot with virtually no pain especially for those who dont engage with social media. And maybe visiting fans will pitch in too?
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 09:50 - Jan 31 with 7630 viewsUpTheDaleNotForSale



For anybody wanting to share with their personal networks, we have created an easy to use QR code that links directly to the crowd funding page.

Every time somebody points their phone camera at the image it will link them straight to the campaign - a nice and easy way that everybody can raise some awareness.

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 13:54 - Jan 31 with 7384 viewsSandyman

#UTDNFS


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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:17 - Feb 2 with 6537 viewsMoonyDale

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:18 - Jan 30 by judd

Would any fans have an objection to cash collections at games being deposited into cylindrical objects with either an open top or
slotted lid and with a carrying handle?
Also perhaps bar top collection tins at the ground and in pubs throughout the borough?

#DalePail


Judd are there any plans to get a collection organised at Saturdays game?

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 22:33 - Feb 2 with 6454 viewsjudd

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 21:17 - Feb 2 by MoonyDale

Judd are there any plans to get a collection organised at Saturdays game?


Yes mate. Between 2 and 3 at all turnstiles.

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 09:20 - Feb 3 with 6228 viewsMoonyDale

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 22:33 - Feb 2 by judd

Yes mate. Between 2 and 3 at all turnstiles.


Cheers mate, if anyone has the old jar of loose change hanging around their house collecting dust then transfer the Dosh to a suitable container and deposit it in the respective containers at the turnstiles....Every little helps..

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 13:47 - Feb 3 with 6030 viewsDrigdale

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 09:20 - Feb 3 by MoonyDale

Cheers mate, if anyone has the old jar of loose change hanging around their house collecting dust then transfer the Dosh to a suitable container and deposit it in the respective containers at the turnstiles....Every little helps..


This is a great idea. Just scoured the house for loose change and surprised how much I actually have. This will all be put into the collection box tomorrow.
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 14:41 - Feb 3 with 5982 viewsdeeplishblue

Great - I have rather a large jar of copper that I wanted to bring up and didn't want to bring it with me if I couldn't get rid of it !

Will the amount raised tomorrow be added to the crowdjustice total so we can see the total money raised so far?

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 15:48 - Feb 3 with 5896 viewsHuddersdale1

Hopefully at every home game. I also have a jar full of copper and 5ps, can't make Saturday's game as self isolating but would intend to bring it to the next match.
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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 15:59 - Feb 3 with 5877 viewsjudd

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 14:41 - Feb 3 by deeplishblue

Great - I have rather a large jar of copper that I wanted to bring up and didn't want to bring it with me if I couldn't get rid of it !

Will the amount raised tomorrow be added to the crowdjustice total so we can see the total money raised so far?


If you don’t want to have to carry it up to the game on Saturday I’ll happily meet you on our local or call round for it?

The money will have to be counted and banked before it can be transferred to the Crowd funding appeal so will not be before Monday

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 20:06 - Feb 3 with 5601 viewsdeeplishblue

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 15:59 - Feb 3 by judd

If you don’t want to have to carry it up to the game on Saturday I’ll happily meet you on our local or call round for it?

The money will have to be counted and banked before it can be transferred to the Crowd funding appeal so will not be before Monday


Thanks Judd sent you a PM

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 07:22 - Feb 4 with 5362 viewsJames1980

How quickly could badges and stickers with Up The Dale Not For Sale get made up?

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 10:23 - Feb 4 with 5275 viewsjudd

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 07:22 - Feb 4 by James1980

How quickly could badges and stickers with Up The Dale Not For Sale get made up?


There is a badge supplier in place. Leave it with me

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A Club United - Crowdfunding on 10:47 - Feb 4 with 5244 viewsJames1980

A Club United - Crowdfunding on 10:23 - Feb 4 by judd

There is a badge supplier in place. Leave it with me


Excellent was thinking they would be a good way to raise awareness further, also potential conversation starters.

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