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Reply | Who is up for this?
at 11:18 5 Jan 2025
The club will get wind of this potentially happening and everyone will be searched and it will not happen....................but something like this does need to happen. |
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Thread | MOTD
at 23:18 4 Jan 2025
I dared to watch MOTD. Danny Murphy (who I am not a fan of and always has a downer on us even when we are ok) and Micah Richards assessment was so right. The players attitudes stank today. As both pundits said, they did not even do the basics which you should expect no matter who the manager or style or tactics.
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Reply | Russell Martin must feel as though he’s won the Euro Lottery
at 19:32 4 Jan 2025
The problem is, as it was a problem when they finally decided to dispose of Ralph is that, they do it without planning a proper replacement. After Ralph it was Jones and Selles. This time it is Juric. But how many of us really knew who Juric was? What evidence was there that he would be better than what we had? I don't blame Juric but suddenly the style is changed with players that had been drilled to play a certain way for ages at a time when the team is rock bottom.
The people running this club seem to be a mix of inept and incompetent.
The players don't seem to be able to play any style - is it simply they are not good enough or is it simply they have now given up. It is a complete and total mess and we know now that we will be the team with the lowest points total ever and possibly the worse goal difference. When it comes to making bad records we appear to be adept at it. |
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Reply | The problem is at the very top
at 17:50 4 Jan 2025
Why is there such a lack of resilience and fight in our players? You can blame the managers, the owners etc but look how easy Brentford scored early and continued to do so. Look how little we offered in midfield and going forward. Yes, the quality etc may not be there but you see lower league sides play against PL sides in the cups and show fight. Our players show none whatsoever - is that all the managers or is it that their morale is so low they just cannot lift themselves, or do they simply not care? |
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Thread | Feeling of desperation for our club.
at 17:32 4 Jan 2025
I have seen all sorts of highs and lows in my lifetime as a Saints fan but I am struggling to think of a time where I have felt as low and depressed about our team, our club and SFC as I do now. I don't think I even felt like this during the Branfoot era or the administration and points deduction period.
I really see no hope whatsover. The players have given up, if indeed they ever started, the morale and motivation is beyond rock bottom. We are clearly heading towards beating the Derby record - another sorry record to be apportioned to our club for our rivals etc to take years on the p*ss out of us.
I see no indication and have zero confidence in those supposedly managing and running the club and as long as they are in charge I cannot see anything changing/improving - but like looking for a shining white knight on the brow of a hill all is see is a grey sky. Marcus Liebherr did so much for us, sadly his daughter was not careful about who she handed the reigns to - first Gao and then this sorry lot.
I have never been in favour of it before because I always felt you had to get behind the team but I am not even sure the players give a jot for Saints or SFC. They show no fight, no resilience, no interest and therefore I think it needs a total boycott of a home game. I know that will be nigh on impossible to achieve but somehow we need to show enough is enough.
Quite where we go from here, I have not got a clue.
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Thread | Is there anything positive about SFC at the moment?
at 11:49 2 Jan 2025
As I was driving into work this morning, on the radio there was something about footballing sculptures and what is the best and worst...........surprise, surprise there was a resounding view that the initial sculpture of Ted Bates was considered the worst (though it has since been replaced).
The other day Danny Murphy (can't stand the guy and he hates us) was saying that Saints are the worse side since Derby to grace the PL.
We cannot get a win for love nor money.
We are languishing and firmly routed at the bottom.
We have the 2 x 9-0 record defeats
and it goes on and on. No one could ever accuse us Saints fans of picking an easy team to support and watch. I know we have had some good times in the past and I have been lucky enough to witness some of them, but I cannot recall a time where the brand and name of SFC seems as low as it is now........I am not even sure it was as low as this during the administration years?????? |
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Reply | 2024 - the year for Saints
at 09:40 31 Dec 2024
I recall during the back end of our season in the Championship that I did not want to go up. I enjoyed most of the championship season, but I also knew we did not have the team or the set up to compete in the PL. I think the majority of Saints fans knew that.
The Wembley day was fantastic, a memorable day and it was a case of wanting to win it but knowing that we were not ready for the next level.
The disappointment is not that we are in the relegation zone - I think most fans expected that we would be or that relegation would be the most likely outcome - I think the disappointment is that I did not think we would be as bad as are or have been this season and often against even the most mediocre of opposition. |
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Reply | Who is conducting transfer negotiations in January?
at 09:07 31 Dec 2024
I hope we don't buy anyone this January. This season is a lost cause now and we would be better keeping our money and starting to focus on the summer window and the next season. I won't object if we off-load a few in this window. |
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Reply | Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ?
at 19:04 29 Dec 2024
Don't disagree with that grumpy. He should have gone probably around the Leicester game but I think he deserved to be given the chance. I still believe that with this squad relegation was the likely outcome whoever was in charge but I did think we would have more points and be in the fight into the new year. |
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Reply | Anybody still of the opinion that it was all Russell Martin’s fault ?
at 18:51 29 Dec 2024
As I think I said in a previous thread regarding RM, I don't think it was all his fault at all and to be fair he should be respected for what he did post our last relegation and the promotion we achieved albeit via the back door of the play-offs. What RM has to accept responsibility for was his steadfast refusal to try any new tactics or adapt to the changing situation in games, opposition etc which ultimately led to his downfall.
I suppose what is now being shown is that even with a change of manager and change of tactics there is little likelihood that our fortunes are going to change. In fact, for the life of me I cannot even see where we will get our next point let alone a win. The squad is so far away from being able to compete at this level and in that respect you have to question SR because it was suicidal to go into the PL with this squad without purchasing some experience especially up front..
I cannot help but feel that the season is over/written off, if indeed it ever started. All that is left is whether Brentford can break their failure to win away this forthcoming weekend - you wouldn't bet against it, would you? After that, what will be the motivation for fans to turn up and what will be the motivation for the players to risk injuries etc for what is now an inevitable outcome. As regards RM or Juric - we will never know whether they would have been good enough if they had a squad that could compete at this level. |
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Reply | New Manager Bounce
at 17:15 29 Dec 2024
I was thinking the same Butty. Does it say more about our players and squad when they take over or do we choose the wrong managers? To be honest, I almost feel like giving up now because nothing this club seems to do in recent years feels for the long term betterment of the club, the team or the supporters. May be I am over- reacting but I just have no idea where we are going - obviously the championship, but with what??????
I am wondering what the motivation is to pay and attend any more matches this season as for the life of me I cannot see a win or even a draw from anywhere. Brentford have not won away yet..........would you bet against them not breaking that run next week?????? |
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Reply | Russell Martin goes but results wise nothing changes
at 17:44 26 Dec 2024
Was it all his fault? A good question -probably not, but it was his decision to play the tactic he did when clearly it was not working and at times it was suicidal. But, unlike some I don't have any angst towards RM. He was not a bad manager and certainly he deserves some respect for turning around a declining team post Jones and Selles into one that got promoted, albeit through the back door. His downfall was his ability to adjust tactics and to adapt and it was clear that nothing was going to change and for that, he ran out of time........regrettably.
Now RM has gone do I believe that we are going to walk into a land of milk and honey - No - and today proved that. We may change our tactics and approach and our manager but we don't have the players to compete at this level and we certainly don't have the strikers or midfield that can sting the opposition when we are on top. So, we will still get relegated. The only question is, will we get relegated with a fight or go down in a whimper????? Time will tell. |
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Reply | Southampton V West Ham United The Preview
at 10:53 26 Dec 2024
I would agree with you. We have been woeful at the back and front and not that great in midfield. But, I feel there is evidence we can improve at the back but I see little evidence of where the goals will come from up front to give is a chance and if you don't score there is always the likelihood that even a good defence will concede eventually.
Armstrong is simply not good enough at this level and haven't see enough of Tall Paul to judge properly but though he looks enthusiastic and tries I am not convinced. Cameron Archer has shown some nous in front of goal but he won't be enough.
Anyway, I have long accepted relegation and all I want is to see some fight, desire and not be easy for the opposition and some points on the board even if at the end it makes little difference. |
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Reply | Southampton At Fulham The Verdict
at 18:20 23 Dec 2024
I seem to recall that Shilton always used to kick the ball out wide. I don't think he could ever kick the ball straight. He was not a bad keeper though!!!!!!  |
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Reply | Southampton At Fulham The Verdict
at 11:18 23 Dec 2024
I have accepted relegation as the inevitably but what I want to see for the remainder of the season is some fight and to make it tougher for the opposition and go down with hope for the next season. Yesterday was a good point. Fulham probably just shaded it but a draw felt about right. One thing for certain is that Armstrong is not good enough at this level and that has proven for the second time and his profligacy in front of goal may cost us a win or two. I am not sure why at this level he hits everything but the area that will get him a goal - are the keepers at PL that much better? I guess they are.
Hopefully we will get a win on Boxing Day and give us something to hang onto for 2025. |
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Reply | New manager
at 20:56 21 Dec 2024
Completely agree Matt.
Whatever his record is, it is history and we have to give him chance and I hate to say but keep our expectations as low as they have been. Relegation is still the only realistic prospect and really it is a matter of whether we go down fighting and prepare for a good season next season. I suppose if we see no improvement over time then the judgement of SR will arise again but we need to get behind the team and hope the team get behind the manager and have the right attitude to show some fighting spirit. |
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Thread | Will today be the day?
at 08:07 20 Dec 2024
Will today be the day or will it just be imminent and if it is imminent how imminent is it imminent? |
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Reply | Looks like it's Carlos Corberan
at 15:58 19 Dec 2024
Not for me Grim. I don't see him as that much improvement on what we have had recently. I am happy to be proved wrong but on the play offs many WBA fans were unhappy with his style and his reluctance to adapt.........sound familiar??????? |
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Reply | RM gone….
at 08:28 16 Dec 2024
Are you sure? RM may have gone but do you trust our owners to get it right. It is not like this has not been coming so they should have been prepared for their next move. I am not sure I have that much faith in them.......we will see, I guess. |
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