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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans 15:10 - Sep 23 with 11473 viewssotonsuperhoop

On Saturday we left the New Forest at 10am and arrived at Yeovil Junction just on 12.40am after a good journey joining the train from London at Salisbury. As expected the train was full of Rangers the majority of which had drunk their fill by the time we got on but all in good spirits.

Our prearranged taxi at YJ was waiting and off to the Airfield Tavern we went. Never knew so many of our fans are called Mark, more than six taxi drivers all looking for Mark!! The pub was disappointing , not very busy but still a long wait to get served and the atmosphere subdued which only livened up when some guy walked through the bar in a Chelsea shirt and got what he deserved!

We walked up to the stadium arriving around 2.30pm and found nowhere to have a beer, no kiosk etc so tried our luck at the Yeovil beer tent just behind the main stand. Queued for two to three mins as by then it was one in, one out. Had to show our tickets only to be asked if we were local lads to which I replied ‘yes’ in my broadest Somerset accent. In we went and sank a few more pints before kick off, at £2.50 a pint, it would have been rude not to!

It was my lad’s first experience of terracing and he loved it, although I remember things were a lot more crowded back in the day, plenty of room yesterday.
The game as everyone by now will know was pretty dire from a Rangers point of view so I won’t go into that. I have a great video of the penalty from behind the goal that I’ll try to load up later.

After the game we made our way to The Arrow and found it to be welcoming with fans from both teams mixing and talking well and not too long a wait to get served. Good atmosphere with the odd chant and rendition of ‘we’re top of the league’ etc

Again our pre-arranged taxi picked us up dead on time at 6pm to take us back to YJ. Traffic was horrendous and we only just made it in time only for me to realise I’d left my phone in the cab. I ran back down the stairs and out of the station to find the taxi long gone. Phoned Radio cabs, on my son’s phone, and whilst waiting on the line their controller contacted the driver who confirmed he had it and would return to the station. We missed the train but got the phone back, so thanks to Radio Cabs.

By this time we had 35 mins to wait for the 7.30pm train and sat down and reflected on what a great time we’d had despite the footy being shi+te. Good craic in the pubs, especially after the game, and during the match. Where we stood the atmosphere was pretty good, we sang and had great friendly banter with the stewards and ourselves, a few ‘old school’ chants and of course plenty of ‘Dunne, Dunne, Dunne, Dunne, Richard Dunne, etc’

But this is when things turned a bit sour.

Whilst waiting on the platform we witnessed what I can only describe as my lowest point ever as a Rangers fan. I can put up with bad performances and results but not the kind of behaviour we saw yesterday by some of our so called loyal fans.

A female member of the station staff was abused to such an extent that she walked away from the situation only for one ‘fan’ to run after her to ‘have it out with her’ as he put it. Shouting abuse and swearing at a woman is bad enough but to publically verbally assault her sexually was outrageous and something I have never come across in all my 48 years. It made me ashamed to be associated with such people or should I say ‘fans’. Others in his party just watched, laughing at his antics and the situation.

My son, for what it’s worth, had the balls to confront him, only to be barraged with yet more abusive language, he stayed so calm and spoke so well without swearing, that this guy was left humiliated and deflated wandering off back to his mates with his tail between his legs. I didn’t need to step in before any of you ask, as I had faith in my son and his ability to handle the situation.

We seem to have a culture at QPR that when fans travel away it is of the utmost importance to get as pissed as possible to the extent that fans do not know what they are doing or how they are behaving. Travelling fans represent the clubs reputation and yesterday I was ashamed to be a QPR fan.

I am not a prude, I enjoy a drink with the best of them, but I know what my limit is and how far I can go before things could get out of hand. Sadly many of our travelling faithful do not. I witnessed Men who are old enough to know better, urinating in the street on the way to the ground, abusing staff and stewards at the stadium. With the fan at the station there were two or three youngsters in his party, what kind of example are we setting them? Not just as football fans but as people?
This kind of incident is not new to QPR, over my many years of following our team I had witnessed terrible behaviour not just directed to opposing fans but to our own supporters. Fighting before games between QPR fans is not new, I witnessed two fans getting stabbed inside Wembley at the Milk Cup final when Rangers fans turned on themselves. I thought I’d seen it all until yesterday
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Sooner or later we may find ourselves with reduced away allocations and you wouldn’t blame clubs for doing so
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To add to it all, whilst waiting on the platform just having got off the London bound train at Salisbury station, I heard a young lad say to his dad ‘why has that man on the train got a straw up his nose?’ That same man then went on to rub white powder across his upper teeth and gums in full view of everyone.

Is it a Rangers thing or do all clubs have fans like this?

Shame it was a bad end to a great day out, it won’t put me off following my team across the country, but I think it’s time some fans take a good hard look at themselves.
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:25 - Sep 24 with 2515 viewsKonk

When you’ve got about twenty flares on the go at a derby in Istanbul/Belgrade/Sofia on a dark winter’s day, it looks pretty good. When you’ve got one melon waving a flare around in bright sunshine at Selhurst, it looks pretty cack.

And sadly, there are ti ts following pretty much every club that can’t handle their drugs or drink. And the older I get, the less inclined I am to spend my time sat next to them on trains or in stadiums.

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:30 - Sep 24 with 2498 viewswood_hoop

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 11:32 - Sep 24 by Rangersw12

If some youngsters want to bring smoke bombs into the ground why does it bother people so much ?


Maybe I should bring me darts to the next game ?

For the reasons NorthernR has stated are why.....

Seems that we are returning to the 'dark days' of following your team, always been an under current of nastiness at some clubs but QPR in all the years I have supported them avoided the worst of it, not completley but enough that for a good few years it was relatively pleasent enough to attend matches without too many morons affecting the joy of following my club.

If this behavoir continues then the reputation of the supporters is very hard to repair and its bad enough the way we treated at some matches still now from the 'sins' of the past, being loud and proud is part of supporting your club, but doing things that sully the name of my club and fellow supporters is not something to take a pride in one iota.
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:42 - Sep 24 with 2458 viewsisawqpratwcity

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:09 - Sep 24 by Rangersw12

Don't start getting abusive on the net fella it's not big or clever how about trying to have an adult conversation or this that too difficult


Because you have no realistic expectation of what society expects. What will you allow? Incendiary devices? Small bombs?

Let's have a conversation on that.

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:54 - Sep 24 with 2436 viewsdaveB

In the Arrow on Saturday some fella let off a flare outside the pub, he then had to run to the toilet as it burnt his hand. I don't get the new fashion of these things, they look stupid
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:58 - Sep 24 with 2424 viewssmegma

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:10 - Sep 24 by Rangersw12

It seems to be the new fad and every club is doing it so don't really see an issue myself it will soon pass and then you can moan about something else eh


Every club isnt doing it, just those ones with fans with braincells in single figures.
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:11 - Sep 24 with 2373 viewsRangersw12

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:42 - Sep 24 by isawqpratwcity

Because you have no realistic expectation of what society expects. What will you allow? Incendiary devices? Small bombs?

Let's have a conversation on that.


But we're not talking about Incendiary devices or small bombs we're talking about kids with smoke flares/bombs FFS
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:19 - Sep 24 with 2353 viewsA40Bosh

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:11 - Sep 24 by Rangersw12

But we're not talking about Incendiary devices or small bombs we're talking about kids with smoke flares/bombs FFS


You say " FFS "

But, if the anecdote above is true about the bloke burning his hand on the flare and having to run off to the toilet to stick his hand under the cold water tap, then that alone is a perfectly valid reason for not letting them off in a crowded area.

I know in this country that things are deemed to be too PC and health and safety has gone too far, but sometimes sensible people make sensible decisions to safeguard the health and safety of people in their care and it is done for the right reasons and not just to spite those in society who don't like to be told what they can and cant do as paying customers.

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:21 - Sep 24 with 2345 viewsJeff

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:11 - Sep 24 by Rangersw12

But we're not talking about Incendiary devices or small bombs we're talking about kids with smoke flares/bombs FFS


the irony that you pub flares / BOMBS is not lost on me.

smoke bombs are an incendiary device. they're essentially the same as fireworks. they burn, they burnt the shirt of a QPR fan on Saturday. they also cause, unsurprisingly, smoke. which can be inhaled and is toxic.

Can we not knock it?

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:27 - Sep 24 with 2322 viewsisawqpratwcity

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:11 - Sep 24 by Rangersw12

But we're not talking about Incendiary devices or small bombs we're talking about kids with smoke flares/bombs FFS


Get the idea you have societal (at least on the basis of a club site) disapproval?

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:27 - Sep 24 with 2321 viewsYorkRanger

Maybe I'm getting old but why would you want to take a flare into a ground.

On the broader experience of the OP its a sad state of affairs. I primarily go to away games and have always thought, like most clubs, Rangers have more than their fair share of supporters who are complete w'nkers. Much of that is no doubt casued by alcohol or drugs but in the main the behaviour of away fans often criticised on here, can generally be seen by our fans on their travels but it is a minority and we just have to live with it.
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:36 - Sep 24 with 2289 viewswestberksr

not defending the flare tvvats in any way, but they even had them in the home end. Stood down there coughing my head off, at least you lot were uncovered so it dispersed quickly.

bad enough away knobs doing it, why would home do it too??

quite a few fans of all clubs and certainly ours are cretinous tvvats that individually wouldn't say boo to anyone. but 3 hours on a coach or train, half a dozen beers and a couple of toots of some shite chopped up charlie with a mob mentality and they all think they are hilarious/hard/above the law/entitled (delete as applicable, or just leave the lot up).

grade a knobends, the lot of them.
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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:49 - Sep 24 with 2253 viewstoboboly

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 12:13 - Sep 24 by RblockPrior

although a lil annoying doesnt cause any harm really, like mentioned just a lil phase that is going on


A Rangers fan was burnt at the Yeovil game.

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:52 - Sep 24 with 2238 viewsPommyhoop

Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 13:21 - Sep 24 by Jeff

the irony that you pub flares / BOMBS is not lost on me.

smoke bombs are an incendiary device. they're essentially the same as fireworks. they burn, they burnt the shirt of a QPR fan on Saturday. they also cause, unsurprisingly, smoke. which can be inhaled and is toxic.


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Maybe should be put in the Kenya thread.

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Pubs, clubs and travelling fans on 17:29 - Sep 24 with 2139 viewsjohann28

Re: flares. Friend of mine now has a very nasty permanent burn on his face from one of these things after going to watch a game in Italy a few years back. The docs said he was lucky he wasn't blinded. What needs to happen before someone realises that these bloody things are very dangerous in crowds?
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