| That M4 again! 19:56 - Dec 30 with 7529 views | jack2jack |
At least two or three more incidents near the llandarcy interchange today.
It's getting worse. What's to be done? |  | | |  |
| That M4 again! on 19:53 - Dec 31 with 1740 views | Dr_Winston |
Speed limits shouldn't be uniform. At busy times of the day a 50mph restriction on the M4 in certain places might make sense. When the roads are dead it doesn't.
We need to move away from blanket restrictions and be more sensible about it. The 20mph limit outside schools within Swansea is another perfect example. What purpose does that serve at 10 o'clock at night or in the middle of August? |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| That M4 again! on 21:49 - Dec 31 with 1670 views | majorraglan |
| That M4 again! on 19:53 - Dec 31 by Dr_Winston |
Speed limits shouldn't be uniform. At busy times of the day a 50mph restriction on the M4 in certain places might make sense. When the roads are dead it doesn't.
We need to move away from blanket restrictions and be more sensible about it. The 20mph limit outside schools within Swansea is another perfect example. What purpose does that serve at 10 o'clock at night or in the middle of August? |
You should put yourself forward for a post with some clout in WAG, you’d get plenty of votes with common sense policies like that. I also can’t understand why on earth the speed limit from Briton Ferry bridge through to Port Talbot is 50mph at 2am, it’s mental the amount of traffic on the road is negligible. Another thing that peeves me is the 40/50 mph limit they have on parts of the Port Talbot relief road, what incentive is there for people to use the road when it’s slower that the M4. By all means lower the speed limit in built up areas, but not on the outskirts.
The M4 is no longer fit for purpose, all that’s happening is they are tinkering with things because they don’t have the money to address the issues. We need a much better infrastructure. |  | | |
| That M4 again! on 21:58 - Dec 31 with 1658 views | Dr_Winston |
| That M4 again! on 21:49 - Dec 31 by majorraglan |
You should put yourself forward for a post with some clout in WAG, you’d get plenty of votes with common sense policies like that. I also can’t understand why on earth the speed limit from Briton Ferry bridge through to Port Talbot is 50mph at 2am, it’s mental the amount of traffic on the road is negligible. Another thing that peeves me is the 40/50 mph limit they have on parts of the Port Talbot relief road, what incentive is there for people to use the road when it’s slower that the M4. By all means lower the speed limit in built up areas, but not on the outskirts.
The M4 is no longer fit for purpose, all that’s happening is they are tinkering with things because they don’t have the money to address the issues. We need a much better infrastructure. |
The A4067 between Landore and Ynysforgan is another one. Dual Carriageway all the way yet a 50mph limit all day. Then it drops to single lane up the valley but the speed limit increases?
It's just stupid.
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| That M4 again! on 10:11 - Jan 1 with 1551 views | Catullus |
How about this Doc, variable speed limits and fit transponders/telematics onto all new cars that automatically set off an in car warning of the speed limit and if you exceed the limit by 5mph or more automatically informs the police/DVLA.
While I'm there, all new cars have dash cams fitted (tamper proof) that the police and insurance companies can access.
It'll never happen, well not in my lifetime but have we reached an age where such draconian measures need to be considered? | |
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| That M4 again! on 10:32 - Jan 1 with 1532 views | Dr_Winston |
| That M4 again! on 10:11 - Jan 1 by Catullus |
How about this Doc, variable speed limits and fit transponders/telematics onto all new cars that automatically set off an in car warning of the speed limit and if you exceed the limit by 5mph or more automatically informs the police/DVLA.
While I'm there, all new cars have dash cams fitted (tamper proof) that the police and insurance companies can access.
It'll never happen, well not in my lifetime but have we reached an age where such draconian measures need to be considered? |
The EU are well ahead of you. Automatic speed limiters become law in 2022.
https://www.driving.co.uk/news/automatic-speed-limiters-new-cars-approved-europe
Which will of course either cause a slump in new car sales or a surge in devices or services that neutralise the things, unless testing them becomes part of the MOT.
Crazy thing is British roads are already pretty safe as a rule compared to other countries. If anything the speed limits on motorways should be being revised up, not down. Most of the figures given in the highway code for stuff like stopping distance is woefully out of date and inaccurate. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| That M4 again! on 10:56 - Jan 1 with 1507 views | dickythorpe |
It's crying out for public transport to be really seriously funded, developed and upgraded
It is 2020 and the trains and buses are worse than 20 years ago |  | | |
| That M4 again! on 11:02 - Jan 1 with 1503 views | Catullus |
I think the UK road safety record is going to get worse. As the number of vehicles increases, driving gets worse and roads aren't upgraded. It's a rubbish situation, this country doesn't plan ahead taking into account rising numbers. They draw up plans for the way things are predicted to be in 10 years and usually, by the time those plans are carried out they are already out of date.
Improving the railways and getting freight off the motorways would be a good step. Getting more police on the streets would also help. People do stupid schit largely because they believe they'll get away with it. When you do that stupid schit in a car doing 70 though, one day you won't just not get away with it, you'll probably kill someone. | |
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| That M4 again! on 11:38 - Jan 1 with 1477 views | controversial_jack |
| That M4 again! on 10:56 - Jan 1 by dickythorpe |
It's crying out for public transport to be really seriously funded, developed and upgraded
It is 2020 and the trains and buses are worse than 20 years ago |
The great British public just voted against that | | | |
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| That M4 again! on 12:21 - Jan 1 with 1447 views | Jackfath |
| That M4 again! on 21:58 - Dec 31 by Dr_Winston |
The A4067 between Landore and Ynysforgan is another one. Dual Carriageway all the way yet a 50mph limit all day. Then it drops to single lane up the valley but the speed limit increases?
It's just stupid.
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Not stupid. It's to do with built up areas. There would have to be huge, unsightly fencing all along the edges if the speed limit was to be increased. |  |
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| That M4 again! on 17:38 - Jan 1 with 1368 views | Catullus |
| That M4 again! on 11:38 - Jan 1 by controversial_jack |
The great British public just voted against that |
No we didn't. The Tories promised to invest in public services and infrastructure. Of course it remains to be seen how much of the manifesto is complete and utter BS.
We'd be in the same situation with Labour, it's always wait and see. At every election I have lived through political parties have told us what we want to hear with little intention of sticking 100% to their promises. | |
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| That M4 again! on 19:23 - Jan 1 with 1332 views | controversial_jack |
| That M4 again! on 17:38 - Jan 1 by Catullus |
No we didn't. The Tories promised to invest in public services and infrastructure. Of course it remains to be seen how much of the manifesto is complete and utter BS.
We'd be in the same situation with Labour, it's always wait and see. At every election I have lived through political parties have told us what we want to hear with little intention of sticking 100% to their promises. |
Labour were quite clear in their manifesto about nationalising the railways etc | | | |
| That M4 again! on 19:30 - Jan 1 with 1319 views | Catullus |
| That M4 again! on 19:23 - Jan 1 by controversial_jack |
Labour were quite clear in their manifesto about nationalising the railways etc |
Renationalising the railways doesn't guarantee investment and upgrading though. Would there be any money left for that after buying them back? Or maybe Labour would simply have borrowed another few billion?
Isn't there enough debt in the world though?
https://www.ft.com/content/938642f6-21bd-11ea-b8a1-584213ee7b2b
I know we're not an emerging market but 55 trillion, eck!! | |
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| That M4 again! on 15:41 - Jan 2 with 1228 views | controversial_jack |
| That M4 again! on 19:30 - Jan 1 by Catullus |
Renationalising the railways doesn't guarantee investment and upgrading though. Would there be any money left for that after buying them back? Or maybe Labour would simply have borrowed another few billion?
Isn't there enough debt in the world though?
https://www.ft.com/content/938642f6-21bd-11ea-b8a1-584213ee7b2b
I know we're not an emerging market but 55 trillion, eck!! |
They wouldn't have to buy them back just not renew the franchises and many other major European countries seem to invest in their railways.Have you been to German or the Netherlands lately, it's a different world. | | | |
| That M4 again! on 19:05 - Jan 2 with 1183 views | majorraglan |
| That M4 again! on 15:41 - Jan 2 by controversial_jack |
They wouldn't have to buy them back just not renew the franchises and many other major European countries seem to invest in their railways.Have you been to German or the Netherlands lately, it's a different world. |
Fair point. Seems mental that we’d spend tens of billions on HS2 and let someone else make a profit on it. Appoint sensible people to run the railway so that it operates profitably and reinvest the profit in improving services. Could be a winner.  | | | |
| That M4 again! on 13:47 - Jan 3 with 1084 views | Catullus |
| That M4 again! on 15:41 - Jan 2 by controversial_jack |
They wouldn't have to buy them back just not renew the franchises and many other major European countries seem to invest in their railways.Have you been to German or the Netherlands lately, it's a different world. |
Yes and that means waiting for the franchise to run out which then means no investment until the franchise runs out. Some of those franchises go beyond the next election so even if Labour won, if they waited til the deals ran out most of the rail services wouldn't be renationalised meaning Labour would have needed another victory, that or borrow and buy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_operating_trains_in_the_United_K
I fail to see what other European countries have done has any bearing on what our government does or will do though. I mean, it's obvious we need the investment and upgrades but just because Germany and the Netherlands do something, it doesn't mean we will.
With any luck (so probably not) Bojo will invest in our country and halt the movement of wealth from the public purse the private profiteering. Again, I won't hold my breath. | |
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| That M4 again! on 17:27 - Jan 3 with 1054 views | Glastonbury |
Had to undertake several cars again today. It's just not on. Middle lane drivers are the bloody worst | | | |
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