| Dutch election 10:49 - Mar 16 with 3912 views | controversial_jack |
Well done to the Dutch for rejecting the far right hatred party. That's the Dutch and the Austrians, I just hope the French show the same common sense that us and the Americans have lacked recently. |  | | |  |
| Dutch election on 18:08 - Mar 17 with 814 views | blueytheblue |
| Dutch election on 17:16 - Mar 17 by exiledclaseboy |
You're a LbDem member aren't you? Did you miss 2010-2015 when "your party" was in power as part of the coalition? That's quite some oversight. They had some Secretaries of State and at least one minister in every department. Got quite a bit of their manifesto on the statute books as well in one form or another and did a decent job of reigning in some of the Tory excesses during that period. I'm surprised you're so dismissive of it. |
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Don't diss the Lib Dems.
They did a fantastic job making the coffees and doing the sandwich runs. | |
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| Dutch election on 18:16 - Mar 17 with 808 views | Kerouac |
| Dutch election on 17:22 - Mar 17 by longlostjack |
What a clown he/she is ! [Post edited 17 Mar 2017 17:23]
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I guess you're one of them "attention seeking saddos". |  |
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| Dutch election on 18:24 - Mar 17 with 799 views | rock1n |
I disagree with ECB I've always found it perplexing that people refer to lib dems are centre left, at heart they're the most pro market party, pro liberalism, small State because they have a wet far image people see them as left wing.
What we're seeing now is politics becoming more normal again, tories more right wing Nationalistic with more protectionist policies. Labour back to tax, spend, borrow Nationalise and lib dems back to pro market, pro business, wet fart socially.
I'm a liberal but they don't have the balls to cut their soft as sh1t element. We need a pro business, true liberal party i.e. let people smoke in pubs again, more free speech, less Nanny state etc. Not the two extremes of left/right. [Post edited 17 Mar 2017 18:24]
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| Dutch election on 18:35 - Mar 17 with 778 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Dutch election on 18:24 - Mar 17 by rock1n |
I disagree with ECB I've always found it perplexing that people refer to lib dems are centre left, at heart they're the most pro market party, pro liberalism, small State because they have a wet far image people see them as left wing.
What we're seeing now is politics becoming more normal again, tories more right wing Nationalistic with more protectionist policies. Labour back to tax, spend, borrow Nationalise and lib dems back to pro market, pro business, wet fart socially.
I'm a liberal but they don't have the balls to cut their soft as sh1t element. We need a pro business, true liberal party i.e. let people smoke in pubs again, more free speech, less Nanny state etc. Not the two extremes of left/right. [Post edited 17 Mar 2017 18:24]
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Liberal without the being liberal bit then.
What you are talking about is libertarianism. | | | |
| Dutch election on 18:47 - Mar 17 with 766 views | rock1n |
| Dutch election on 18:35 - Mar 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Liberal without the being liberal bit then.
What you are talking about is libertarianism. |
I'm advocating classical liberalism is pro market, pro individual liberalism.
Nick Clegg for all his critics was taking the liberals in the right direction | |
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| Dutch election on 18:51 - Mar 17 with 762 views | rock1n |
On a side point, looks like Europe sensibly is not following our lead, I expect centrist to win in France.
They'll be laughing at us soon and await the usual suspects blaming immigrants and Juncker. | |
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| Dutch election on 18:57 - Mar 17 with 759 views | longlostjack |
| Dutch election on 18:16 - Mar 17 by Kerouac |
I guess you're one of them "attention seeking saddos". |
Yep you really are perceptive. Doesn't suprise me for a minute given you're a Liberal. I was in the Lib Dems for a while and to be honest I enjoyed the lentils and quiche. I was also one for the women in those days and didn't have to do much to attract their attention. Was really successful until I got a fungal infection on my big toe and had to start wearing socks with my sandals. The final nail in the coffin for getting my leg over with like minded Liberals was when that bloke Clegg came along, not sure whether you remember him, bit of a modern business guy, no tie and all that, wife foreign. You know what I mean? To cut a long story short got pissed off and I'm looking for a new Party - any suggestions? |  |
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| Dutch election on 19:14 - Mar 17 with 749 views | Kerouac |
| Dutch election on 18:51 - Mar 17 by rock1n |
On a side point, looks like Europe sensibly is not following our lead, I expect centrist to win in France.
They'll be laughing at us soon and await the usual suspects blaming immigrants and Juncker. |
You are a conservative?
So the Netherlands voted in their equivalent of the Conservatives which is exactly the same as here right?
...and the French would have done the same thing if Fillon hadn't been knobbled.
Before the Fillon scandal the next president of France would have most likely have been a "Thatcherite".
The most likely result now is that the majority will club together to keep Le Pen out and Macron will benefit by virtue of being the other candidate.
Suspicious if you ask me.
If by "following our lead" you meant departing the EU I would argue that the break up of the EU train has been set in motion and it will play out in due course. | |
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| Dutch election on 19:19 - Mar 17 with 740 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Dutch election on 18:24 - Mar 17 by rock1n |
I disagree with ECB I've always found it perplexing that people refer to lib dems are centre left, at heart they're the most pro market party, pro liberalism, small State because they have a wet far image people see them as left wing.
What we're seeing now is politics becoming more normal again, tories more right wing Nationalistic with more protectionist policies. Labour back to tax, spend, borrow Nationalise and lib dems back to pro market, pro business, wet fart socially.
I'm a liberal but they don't have the balls to cut their soft as sh1t element. We need a pro business, true liberal party i.e. let people smoke in pubs again, more free speech, less Nanny state etc. Not the two extremes of left/right. [Post edited 17 Mar 2017 18:24]
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If you look at LibDem manifestos over the last 20 years they've often been further to the left of Labour in many ways. I've voted for them on many occasions, not necessarily because they were left leaning but because they held positions on important issues that I fundamentally agreed with. Not everything of course, but over the last two decades I've often found that the Libdems' views coalesced with my own more than Labour or any other party. [Post edited 17 Mar 2017 19:25]
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| Dutch election on 19:20 - Mar 17 with 739 views | controversial_jack |
| Dutch election on 18:35 - Mar 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Liberal without the being liberal bit then.
What you are talking about is libertarianism. |
Neo liberalism, if we are back to labels again | | | |
| Dutch election on 19:23 - Mar 17 with 735 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Dutch election on 18:08 - Mar 17 by blueytheblue |
Hey
Don't diss the Lib Dems.
They did a fantastic job making the coffees and doing the sandwich runs. |
A common misconception. They were actually pretty influential during the coalition years. Where they failed was in their naïveté in allowing themselves to be played so easily and regularly by the Tories. What's happened to them is a crying shame for British politics and has left those of us who don't relate to either Labour or the Tories without a credible alternative. | |
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| Dutch election on 19:27 - Mar 17 with 728 views | blueytheblue |
| Dutch election on 19:23 - Mar 17 by exiledclaseboy |
A common misconception. They were actually pretty influential during the coalition years. Where they failed was in their naïveté in allowing themselves to be played so easily and regularly by the Tories. What's happened to them is a crying shame for British politics and has left those of us who don't relate to either Labour or the Tories without a credible alternative. |
I'll not disagree Lib Dems had some ideas I'd have tended to not be too opposed to.
Naive to the extreme however. I suspect it was more the case Clegg et al thought they were the dog's bollocks, had the keys to the kingdom. In reality, they were very much the minor partner.
I'd tend to agree an alternative is needed, not sure Lib Dems are any more credible than anyone else. | |
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| Dutch election on 19:46 - Mar 17 with 714 views | Kerouac |
| Dutch election on 18:57 - Mar 17 by longlostjack |
Yep you really are perceptive. Doesn't suprise me for a minute given you're a Liberal. I was in the Lib Dems for a while and to be honest I enjoyed the lentils and quiche. I was also one for the women in those days and didn't have to do much to attract their attention. Was really successful until I got a fungal infection on my big toe and had to start wearing socks with my sandals. The final nail in the coffin for getting my leg over with like minded Liberals was when that bloke Clegg came along, not sure whether you remember him, bit of a modern business guy, no tie and all that, wife foreign. You know what I mean? To cut a long story short got pissed off and I'm looking for a new Party - any suggestions? |
How about a Bukkake party?
I've heard their good...don't swallow mind, you don't know where they've been. | |
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| Dutch election on 22:19 - Mar 17 with 667 views | longlostjack |
| Dutch election on 19:46 - Mar 17 by Kerouac |
How about a Bukkake party?
I've heard their good...don't swallow mind, you don't know where they've been. |
No need to waste it on me "Liberal" boy.  | |
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| Dutch election on 01:17 - Mar 18 with 617 views | Loyal |
| Dutch election on 19:20 - Mar 16 by Gravy |
Blimey, the Dutch motherland used to be a shining light of tolerance, welcoming open arms and liberalism...
What could have possibly happened over the last 30 years to change that so dramatically?
Edammed if I know eh? 🌈💕👳ðŸ½ðŸ’£ |
Even more tolerant what with everyone's politics now being accepted. 👠|  |
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