| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 08:56 - Oct 26 with 6871 views | Pommyhoop |
Nope don't give a toss but everyone loves a guessing game.
I'm having a wild guess at Jamie Vardy.. |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 08:59 - Oct 26 with 6856 views | WokingR |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 08:56 - Oct 26 by Pommyhoop |
Nope don't give a toss but everyone loves a guessing game.
I'm having a wild guess at Jamie Vardy.. |
Nah, got to be Chelsea or Norwich |  | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:00 - Oct 26 with 6847 views | johncharles |
Usual rubbishy article from the Fail. " The stigma has completely gone ......." So where's the story ? |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:06 - Oct 26 with 6819 views | JAPRANGERS |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:00 - Oct 26 by johncharles |
Usual rubbishy article from the Fail. " The stigma has completely gone ......." So where's the story ? |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out on 09:17 - Oct 26 with 6791 views | Dorse |
I honestly don't care a bit about a player's sexual orientation. Most people don't but you know that the papers will mention it every time they write about them!
They already include things like the player's age and nationality / international status. So...
'Guatamalan international Verruciho, 26, scored a belter...' becomes 'Openly gay Guatamalan international Verruciho, 26, scored a belter...' They wouldn't write 'Single heterosexual Guatamalan...' (you get the idea)
Most people have no problem with sexuality but the problem arises when those people don't speak up. Homophobia is alive and well and you can see it every day in schools up and down the country. A few years ago, well known fat kunt Chris Moyles, defended using the term 'gay' on air by saying it is a synonym for 'bad'. Personally, I feel that he is using the language emotively: the language has no connection to the object, rather, it is descriptive of how one feels about it. It's what Ayer describes as 'Boo Hurrah'. There will always be people whose understanding of homosexuality is limited to 'it's not normal', so the language will persist. And every time it is used it creates a mindset prejudicial to the individual or player.
Sorry. Soap box. I'll stop there. |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:37 - Oct 26 with 6747 views | TheBlob |
I draw the line at being called "Openly Welsh"
May I state firmly that I am not,nor have ever been Welsh.
Any rumours to the contrary will be met with a letter from my solicitors,
Jones,Jones,Jones and Levine. [Post edited 26 Oct 2015 9:43]
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:56 - Oct 26 with 6693 views | TheBlob |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:50 - Oct 26 by ade_qpr |
Would that be Tom Jones? If so does he always sing to you as "Green Green Grass of Home"  |
He was triplets actually.
Look you.
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 10:01 - Oct 26 with 6677 views | ade_qpr |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 09:56 - Oct 26 by TheBlob |
He was triplets actually.
Look you.
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 10:13 - Oct 26 with 6645 views | LadbrokeR |
I listened to a piece on talk radio about this and there was a female agent commenting on the likelihood of 2 premiership players one an international coming out. I believe that a statement had been issued saying that they were going to come out. |  | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 10:23 - Oct 26 with 6628 views | daveB |
Why do they need to come out, can't they just keep their privater lives private |  | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 10:24 - Oct 26 with 6627 views | WokingR |
Unless, of course it turns out to be John Terry
Then I will be p*ssing myself so much that I will be in danger of drowning | | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:12 - Oct 26 with 6571 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 10:23 - Oct 26 by daveB |
Why do they need to come out, can't they just keep their privater lives private |
isn't it their choice either way, dave? |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:19 - Oct 26 with 6555 views | NW5Hoop |
If there was no stigma, if football were free of prejudice, they wouldn't need to "come out"; they'd never have had to keep it secret in the first place. That's why it's still a big deal. | | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:25 - Oct 26 with 6534 views | robith |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:19 - Oct 26 by NW5Hoop |
If there was no stigma, if football were free of prejudice, they wouldn't need to "come out"; they'd never have had to keep it secret in the first place. That's why it's still a big deal. |
I wrote a big reply but couldn't be bothered with the grief, so just yeah this.
I've got gay friends who still get attacked in the street, football fans who are terrified of going to games because of threats they've had at them. So yeah, ^what this guy said |  | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:38 - Oct 26 with 6502 views | bosh67 |
It's ridiculous. Straight, gay, bi. What difference does it make to a footballer. It's 2015 time tio let people be who they are.
BTW - there are no gay players at Norwich as most are married to their own sisters.  |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:39 - Oct 26 with 6500 views | johncharles |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:19 - Oct 26 by NW5Hoop |
If there was no stigma, if football were free of prejudice, they wouldn't need to "come out"; they'd never have had to keep it secret in the first place. That's why it's still a big deal. |
But it says in the Fail's own article that the stigma had completely gone so it must be true. | |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:42 - Oct 26 with 6486 views | paesanu |
All well and good to say who cares and what not. The issue is that when it comes to a corner kick or a throw-in, even at Loftus Rd there's large sections of tw4tty fans that will be screaming 'c0cksuckerrrrr' thinking it's hilarious. It wouldn't be banter either, it'll be genuine malice for the player. |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 12:24 - Oct 26 with 6418 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Personally, for the good of football, these purported gay footballers should stay firmly in the closet, until such time as Joseph Barton has retired. One can only but imagine the height of his horse from which he will be tweeting, if and when anyone comes out from within the game of football.
Frankly, the surprise some quarters exhibit on the matter of homosexuality in football, is nothing short of embarrassing. To assume in the history of football up to the present day, that there haven't or isn't any gay footballers, is stupidity in itself. Crickey, the Mail of all papers, probably has more gay chums in parliament, the clergy and the royal family and doesn't see fit too make too much of a hullabaloo about it these days, so why get all fidgety about football?
That said, and if I am to allow myself a teeny weeny bit of homophobia, when the great outings start, could the gays leave their whistles at home? One thing having pride etc., but no need to rock up to games with the gay equivalent of the vuvuzela to bust our ear drums.
Other than that, if there are two players on the cusp of outing themselves (probably as someone pointed out above, before some rag does it) then respect to them as I am sure they are going to endure some heavy duty crap for it. [Post edited 26 Oct 2015 12:25]
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 12:27 - Oct 26 with 6408 views | daveB |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 11:12 - Oct 26 by Antti_Heinola |
isn't it their choice either way, dave? |
yeah of course it is but I don't understand the pressure being put on gay footballers to come out. | | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 13:01 - Oct 26 with 6349 views | danehoop |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 10:13 - Oct 26 by LadbrokeR |
I listened to a piece on talk radio about this and there was a female agent commenting on the likelihood of 2 premiership players one an international coming out. I believe that a statement had been issued saying that they were going to come out. |
That maybe because a newspaper has got the informtion and has basically said give us your story and come out or we will write our own story...... |  |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 14:59 - Oct 26 with 6229 views | NW5Hoop |
Everyone who thinks it doesn't matter anymore should remember what all crowds, including ours, are like when Brighton come to play. A load of people singing "Does your boyfriend know you're here?" Yeah, football's got rid of homophobia. | | | |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 15:04 - Oct 26 with 6206 views | Pommyhoop |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 14:59 - Oct 26 by NW5Hoop |
Everyone who thinks it doesn't matter anymore should remember what all crowds, including ours, are like when Brighton come to play. A load of people singing "Does your boyfriend know you're here?" Yeah, football's got rid of homophobia. |
Isn't that just a traditional stick to beat an opponent with. Nobody sings that with real malice do they? The same as we don't really think people from Liverpool eat rats out of dustbins.. | |
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 15:08 - Oct 26 with 6197 views | NW5Hoop |
| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 15:04 - Oct 26 by Pommyhoop |
Isn't that just a traditional stick to beat an opponent with. Nobody sings that with real malice do they? The same as we don't really think people from Liverpool eat rats out of dustbins.. |
You might not think you're singing it with real malice. But I bet you a gay bloke doesn't hear that and think, "It's all right, they're just having a laugh." You can't say something homophobic and then say it wasn't homophobic because you didn't mean it. If you don't mean it, don't bloody say it. Simple, really. It's different from the Liverpool/Northern songs, too — no one gets put in A&E for being from Liverpool; no one gets abused for kissing their partner in public because they're from Liverpool etc etc [Post edited 26 Oct 2015 15:10]
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| Honestly, who cares these days??/Gay premier league players about to come out. on 15:14 - Oct 26 with 6185 views | loftboy |
5 years ago it would have been a big problem, but there is so much openness these days I can't see it being major news, every where I've worked there's always been at least two or three gay people, every train journey you will see a pair of lesbians holding hands or kissing, it's up to them, nobody else's business, as I say to my old mum who's worried my youngest is going to "be queer" because he dresses up in his sisters clothes, there's nothing you can do about it, if he's gay he's gay, he will still be my son and I will still love him and you can't change him because he is whatever he is. |  |
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