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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! 11:37 - Jul 25 with 39642 viewsSpiritofGregory

Has anyone else on here been following the American election?

Trump has got all the lefties wound up with his no nonsense, unpolitically correct straight talking.

The Democrats have also got their own version on Corbyn who is rivalling Hilary Clinton.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 18:23 - Jul 25 with 3525 viewsBluce_Ree

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 14:55 - Jul 25 by SpiritofGregory

God he looks like one of those lefty blokes who thinks it's cool to grow a beard.


He's a power tw@t that's for sure. It's my goto .gif when something is shit enough to deserve it.

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 18:26 - Jul 25 with 3523 viewsCanadaRanger

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 17:26 - Jul 25 by FDC

An astonishing post. Each sentence is complete nonsense
[Post edited 25 Jul 2015 17:32]


They owe over 100% of their GDP to lenders, including China. Look it up. Their debt is something over 14 trillion dollars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

See figure showing how their debt was stable till around 1980, has risen since, and has ballooned under Obama. Sorry to confuse you with the facts.

Obama is mortgaging America's future, but he's not the only President to have contributed to this, just the biggest. It's not left wing or ring wing, it's plain economics. You borrow from someone. You are expected to pay them back.
[Post edited 25 Jul 2015 18:29]
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:04 - Jul 25 with 3453 views1BobbyHazell

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 18:22 - Jul 25 by CanadaRanger

According to Bill Clinton, the Chinese...


Dig a little deeper brother. If you're really interested in understanding Nation's debt have a look at all the countries (all of them!) that are in debt and to ultimately the private institutions to which they are in debt to. If American debt as a simple as being in debt to the Chinese why are the Chinese in debt also? Large amounts of American debt is to institutions that exist within it. Illusionary stuff. Numbers on easily manipulated computer screens.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:27 - Jul 25 with 3427 viewsMonahoop

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 12:54 - Jul 25 by daveB

no one can surely be taking Trump seriously, he's a lunatic. Some of his comments on Mexicans were incredible


Well, SoG obviously does. Probably whistles Dixie under his Clan mask too.

There aint half been some clever bastards.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:36 - Jul 25 with 3413 viewsdaveB

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 12:59 - Jul 25 by SpiritofGregory

He'll get that Hispanic vote, he creates jobs, the others are career politicians bought and paid for.

He also praises the Mexican people too but the media choose to ignore that part.


yeah all the medias fault, I think in his initial speech he spoke of building a wall to stop mexicans coming in and was quoted as saying " When Mexico sends us their people, they are not sending their best, they are sending drug dealers, criminals and rapists.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:47 - Jul 25 with 3399 viewsTheBlob

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:04 - Jul 25 by 1BobbyHazell

Dig a little deeper brother. If you're really interested in understanding Nation's debt have a look at all the countries (all of them!) that are in debt and to ultimately the private institutions to which they are in debt to. If American debt as a simple as being in debt to the Chinese why are the Chinese in debt also? Large amounts of American debt is to institutions that exist within it. Illusionary stuff. Numbers on easily manipulated computer screens.



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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:59 - Jul 25 with 3386 viewsMatch82

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 14:11 - Jul 25 by SpiritofGregory

He has given more jobs to Mexicans then you ever will. If you have illegal immigrants commiting crime in the country you don't do what career politicians do and sweep it under the carpet, you deal with it.
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"He has given more jobs to Mexicans then you ever will"



Yeah Bluce, you big racist.
Why haven't your multiple billion dollar businesses given more jobs to people who live 5000 miles away?

This is an astonishing bit of trolling, slow golf clap for you SOG
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 20:37 - Jul 25 with 3337 viewseastside_r

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:59 - Jul 25 by Match82

"He has given more jobs to Mexicans then you ever will"



Yeah Bluce, you big racist.
Why haven't your multiple billion dollar businesses given more jobs to people who live 5000 miles away?

This is an astonishing bit of trolling, slow golf clap for you SOG


Have to agree, this is a spectacular piece of trolling.

(Not that I ever enter into dialogue with the OP but isn't SoG a she rather than a he?)
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:22 - Jul 25 with 3296 viewsWesty75

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 14:53 - Jul 25 by Bluce_Ree



:-)

To paraphrase the late great Bill Hicks ...

If you respect Donald Trump, everything you say is suspect and every word that comes out of your mouth is now like a turd falling into my drink.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:50 - Jul 25 with 3268 viewsMrSheen

I think that Trump, the Republican front-runner, is a registered Democrat, who is on record praising both Clintons. You don't get to be a real estate magnate without buttering up/bribing politicians and in New York they're mostly Democrats. Bernie Sanders, one of the Democrat front-runners, has never been a member of the Democratic Party.

Trump has walked away from his debts multiple times, he's not fit to run an ice cream van.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 21:57 - Jul 25 with 3260 viewsCHUBBS

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:04 - Jul 25 by 1BobbyHazell

Dig a little deeper brother. If you're really interested in understanding Nation's debt have a look at all the countries (all of them!) that are in debt and to ultimately the private institutions to which they are in debt to. If American debt as a simple as being in debt to the Chinese why are the Chinese in debt also? Large amounts of American debt is to institutions that exist within it. Illusionary stuff. Numbers on easily manipulated computer screens.


https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=webhp&tbm=isch&source=hp&ei=2_ezVeruC
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 22:28 - Jul 25 with 3230 viewsitsbiga

I've live in Los Angeles for the past 8 years.
Trump is considered a total prick in the US unless your an uneducated right wing dickhead.
Admittedly most of America fits that bill, but he simply won't get in because the east and west coast of the country hold too many votes and ain't dumb redneck hillbillies.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 00:43 - Jul 26 with 3166 viewseasthertsr

Anyone ever seen a documentary about a golf course Trump put together in Scotland? He came across as a total pr1ck, surprise, surprise, with a lot of help from a certain Alex Salmond!
If that cretin gets anywhere near the White House we are all in deep Sh1t! The man is a total idiot with no coherent policies apart from appealing to a 'red-neck agenda' Just plain embarrassing , SOG he will be history very, very shortly in the presidential race, as someone said on this thread, he makes even the loony right-wingers appalled!Pathetic!
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 08:53 - Jul 26 with 3082 viewsNorthernr

I'd vote for Steven Pressley personally.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 10:42 - Jul 26 with 3019 viewsCanadaRanger

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:04 - Jul 25 by 1BobbyHazell

Dig a little deeper brother. If you're really interested in understanding Nation's debt have a look at all the countries (all of them!) that are in debt and to ultimately the private institutions to which they are in debt to. If American debt as a simple as being in debt to the Chinese why are the Chinese in debt also? Large amounts of American debt is to institutions that exist within it. Illusionary stuff. Numbers on easily manipulated computer screens.


Of course, you are correct, it's not a simple situation, but Bill Clinton's comment re China is telling...
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 10:55 - Jul 26 with 3003 viewsTacticalR

Some thoughts...

1) It's very funny how SoG and the other rightists have their version of political correctness. It seems we must never use the word 'racism' because, you see, that term has 'expired'. It's inappropriate. It doesn't seem to matter whether there really are racists or not, we must just not use the term. But if Trump uses good old-fashioned racism then surely we can do a bit of 'no nonsense, unpolitically correct straight talking' of our own and call him what he is?

2) Capitalists do not 'give jobs', they exploit human labour. They purchase what they need to make profits (land, machinery, offices etc) including labour. If the labour is unprofitable then US employees will be discarded. If a more efficient production process is introduced that needs less labour, then US employees will be discarded. As has been happening for decades, if greater profits can be made abroad then US employees will be discarded.

3) I do not agree with those who say Trump is irrational. The capitalist class is a tiny minority and cannot rule purely through state power (although the US police are becoming militarised). It must therefore try and build a wider base of support, particularly as the American Dream is evaporating. Trump has chosen to do this through racism - he seeks to disguise that he is a member of the super-rich elite by focusing attention on Mexicans in the hope that his 'we're all in this together because we're all white and we're all Americans' rhetoric will get people behind him and keep them tied to the decaying system. It's crude, it shows a complete lack of a positive ideas, but it's perfectly rational.
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Air hostess clique

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 11:04 - Jul 26 with 2986 viewsSpiritofGregory

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 08:53 - Jul 26 by Northernr

I'd vote for Steven Pressley personally.


You'd vote for Chris Ramsey.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 11:08 - Jul 26 with 2980 viewsSpiritofGregory

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 15:57 - Jul 25 by bosh67

As flamboyant as Donald Trump is I fear the worst if he ever gets into the White House. I doubt that he will do anything to create jobs for anyone who isn't white American. He is brilliant businessman in the USA but on the world stage he would be a disaster.


Are you saying that in all his years of hiring people he's only hired white Americans?
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 11:24 - Jul 26 with 2958 viewsTheBlob

If you can do it in the States you can do it anywhere.
Geschäft ist Geschäft.
But I'm not quite sure was is meant in the word "great".If you mean post war/50's/60's industrial prosperity - will not happen given the debt,unless some very hard times indeed are endured.Some sort of revolution has to happen,you can't keep on clubbing people over the head and expecting them not to notice.And with all revolutions it will be from the middle classes.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 11:47 - Jul 26 with 2936 viewsNorthernr

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 11:04 - Jul 26 by SpiritofGregory

You'd vote for Chris Ramsey.


Not another Tottenham president
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 12:27 - Jul 26 with 2893 viewsTacticalR

If you've got 14 minutes, this short video report from CBS about the state of America's infrastructure is very revealing:

Falling apart: America's neglected infrastructure
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/falling-apart-america-neglected-infrastructure/

Air hostess clique

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 13:44 - Jul 26 with 2865 views08olesen

Anybody would be better than Hillary. I bet they now regret not putting Romney in in 2012. Obamacare isnt at all what it was cracked up to be...and people laughed when Romney said Russia was one of the biggest Geo-political threats along side Iran. Looks like he was right if you ask me.

Marco Rubio looks an interesting bloke to me for 2016.

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 16:54 - Jul 26 with 2759 viewsDylanP

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 11:08 - Jul 26 by SpiritofGregory

Are you saying that in all his years of hiring people he's only hired white Americans?


No, but construction jobs don't actually add jobs to the economy, or at least, only add marginally (by the extent that one builder is more efficient than another). The reason for that is that manufacturing and certain service sectors (like finance) compete with corporations in other countries. So, a successful factory in the US building cars, is competing with car manufacturers in Japan, Germany and Korea for business. The more successful the US manufacturer is, the more jobs created in the US. This are jobs added to the economy directly. However, construction doesn't work that way. Basically, US construction companies only compete against other US construction companies. Therefore, if one US company succeeds it doesn't result in a net add of jobs. So, for example, a few years ago Trump competed and won the right to build a luxury hotel in the Old Post Office in Washington DC. He was competing against other US construction companies. The task required lots of construction jobs. However, if Trump had not won the construction contract, then another US construction company would have won the contract creating approximately the same number of jobs. Hence, in national economic terms, the fact that Trump won the contract (which was great for Trump) added no additional jobs to the US economy. In other words, Trump didn't add any jobs because those jobs would have been in the US economy whether he won it or some other construction firm won it.

Obviously, I a simplifying for the sake of the post. If one company is significantly more efficient than the competition, than that would have an impact, but it isn't clear which way, of course. Efficiency could mean building the same building with less workers. But overall, construction is a sector that reacts to the market and sustains jobs, but one particular construction company does not add jobs net to the overall economy.
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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 17:34 - Jul 26 with 2719 viewspaulparker

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 19:27 - Jul 25 by Monahoop

Well, SoG obviously does. Probably whistles Dixie under his Clan mask too.


That's a bit low Monahoop
I don't always agree with SOG but to compare him to those animals in the KKK is a bit much

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 17:39 - Jul 26 with 2711 viewsdanehoop

Donald Trump - Make America Great Again! on 17:34 - Jul 26 by paulparker

That's a bit low Monahoop
I don't always agree with SOG but to compare him to those animals in the KKK is a bit much


No, seems a fair analysis for the First Lady of wum

Never knowingly understood

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