| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt 13:50 - Mar 14 with 5345 views | libertine |
Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt by trying your hardest.
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| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 09:26 - Mar 15 with 644 views | Phaedrus |
Why are you not out in your boat or snorting coke off a hookers hooch? Its the weekend man. |  |
| And what is good Phaedrus, and what is not good. Need we ask anyone to tell us these things? |
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| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 09:26 - Mar 15 with 643 views | Polar |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 09:17 - Mar 15 by Shaky |
Well your reputation for high quality entertainment value certainly precedes you.
Hopefully you will stick around -- would make a very welcome change from some of the dullards around here. |
Thankyou sir.
It certainly has increased in the dull stakes since I last frequented often. Maybe too many of the "personalities" have been pushed out, I dont know. |  | | |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 09:43 - Mar 15 with 619 views | Spratty |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 17:07 - Mar 14 by Shaky |
No doubt I am going to get quite a bit of flack for this but here is my story.
I was pretty good at schoolboy level but through an administrative cock-up plus my rapidly growing interest in nightclubs stopped playing at the age of 14.
I was a box to box central midfielder but also had a knack for a pass, and always knew the right spaces to put the ball where runners would appear. It was uncanny.
I then stopped playing for about 10 years and later got roped into playing for reasonable county side in Kent. By that time I already had a bit of a beer belly on me and was not fit, not did I really have any incentive to train properly but I still played a few seasons with some success.
However, when I started playing again I knew there was something missing completely unrelated to my fitness, and I still had a good touch. After a while it dawned on me that my instinctive understanding of where my teammates where and where they were running had vanished.
With hindsight I realised I had had a sort of sixth sense that had somehow lost during my break.
No doubt many will scoff at this, but has anybody ever heard of such a thing before? |
Think there is a lot of work on brain development and consolidation pre/post puberty.
Synapse overproduction followed by cull.
The more ‘important’ synapses it seems are preserved and strengthened with myelin whilst others are left to die back. This could explain what you describe. Especially as some consider if the item has not been in regular use at the time of the cut back selection process then it is more likely to be culled. |  | | |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 12:12 - Mar 15 with 583 views | dameedna |
To me Darren Ferguson was one of the best players in the world. I thought he would go much further. I think his speed let him down in the end. |  | | |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 12:35 - Mar 15 with 576 views | C_jack |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 02:07 - Mar 15 by Polar |
Yet equador cant compete with Kenya? How come? People from different ethnicities have differing physical make up. That is a fact. Fast and slow twitch fibers and differing proportions of each. That is why you rarely get the worlds fastest 100m sprinter being white or the worlds best swimmer being black.
My last paragraph hasnt contradicted itself at all. Of course Bergkamps footballing brain developed from playing football... But so does everyone else play football. Why does Bergkamp have a mich better game intelligence than Freddie Ljungberg?
Are you suggesting Bergkamps suoerior footballing brain and intelligence was simply because he played more often than anyone else?
Thats just silly. |
I have no idea what the provision for Athletics in Ecuador is like, but I'd be confident in taking a punt that it's nothing compared to Kenya, it's a mix of a cocktail of things, as I've stated.
Physical traits that we can attribute from genetics are things such as fast/slow twitch fibres ( these can be trained, they are not exclusive) and perhaps bone/muscle density, which is what I think you're referring to in your black swimmer analogy, but then we can counteract that because there are many fantastic black long distance runners, and there are fantastic white sprinters, such as the frenchman Christophe Lemaitre, who at the age of 24, has run faster than Asafa Powell did at that age.
My opinion, is that with a lot of prominent black role models in sports such as sprinting, more than others such as Cycling for example, that young black individuals are enticed to that sport, and through that develop the skill and talent required, regardless of their genetic make up and skin colour. The days of black guys are fast, white guys are clever doesn't really compute any more.
With Dennis Bergkamp, my analysis would be that he was brought through the famous Ajax academy from the age of 11, the make up of the academy is such that youngsters play in almost every position on the field, there is no fixed status i.e defender, midfielder, striker. Through this he more than likely developed an incredible cognitive amount of scenario recall in his subconscious, as to where players are likely to be positioned on the field etc This is compared to Freddie Ljungberg was most likely playing in the same midfield role from age 11 until retirement. [Post edited 15 Mar 2014 12:36]
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| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 12:50 - Mar 15 with 572 views | C_jack |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 07:25 - Mar 15 by Dr_Winston |
So why wasn't Darren Ferguson one of the best players in the world? |
Probably the same reason Sir Alex wasn't, it's not the hours of hard work/practice that distinguishes us, it's the quality. 1000 hours of improvement is better than 5000 of plateau and limitation.
If I aim to do 10 keepie uppies, and the next week decide that I'm going to just try get 10 again, then my skill isn't progressing, it's being established at one level. If I go back the next week and decide that I'm going to do 15.. then I keep practising until I get to 15, now I should be able to do 10 no problem, that level of skill is refined. That is purposeful practice, constantly developing and improving.
Beckham and free kicks is another good analogy, he stayed behind in training until he got a certain amount of successive attempts in goal. | |
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| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 12:58 - Mar 15 with 568 views | Dr_Winston |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 12:50 - Mar 15 by C_jack |
Probably the same reason Sir Alex wasn't, it's not the hours of hard work/practice that distinguishes us, it's the quality. 1000 hours of improvement is better than 5000 of plateau and limitation.
If I aim to do 10 keepie uppies, and the next week decide that I'm going to just try get 10 again, then my skill isn't progressing, it's being established at one level. If I go back the next week and decide that I'm going to do 15.. then I keep practising until I get to 15, now I should be able to do 10 no problem, that level of skill is refined. That is purposeful practice, constantly developing and improving.
Beckham and free kicks is another good analogy, he stayed behind in training until he got a certain amount of successive attempts in goal. |
Oh right.
So being raised as a footballer from birth until professionalism by one of the best coaches to ever manage a team wasn't enough quality for Darren Ferguson to be anything more than a nondescript lower league footballer. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 13:13 - Mar 15 with 558 views | C_jack |
| Are just born with great footballing skills it or can it be learnt on 12:58 - Mar 15 by Dr_Winston |
Oh right.
So being raised as a footballer from birth until professionalism by one of the best coaches to ever manage a team wasn't enough quality for Darren Ferguson to be anything more than a nondescript lower league footballer. |
Sir Alex did not develop young players, nor was he the youth coach at United when his son was in the set up. His expertise was managing and polishing very good players. Two different roles, completely. Paul Hart is a fantastic renowned youth manager, but in recent years he struggled to make the switch to senior management.
DF won the premier league in the inaugral season, before dropping into the lower leagues. I'd like to say he wouldn't even had made the United youth set up had he not been SAF's son, but he was given the opportunity of quality practice in a decent set up. [Post edited 15 Mar 2014 13:14]
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