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at 19:55 3 Jul 2024

I apologise on the un-funded tax cuts, I did not read your post carefully enough.

I don't apologise for the earlier remark as I think it was justified on the basis of a previous post where a link was made between a particular racial group and their supposed propensity to rape.
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 17:48 3 Jul 2024

Whatever the rights and wrongs on these specific players am really encouraged that these are the kind of players we are being linked with. Implies some genuine scouting / analytical works rather than "Jeff Hendrix is available!"
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at 17:44 3 Jul 2024

Well you say you want a better Lib Dem party.

But from what you have said here you basically support Reform, or at least their policies.

If you want unfunded tax cuts and a clampdown on immigration then they are your party with the Tories your second choice (second because they talk about cutting immigration while actually increasing it which makes them the worst of the lot on this issue IMHO because it is so lacking in honesty).

The Lib Dems don't believe tax cuts are currently affordable (and virtually every serious economist agrees with them).

On the economy they would improve the trade deal with Europe so we weren't so restricted in trading with our biggest partner - fixing what you rightly describe as the Tories badly handled withdrawal from the EU.

On immigration they believe in better education and training for British workers to tackle the problem at source.
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 15:24 3 Jul 2024

OK mate well I believe you.

I guess it might make sense then to go after him as well as the Brentford lad - assuming we are hoping to move Cannon on.
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at 15:18 3 Jul 2024

I don't see think the Lib Dems have moved to the left particularly Hubble but almost everywhere they can win they are fighting against a sitting Tory MP so they have to emphasise where they think the Tories have gone wrong (crashing the economy under Truss, presiding over an NHS crisis, lack of apprenticeships etc).

Isn't it more that since Cameron left the Tories have moved ever further to the right - if you have a Conservative prime minister who just parrots "stop the boats" and only seems interested in courting wealthy pensioners then a centre party is going to appear relatively left wing by comparison.
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at 15:08 3 Jul 2024

Would be hilarious if it were not so damaging how the Tories and their media friends have sought to dump this all on Davey. He was assured by his civil servants and by the Post Office that Horizon was working properly. When he realised that was bollocks he become the first politician to hold his hand up and apologise. The Tories were still insisting until relatively recently that there wasn't an issue - a lie repeated by many of Davey's Tory successors even tho by then they WERE fully aware there was a problem.

As for the stunts, if our Tory supporting press ever gave fair coverage to the Lib Dems Davey wouldn't have to engage in stunts. Compare how much coverage he got compared to the acres of uncritical publicity for Farage until the Mail etc belatedly woke up to the very obvious fact that a good showing for Reform would stuff the Tories.

Why do you think Davey does these stunts? Its the only way to get any coverage. He is not stupid: he knows the press will take the piss, but he rightly calculates that its better to be laughed at than ignored. If the only way to get attention for how water companies pump thousands of tones of raw sewage into our rivers is to swim in a shit-infested river, so be it.

There have many general elections where the Lib Dems had far more support than Farage has ever had yet they got a fraction of the coverage that Reform enjoy. Go figure.
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 14:30 3 Jul 2024

I thought I read he was a wing back - has virtually no goals or assists.

However, will try to avoid committing the Foreign Player Fallacy - that is, claiming to know anything at all about player I had honestly not heard of until a week ago...
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 12:39 3 Jul 2024

Interesting. A right back. I thought that Brazilian lad Herverton seemed fairly nailed on for that position.
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Transfer rumours 2024
at 12:28 3 Jul 2024

Would like Hayden to re-sign. One of those players who appears better through stats than your eyes. Clearly made a big difference, but largely doing the quiet, simple stuff that the average fan (me included) doesn't always notice.

That said, I learned my lesson from the Stefan debacle. I was among those clamouring for him to be signed on a permanent deal and we all know how that went. Parallels not exact as Hayden younger and apparently fitter. But if we are to sign a player contrary to our model (which is all about sell-on value) it has to be on our terms. We need to be prepared to walk away. The priority (broken record time) has to be a striker, and then we can work out what else (if anything) we can do this window with any remaining funds.
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at 17:58 1 Jul 2024

Which, as I suspect you might agree, begs the question. If someone is coming to the country to take up a role as a nurse, is that "crucial"? Or if the role can't be filled - and there are already tens of thousands of vacancies in the NHS - is that just tough, and we do without the nurse? Or do they pump billions extra into the NHS to raise salaries and tempt more Brits into the roles? If so, where does that money come from? These are the kind of real, serious problems governments have to wrestle with, albeit the Conservatives were never truthful or brave enough to spell out the trade offs.
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Richards.
at 09:57 29 Jun 2024

So Richards bears no personal responsibility for failing to do his job for a year?
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Denmark 🇩🇰 v England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Match Thread
at 23:19 20 Jun 2024

No problem with attritional. Some of the most cynical sides in world football have won tournaments. But we can’t complete a 5-yard-pass. Was laughing at Scotland’s 1980s comedy Championship tribute act last night putting balls out for soft corners etc because they couldn’t do the basics of passing out for the back. But we looked bereft. Southgate will get abuse - and after his complacent response to our first match rightly so - but there is something rotten in the state of England and the Denmark match highlighted that. That was QPR away to Millwall bad.

What I can’t work out is whether a) this group of players is monumentally over rated or b) playing for England makes anyone crap.
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I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 14:56 20 Jun 2024

Broadly agree that clubs (and fans) display similar lack of loyalty as managers.

And also that sacking the manager is often not the solution (except in extreme cases such as Ainsworth). Think an academic did one of those studies that academics do these days and his conclusion was that generally sacking a manager resulted in a brief uptick in form before the club typically reverted to its previous average results.

For clarity, I was being world-weary rather than condemnatory - after Beale left having vowed not to, nothing would shock me very much about a manager's departure and I would chalk it up as being the way of the world.

Where I slightly take issue is that a manager who is sacked has (as far as I'm aware) his full contract paid off, whereas due to changes in employment law the protection for most of us is now almost non-existent. A club left mid-season is often left in a complete mess.
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Leaving loftus road...
at 13:03 20 Jun 2024

Surely the essential reasons why none of this will happen is:

Buying more land around Loftus Rd would cost fortunes and not significantly increase capacity or improve facilities to use the ground for other events - so hardly any return on investment.

Buying new land for a new stadium would be prohibitive in this part of town, particularly given a lot of fans stubbornly say they wouldn't continue to support the club if it moved too far away.

The economics of football dictate you are only viable if you are in the premier league, and there the revenue is all about tv rather than fans in the stadium.

For these three reasons I think fans will continue to come up with ingenious plans to buy up gardens in Ellerslie Rd and build road tunnels on SA Rd but in ten years time we will still be sitting in the same crap seats in much the same stadium, probably still being served mouth-scorching pukka pies.
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Richards.
at 12:48 20 Jun 2024

Most likely but in the real economy even under these circumstances you can eventually ease someone out, either through redundo or a compromise agreement. I have yet to read a satisfactory explanation as to why football works to such different rules. Even the PFA can't be THAT powerful. Judging by Albert's comments it doesn't appear the rest of the squad has massive empathy with him.
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I hope this is and stays just a rumour.
at 12:43 20 Jun 2024

Much as I like Marti I no longer use words like "scruples" in the context of people working in football. The amounts of money involved are simply so great that people who would probably be quite loyal in other areas of life are corrupted. Think it was Clive on here who revealed that Warbs had a number of chats with other clubs while he was with us, yet bar the last six months I naively thought he was pretty committed to our "project".

Am actually quite relaxed about Sunderland as its a bit of a basket case - high expectations but structural problems making success very difficult. The smarter move for him would surely be to think "lets get QPR top 6/8 by Christmas then I can either build on the success or pick up some more attractive offers".
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Potential update on Illias Chair...
at 12:34 20 Jun 2024

That might be what Chair is "offering" but (and appreciate I am at risk of becoming about the 99th poster on here to speak confidently yet with complete ignorance about Belgium law) I suspect that is a decision for the judge rather than Chair.
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Potential update on Illias Chair...
at 11:32 20 Jun 2024

Great news and a big relief.

Big outstanding question is when the community service will be?

If it could be over the summer, intensively, to get it out of the way, great.

If its 3pm every Sat then we are a bit screwed.
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Richards.
at 13:29 18 Jun 2024

Football does seem a bit different though.

Yes it is extremely difficult to get rid of someone who has been signed off sick in the real world, but not impossible. It is laborious and time consuming but ultimately you can get rid of them. I don’t see why it is apparently so much more difficult in football.
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Armstrong extended
at 12:03 14 Jun 2024

I see Frey as more of a Matt Smith type striker - useful sub. If he could play like he did against WBA every week happy to change my opinion.
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