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Swansea City v Norwich City : Match day thread
at 00:21 11 Sep 2024

3-1, 15,000 if not more, seemed to be a.younger element of fans to swell the numbers against Cardiff hopefully they would have enjoyed the first half will being glad the game was not lost.
As for the three goals being scored, in 2 out of the 4 games played at the stadium including the friendlies and Cup game when we got it right we came away with three goals.
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Should we continue to cover the national team ?
at 00:06 11 Sep 2024

Was going to write a long winded diatribe on being Welsh but thought I would come and take another look before posting it, lucky I did as it would seem your patience is being tested.

Quite happy to exchange views on these games during the internationals breaks, after all it is a football forum, don't think information needs to be as in depth as for the Swansea games but a thread being raised to initiate discussions during the run up, the game and the aftermath would be welcome.

Your tolerance is appreciated given some of the none football tangents that are created during discussions but some do seem antagonistic in nature rather than just the expressing of discussable opinions.
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 00:11 10 Sep 2024

Players who are ready at this level cost money which the club is not able or willing to spend.

Maybe we are letting our youngsters go out on loan too late, to be fair our younger players weren't given many chances to develop in the first team squad for four years under Cooper and Martin, take Congreve for instance given 10 minutes out on the wing looked good then shoved in for his first start away from home , if my memory serves me right, in a position he has not played in the first team no bedding in, strikes me as ludicrous.
Wasn't it Sheehan who introduced Parker into the team, please correct me if I am wrong, with the number of outgoings last season we needed youngsters in our squad not loaned out to seemingly balance the books leaving us short on cover playing Cooper up top when Thomas looked to be a better fit.
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🇲🇪Montenegro v Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 : Nations League 2/6
at 23:46 9 Sep 2024

Not surprising how the game went, Wales go two up and the home team has to go for it. A little more composure up front from either team could have seen Wales increasing the lead or Montenegro getting back in the game earlier.
Good win away from home after a tiring home game which maybe they should have won.
You could ask did we go too defensive in the first game after they went down to ten men instead of pressing home the advantage. Lots of ifs and buts, 4 points out of 6 with a limited squad and a new manager, you got to be happy surely?
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🇲🇪Montenegro v Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 : Nations League 2/6
at 22:00 9 Sep 2024

Couple of things with Cooper gets forward too soon when we get the ball out wide so it gives the winger only one option to play the ball as Cooper ended up being in line with the centre forward, he must either get beyond the CF or lie a little deeper to offer another option to the winger also when he collects the ball deep and has a chance to run with the ball he keeps it too long running into trouble instead of playing it earlier which then allows him space to run into for a return.
We have seen both these instances of play for the Swans so really think it is what he has been coached to do.
In need of some coaching but at times when he was not slipping he did get into good supporting positions to win the ball back.
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 19:33 9 Sep 2024

Williams has to work out who is ready and that includes the new signing?
With these players they have a lot to learn and some are still learning, I include the likes or Tymon and Key in that, as well as Williams himself he has tried to use the experience players to help the team along but the execution of tactics against different teans has been questionable.Early days sink or swim?
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 10:43 9 Sep 2024

And yet, Lowe Ayew Gyorkeres Surridge Piroe Whittaker and a few more left of their own volition either being out of contract or coming towards the last year seeking a alternative, some were not our players loaned to us.
Cullen didn't see them off the club did as they felt what was needed for fiscal prudence and listening to the manager's identified requirements at the time.
Did anyone expect the quality of the squad to improve after the drop from the Premier League we didn't get the promotion back as wished for and now we have to cut our cloth to suit.
Younger players who hopeful can step up to the challenge but they have to be given a chance, the spine of the team looks weak and needs a change, it may take time but it also takes a coach who can get the best out of his players improving the qualities they possess and an adaptable playing style to match the opposition teams
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Abdulai linked with West Ham and Bournemouth
at 15:18 8 Sep 2024

Think it is time to at least try the midfield without Grimes because ultimately against better teams his lack of pace is telling, if he is pushed forward he needs cover when Fulton and Korey Smirh played alongside him but that meant a blunting of our forward play as both Fulton and Smith didn't offer enough going forward.
Would I push Abdulai into that CDM position yet? My intial thinking would be no let Franco bed in but then again if Abdulai and Franco bed in together it might be a blessing.
Quite enjoyed the Wales game same players in defence and midfield looked good going forward as they did with Page but Page would adopt the defensive shape too much.If anything. Bellamy 's pressing game was well thought out, no Vipotnik or Yates rushing from one player to the with no support coming in the middle of the park, found it like schoolboys football to see Eom rushing to close down a full back only to the ball to be push into the space left leaving him stranded and bypassed with ease. Under orders? It was telling against Cardiff in the second half that Cooper was caught in two minds push on to support Cullen or wait for the support from behind that was not forth coming allowing us to be played through at their leisure, seen it far to often under Russell hoping it is ended by Williams.
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 18:28 6 Sep 2024

I have no problem with international call ups and protocols needed which was alluded to in my last sentence but obviously I didn't express that view appropriately.
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 11:01 6 Sep 2024

If teams are run properly they should be making an assessment of the opposition and it players before games.Who are playing come out an hour before so they can adjust their formation to suit with the players they have announced,with preparations they have previously worked on. When managers give honest answers to the media questions I do think things are given away, nothing wrong with a little deception and misdirection, Cullen's injury is understandable given his on the pitch reactions.
In the case of international call ups and dropouts then the media is given information that are felt necessary to give to be fair to all concern, the players and teams, squad have to be announced surely.
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 22:46 5 Sep 2024

Yeah I know, there is keeping your fans informed but their is giving a bit too much information away to other clubs making us a open book to read.
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No official news on Liam Cullen’s injury
at 22:07 5 Sep 2024

He took two hits on the ankle against Wycombe the first he tried to shake off the second he looked uncomfortable after. Cannot see the issue he didn't play against WBA, presuming the hit taken would need time to recover, ankle injuries can sometimes need time to come back from.
Why risk him with a international window giving him a chance to recover. He would know how strong the ankle is and would also seek the advise of the clubs medical staff, seems he is doing what is best for the club and himself while keeping his head down. Why would the club advertise the extent of the injury to other club so they target him on his return?
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Jerry Yates - Derby ...
at 09:44 2 Sep 2024

Thought we defended well as a team against PNE and Cardiff, first half and if the defending was better against WBA in the second half maybe William's will get the team functioning better for the whole game both in defence and attack sooner rather than later. Making and taking chances early in games, it is harder in away games as teams are expected to attack, providing we are defensively strong then no reason why we shouldn't be able to ride out teams intial pressure, even picking up away points as we did under Sheehan and Williams last season.
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Bashir Humphreys loan to Burnley
at 08:50 2 Sep 2024

Your vinyls are up the attic mate, is it a the player you're missing?
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Jerry Yates - Derby ...
at 08:37 2 Sep 2024

Yes I appreciate I needed to watch the game before commenting which is why I haven't posted much this weekend in relation to the game.
As for players looking a class above there is something wrong within the team that means opposition players attributes are not being countered while ours are not being utilised to their full potential.
As has been said before one size doesn't fit all, as teams use formations and styles to put us under pressure we have to use formations that relieve that pressure whatever part of the game we are in. Teams conceded goals just before the half time mark because plans are put in place to change things, up the pressure on team as they lose concentration looking for the half time whistle. Our team seems unable to adapt as games progress, leadership on the pitch or coaching that is stuck in a rigided style of play that teams know how to counter?
A noteable game against PNE under Martin we totally dominated the first half going 3-0 up with Manning as a winger, something unexpected, PNE came out with a different plan in the second half so Manning was put back to fullback as we were in a position to win the game as defend that 3-0 lead successfully, just.

We have a number of new players that William's has to have a look at but it is the players he should know by now who have problems that need help in addressing.
Martin had that horrendous run but addressed a number of problems to go on an acceptable run of games with the same players but playing a different style that suited the players at his disposal.
The fact we are now short on centre forward players is amazing, coach naivety or club staffing ineptitude.

Liked what we saw against PNE this season and Cardiff's first half was what we expected but the second half, the league Cup games and the away games we really are playing below par.
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Jerry Yates - Derby ...
at 23:02 1 Sep 2024

Found it quite interesting in the article about Dembele at odds with Mowbray about what was being asked of him, Dembele wants to conserve energy for what he thought was beneficial to him and the attacking part of Birmingham's game and Mowbray wanted him to do the tracking back bit, so called him out for his workrate.
We have too many players being asked to modify
their game to the detriment of the player hinself and the team as a whole while being asked to play a role they are not suited to. Cooper as centre forward ! Really? Haven't had a chance to see the WBA game but you really have to get the defensive shape of the team right, If that is sorted the likes of Eom and Ronald have enough in their games to cause teams problems, we could even make our centre forward look good.

Edit because the last reference to the centre forward didn't make sense.
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : Pre Match
at 14:17 31 Aug 2024

Injured? Took a knock when he came on and seemed trou led by it laterin the Wycombe game.
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc
at 10:44 31 Aug 2024

Cooper has put a bit of weight on to help the physical natue of his game and against PNE he was instrumental in two of the goals getting in the box in support of the wingers from the middle of the park.
At the moment the likes of Fulton aren't getting anywhere near the standard of his midfield play, if Franco doesn't start I would play Allen with Cooper.
How the team is sets up to counter the opposition formation is paramount, it was a cruise through the PNE and the first half of the Cardiff game would we have liked more incisive play yes but the second half of the Cardiff game and the whole Wycombe game we didn't counter or match their formation, how Luke wants the team to play and how he sets up the team to outplay the opposition are two different things.
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Josh Thomas signs for Bromley
at 17:37 30 Aug 2024

Have seen Josh scoring goals in the friendlies and then not used along with others shipped out. Hope thiese moves are the making of them and Swansea reap any benefit in the long term
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WBA v Swansea City : Match day thread : pub guide Inc
at 17:33 30 Aug 2024

Franco, Cooper in the midfield with either Eom or Abdulai as the number 10 the other out wide with Ronald on the left
The fullback Key and Tymon playing as fullbacks getting forward when they can but making sure we are defensively secure, would even play the left footed Pedersen on the left central defence with either Darling or Cabango, Cullen up top.
Time for a change either get Grimes out of the defence or our of the starting line up.He has been coasting make him fight for his place.
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