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'Martin Out' fans are clueless!
at 23:03 23 Sep 2024

I guess you could say I was "moaning" about RM since he was appointed (am I part of this "cult" you mention? Sounds thrilling). As I've said since the beginning he's not the right long term choice because trying to play an even more possession heavy approach than Man City is not the right long term choice if we want to survive in the PL. We don't have the money to make it work and we never will.

Everything I've seen since we've been promoted has confirmed that view. RM's successes at the business end of last season, and this season (such as they are), have come when he has backed off from his purist possession approach. He's said that he won't compromise his principles, but the truth is that he has, and the further away we've got from his preferred style, the better we've done.

Could he compromise his style enough for us to survive in the PL? I guess it's possible, but we know that if that happens, he'll revert back as soon as he gets the chance. That's what he did at the start of this season. As soon as he felt he had a bit of breathing room it was back to telling McCarthy to play with his feet, even though we all knew that was ridiculous.

So, long term he is not the answer and I think a lot of people now share that view. These people then say, if he isn't the long term answer, then we should change manager now. Perhaps you could explain why you so confidently say this view is stupid and clueless, and maybe you could do it in a less aggressive way than you have so far.
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'Martin Out' fans are clueless!
at 21:40 23 Sep 2024

Why is RM "everything this club should be about"? What does that mean, if it means anything?

Edit: oops duplicated joidevivre
[Post edited 23 Sep 21:42]
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Benefits - essential safety net or invitation to abuse?
at 17:54 23 Sep 2024

Bitcoin, for example, has value because it is widely accepted as a "means of exchange" (money) and "store of value" (digital gold), similar to what gold was in prior centuries. Some of this acceptance may have a dubious origin (it is untraceable so is widely used in criminal activity and the black economy) but the fact remains that it is widely accepted and so has value. It's value is also underpinned by other factors e.g. there is only a certain amount will ever be "mined" (produced) so it is "scarce" and the fact that it can't be manipulated or forged due to the "blockchain" technology.

A Govt could create its own crypto as you outline, but the economics of what you describe would be very different to bitcoin. Creating an endless supply of currency (to pay benefits in) is very different to the limited supply of bitcoin, so it would lose any value it had. It would also struggle to gain the acceptance of bitcoin because part of the attraction of bitcoin is that no government can trace it.

However, many countries are considering introducing "Central Bank Digital Currencies" which are crypto versions of their national currencies and about 10 already exist. The value is fixed to the same as their national currency and a digital £ would be worth the same as a £ coin. For the UK, a decision might happen in 2025:

https://news.sky.com/story/britcoin-digital-pound-decision-to-be-made-by-2025-12
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A huge sense of entitlement
at 16:51 23 Sep 2024

Do we get a refund for backwards and sideways passes too?
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Everton Announce New Owners
at 16:31 23 Sep 2024

my mum always told me no to touch spots
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Some Great PR From Saints Media
at 16:28 23 Sep 2024

Lots of legal products pose a health risk including alcohol, tobacco, vapes, mars bars, e scooters and social media. It all depends on how they're regulated and how they're used.
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Southampton Monitoring Another Championship Manager
at 13:26 23 Sep 2024

So "sources" have told Football Insider that RM has 2 games to sort it out. Note that 1 of those is away against Arsenal so a bit tricky, so if they're right (big if) then it all comes down to the next game.

I'm no fan of RM, but if this is really how the board go about managing the club then they are total dicks. They give him a new 3 year contract and then ditch him 6 games later and only 3 games after the end of the transfer window? W*nkers.
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A huge sense of entitlement
at 12:56 23 Sep 2024

I hate Arsenal and the way they played yesterday (anti football) but I think this is just a typical manager reaction moaning about every decision. Also yesterday Gibbs White had a deserved sending off but Nuno can't see it and gets sent off himself. The week before a certain manager saw his beloved captain do the same as Gibbs White did yesterday but worse (studs up) and get sent off too, and this certain manager also gets booked for moaning.

It's not just the entitled managers.
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Southampton V Ipswich Town The Verdict
at 12:46 23 Sep 2024

Just listened to RM's interview where he spoke about "fundamental problems with the way we defended first the throw-in and then the corner... and that's people getting out of position which must be out of anxiety and desperation to hang on".

So, sounds like we didn't intend that mad defensive shape, but one or two people didn't do the job assigned to them. Very avoidable.
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Southampton V Ipswich Town The Verdict
at 10:21 23 Sep 2024

Yes you're right. Blocking shots is part of defending and sometimes it just comes down to the question of whether you're fully committed to stopping the shot or not.
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Southampton V Ipswich Town The Verdict
at 10:02 23 Sep 2024

"we conceded a goal that we really could have done little about"

I don't think that's right. We just needed one defender on the penalty spot, or on the edge of the box where there were 3 Ipswich players, instead of everyone being within six yards of the goal. Morsy had time to bring it down and set himself. You can't give someone that much time on the edge of the box. If he'd been hurried he probably wouldn't have struck it nearly so well.

But, if that is our chosen defensive shape for the corner, however mad, then we can't make a clearing header straight up field. Looking at the replay it was Diaz who headed it clear and he had the control to head it where he wanted. The players should be told that, if that is our chosen shape, then we don't head it straight upfield, we head it back to the wing where we had Armstrong covering. As it was, we set that strike up for them just as well as if they'd won the header.

We either had a bad plan for the set piece or we executed it badly, or both. Either way this goal could have been stopped on the training ground. Our set pieces often look a bit ragged as if we're not spending the time working on them that we should.
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The only way Saints will win today
at 12:26 22 Sep 2024

I watched the highlights of that Fulham game earlier. It's only highlights but it's really noticeable how quickly they get the ball forward. That's the main difference with us. We should be getting the same results as Fulham, we are similar sized clubs.

Their side are mostly odds and ends (Harrison Reed anyone?) that could be playing for us, though most would have considered not good enough. Traore was the one picked out on MOTD. He cost £5m. They made one big money signing in Smith Rowe, having sold their best players to Bayern Munich and Saudi. The main reason they do well is because Marco Silva is a good coach.
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The positives today
at 10:59 22 Sep 2024

It's true that our squad isn't great but a good manager would give us a chance of survival. A good manager creates a team that is more than the sum of its parts. RM has done the opposite. The players are better than 1 point and 2 goals from 5 relatively easy games.

One key part of that is defending well. It may not be much fun to watch but we need to get some 0-0 draws from games we should lose. Many of the goals we have conceded so far would have been prevented by doing some basic things right. Yesterday was another example from another set piece. Looks like being another RM season where his team concede masses of goals.
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Moments of class
at 08:56 22 Sep 2024

It was a goal of pure class from Lallana and Dibling yesterday. It's no coincidence that they have both been key to the 2 PL goals that we've scored this season because they are our 2 most technically gifted players, which is what you need if you want to play the passing game in the PL.

One of our biggest problems is that our build up play is generally too slow and we end up having to pass our way through a packed defence. Only top class players can do that with any regularity in the PL. We're fortunate that Lallana and Dibling are top class (even if you still hate AL). Lallana has the technique to play for Man City and Dibling probably does too. Neither has the physicality to last 90 mins at the moment, but the technique is top level.

The problem is that we don't have enough of these top level players to play this way in the PL. But when it works, it's magic.
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The positives today
at 08:21 22 Sep 2024

We increased our points total by a factor of infinity.
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Southampton Already Have Their Target To Replace Russell Martin
at 10:49 21 Sep 2024

"they say that the Saints board are also concerned about the tactics employed"

How can they not have known what his tactics were? The tactics are why they fvcking employed him in the first place.

Then, after a season in charge, they gave him a new 3 year contract in the summer. Did these morons still not know what his tactics were? Did it not cross their tiny minds that these tactics might not work so well in the PL and it might be both rash and totally unnecessary to give him a new contract?

If this is true it is the final proof that our board are fvcking morons and don't have a clue what they are doing.
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Benefits - essential safety net or invitation to abuse?
at 18:40 20 Sep 2024

yes the game should be enjoyable and hopefully the result too
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Top 3 things about being in the Prem
at 17:40 20 Sep 2024

How about not having to watch Ryan Manning any more?
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Sporting lookalikes.
at 17:39 20 Sep 2024

You dirty old man.

On a topical note, how about Kieran McKenna and Phil Neville. Are they actually the same person?
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Benefits - essential safety net or invitation to abuse?
at 13:53 20 Sep 2024

Yes Nick. I am no fan of the Tories but most of the problems that we've faced as a country are not their fault.

I'd add to that list 2 of our biggest problems:

1. Demographics. Our aging population is the fundamental reason why we are facing problems with the public finances and part of the reason why there are so many sick, which is where this thread started.

2. Climate change. We've had to invest billions in green energy and subsidise it, while shutting down our profitable north sea energy. It needs to be done, but it is costing billions.
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