| Yet another beheading on 10:20 - Oct 29 with 1915 views | Dr_Winston |
Some Islamic loonies are incompatible with some Christianity. Others get on with it just fine. The loonies need to be rooted out and harshly dealt with.
In much the same way as the kind of Christian crazies (thankfully rare in Europe) who see bombing abortion clinics or lynching black people as a good time need to be stamped out utterly. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Yet another beheading on 10:41 - Oct 29 with 1906 views | Jack11 |
| Yet another beheading on 10:20 - Oct 29 by Dr_Winston |
Some Islamic loonies are incompatible with some Christianity. Others get on with it just fine. The loonies need to be rooted out and harshly dealt with.
In much the same way as the kind of Christian crazies (thankfully rare in Europe) who see bombing abortion clinics or lynching black people as a good time need to be stamped out utterly. |
The others who get on with it fine have a greater responsibility to help with this. I don’t see enough from their end I’m afraid. They’re the ones who can really make a difference but for the most part are conspicuous by their actions, or lack of. |  | | |
| Yet another beheading on 11:03 - Oct 29 with 1888 views | felixstowe_jack |
Another outrage in Nice today, three killed. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 11:15 - Oct 29 with 1876 views | onehunglow |
Some good points here .
Is it religion per se or the people who adhere to a belief who misuse the belief for their own hateful ends.
Ive been asking myself that question all my life.
Majority of Muslims and practising Christians are no problem but there IS something in all religions that transfixes people and makes them obsessed. I d say Christianity has moved on but Winston make a good point about fundamentalists attacking abortion clinics.
I did once ,In Liverpool have charge of an anti abortion protest at Marie Stopes that was getting very nasty . The patients took horrendous abuse and I became quite involved with the organisers to prevent matters truly exploding. Have to say 35 years later I am still mindful of what they aid to me to justify their actions. These people ,in USA ,are wore still.
Leave religion alone folks. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 11:44 - Oct 29 with 1861 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Yet another beheading on 11:15 - Oct 29 by onehunglow |
Some good points here .
Is it religion per se or the people who adhere to a belief who misuse the belief for their own hateful ends.
Ive been asking myself that question all my life.
Majority of Muslims and practising Christians are no problem but there IS something in all religions that transfixes people and makes them obsessed. I d say Christianity has moved on but Winston make a good point about fundamentalists attacking abortion clinics.
I did once ,In Liverpool have charge of an anti abortion protest at Marie Stopes that was getting very nasty . The patients took horrendous abuse and I became quite involved with the organisers to prevent matters truly exploding. Have to say 35 years later I am still mindful of what they aid to me to justify their actions. These people ,in USA ,are wore still.
Leave religion alone folks. |
Modern Chistianity does not preach murder and death, but Islam does, they do not call them hate preachers for nothing.
They do not police their own religion in accord with where they live, in fact they tend towards sharia law instead. | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 11:53 - Oct 29 with 1844 views | Dr_Winston |
| Yet another beheading on 11:44 - Oct 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
Modern Chistianity does not preach murder and death, but Islam does, they do not call them hate preachers for nothing.
They do not police their own religion in accord with where they live, in fact they tend towards sharia law instead. |
Some modern Christians do preach murder and death. Some modern Islamic imams don't. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Yet another beheading on 12:25 - Oct 29 with 1830 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Yet another beheading on 11:53 - Oct 29 by Dr_Winston |
Some modern Christians do preach murder and death. Some modern Islamic imams don't. |
Well you have made the statement about Christians who preach as in bishops & ministers of the church, do you have any information to back it up?
I didn't say all Imams did, I said hate preachers. | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 12:31 - Oct 29 with 1828 views | onehunglow |
Modern Christianity preaches hate alright albeit in subtler fashion.
The Lord their God is a vengeful God.
Burning Hell is a living concept for them
Islam the threat is more visceral | |
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| Yet another beheading on 14:37 - Oct 29 with 1782 views | Dr_Winston |
| Yet another beheading on 12:25 - Oct 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well you have made the statement about Christians who preach as in bishops & ministers of the church, do you have any information to back it up?
I didn't say all Imams did, I said hate preachers. |
"but Islam does"
Your exact words. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 18:13 - Oct 29 with 1754 views | Andy1300 |
| Yet another beheading on 11:15 - Oct 29 by onehunglow |
Some good points here .
Is it religion per se or the people who adhere to a belief who misuse the belief for their own hateful ends.
Ive been asking myself that question all my life.
Majority of Muslims and practising Christians are no problem but there IS something in all religions that transfixes people and makes them obsessed. I d say Christianity has moved on but Winston make a good point about fundamentalists attacking abortion clinics.
I did once ,In Liverpool have charge of an anti abortion protest at Marie Stopes that was getting very nasty . The patients took horrendous abuse and I became quite involved with the organisers to prevent matters truly exploding. Have to say 35 years later I am still mindful of what they aid to me to justify their actions. These people ,in USA ,are wore still.
Leave religion alone folks. |
Religion is the cause of a lot of the conflicts past and present. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 18:18 - Oct 29 with 1747 views | onehunglow |
| Yet another beheading on 18:13 - Oct 29 by Andy1300 |
Religion is the cause of a lot of the conflicts past and present. |
Indeed it i as everybody thinks only they are right and all the others are wrong.
It is 2020 and we still have billions believing this garbage.
No one religion can adduce evidence to state it is 100% right. None.
No religion per se should be "respected" . | |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:02 - Oct 29 with 1730 views | Boundy |
People rightly have their counter arguments when they say other religious nutters have scripts pronouncing hell and damnation if you don't believe in a particular faith and in some cases sometimes act upon that religious mumbo jumbo with acts of violence , but does that mean we have to accept the acts against innocent people such as beheadings stabbings , shootings , crushed by a heavy goods vehicle, etc because somewhere in the rest of the world some other religious freak takes religious interpretation literally .
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall a Presbyterian stabbing someone in Oxford because they were offended
That to me is an acceptance of the abnormal becoming normal .FFS Words don't kill you .
Ban all religion | |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:30 - Oct 29 with 1699 views | Dr_Winston |
| Yet another beheading on 19:02 - Oct 29 by Boundy |
People rightly have their counter arguments when they say other religious nutters have scripts pronouncing hell and damnation if you don't believe in a particular faith and in some cases sometimes act upon that religious mumbo jumbo with acts of violence , but does that mean we have to accept the acts against innocent people such as beheadings stabbings , shootings , crushed by a heavy goods vehicle, etc because somewhere in the rest of the world some other religious freak takes religious interpretation literally .
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall a Presbyterian stabbing someone in Oxford because they were offended
That to me is an acceptance of the abnormal becoming normal .FFS Words don't kill you .
Ban all religion |
I don't think anyone is saying we have to accept them. Just not to tar them all with the same brush. There are many people in all major religious groups who do fantastic work in their local communities. There are others who preach hatred and murder.
Having said that I don't disagree that the World would be immeasurably better off without almost all of it. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:34 - Oct 29 with 1702 views | britferry |
France have an easy solution, they're giving away free boats in Calais | |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:42 - Oct 29 with 1691 views | Boundy |
| Yet another beheading on 19:30 - Oct 29 by Dr_Winston |
I don't think anyone is saying we have to accept them. Just not to tar them all with the same brush. There are many people in all major religious groups who do fantastic work in their local communities. There are others who preach hatred and murder.
Having said that I don't disagree that the World would be immeasurably better off without almost all of it. |
I can't disagree , there are many examples of so called christians acting in such a non christian manner it makes you wonder do they truly believe what they say. The sad thing is that the followers of Islam and Christianity believe in the same god but how different in their interpretations that it drives some to kill in his name . | |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:52 - Oct 29 with 1671 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Not sure you can equate the two. I don’t see many Christian versions of caliphates established in this Millenia.
I have no dog in this fight as I am an atheist and have seen murderous Christian nutters too, such as Brevik.
But Christian terrorism can’t be put in the same sentence as Islamic terrorism, not in the modern day. To suggest so is lunacy. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:55 - Oct 29 with 1673 views | Nortbankboy |
| Yet another beheading on 19:52 - Oct 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Not sure you can equate the two. I don’t see many Christian versions of caliphates established in this Millenia.
I have no dog in this fight as I am an atheist and have seen murderous Christian nutters too, such as Brevik.
But Christian terrorism can’t be put in the same sentence as Islamic terrorism, not in the modern day. To suggest so is lunacy. |
No place in the modern world for things like this | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 20:01 - Oct 29 with 1667 views | Boundy |
| Yet another beheading on 19:52 - Oct 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Not sure you can equate the two. I don’t see many Christian versions of caliphates established in this Millenia.
I have no dog in this fight as I am an atheist and have seen murderous Christian nutters too, such as Brevik.
But Christian terrorism can’t be put in the same sentence as Islamic terrorism, not in the modern day. To suggest so is lunacy. |
I'm not religious and as in politics its not a subject to have an opinion on unless you're willing to accept others points of view , but the catholic faith for example, how many people died in Africa and continue to die of AIDs and kids becoming orphans because contraception is classed as a sin . A simple condom could save a life but frowned upon because some body in another country ( Italy ) decrees its against god's will [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 20:15]
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| Yet another beheading on 20:11 - Oct 29 with 1657 views | builthjack |
| Yet another beheading on 19:55 - Oct 29 by Nortbankboy |
No place in the modern world for things like this |
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| Yet another beheading on 20:48 - Oct 29 with 1612 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yet another beheading on 20:01 - Oct 29 by Boundy |
I'm not religious and as in politics its not a subject to have an opinion on unless you're willing to accept others points of view , but the catholic faith for example, how many people died in Africa and continue to die of AIDs and kids becoming orphans because contraception is classed as a sin . A simple condom could save a life but frowned upon because some body in another country ( Italy ) decrees its against god's will [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 20:15]
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Again not really the same thing. They aren’t being denied contraception because they want to kill them. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 20:59 - Oct 29 with 1616 views | Humpty |
| Yet another beheading on 20:01 - Oct 29 by Boundy |
I'm not religious and as in politics its not a subject to have an opinion on unless you're willing to accept others points of view , but the catholic faith for example, how many people died in Africa and continue to die of AIDs and kids becoming orphans because contraception is classed as a sin . A simple condom could save a life but frowned upon because some body in another country ( Italy ) decrees its against god's will [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 20:15]
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It's not just Catholics. Under Bush the US would only give aid to HIV prevention programmes if they preached abstinence instead of the far more effective use of condoms.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/aug/30/usa.aids#:~:text=In%202003%2C%20Pr |  | | |
| Yet another beheading on 21:02 - Oct 29 with 1614 views | Boundy |
| Yet another beheading on 20:48 - Oct 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Again not really the same thing. They aren’t being denied contraception because they want to kill them. |
Simplistic maybe but people are dying because of someone's beliefs so I would say its the same thing no matter how you interpret it . | |
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| Yet another beheading on 23:26 - Oct 29 with 1553 views | Andy1300 |
So he was a Tunisian ‘boat immigrant’
How many are landing on our shores!
How many are in Penally? [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 23:27]
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| Yet another beheading on 07:28 - Oct 30 with 1486 views | Dr_Winston |
The Catholic Church was essentially a Caliphate for over a thousand years. No matter who was in power in a particular area they all paid homage to Rome and its Empire. How many millions have died to sate that particular religious sects greed and intolerance? How many still die because of its teachings?
Islam as a religion is about 600 years younger than Christianity. That would put it in the same place as Christianity was in the 1400's. Just about when shit like the Spanish Inquisition was going on in other words.
The problem is those fermenting trouble aren't dealt with properly. Monitoring and imprisoning them doesn't work. De-radicalising them is patchy at best. And as many countries have recently found out, allowing potentially radical nutters in en masse probably can't go on for much longer either without fomenting major public discontent. | |
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