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The Kairo Conundrum on 13:03 - Mar 3 with 2698 views442Dale

Excellent article and analysis. Well worth a read.

One thing to add, would we see a different Mitchell if he was playing in a front two with Bird in some of the remaining fixtures?

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The Kairo Conundrum on 14:09 - Mar 3 with 2583 viewsTalkingSutty

The Kairo Conundrum on 13:03 - Mar 3 by 442Dale

Excellent article and analysis. Well worth a read.

One thing to add, would we see a different Mitchell if he was playing in a front two with Bird in some of the remaining fixtures?


Some good points in all of that but I dont buy into the Sassi/ Hogan example. Sassi was a liability who played a defence splitting forward ball which led to a Mitchell goal, he wasnt notable for his passing ability and Hogan is by far a better defender. If We're relying on a centre half to set up chances for the forwards then the finger needs pointing at the manager. Secondly, i don't think McNultys lack of tactical nouse and flexibility has been highlighted enough. There have been many games when we have created next to no chances throughout the duration and passed up a gilt edged opportunity to put the ball into the penalty area in preference to recycling the ball backwards. Eventually any striker loses the will to gamble in and round the penalty area, i think we see that with Mitchell. Then there is also Devante Rodney who seems to just meander through games, he's the conundrum not Mitchell. To my mind Mitchell is often left alone up front with Rodney out near the wing, he's fighting a loan battle. So i think it's the way the team is set up to play and the adverse risk to losing posession that is the conundrum and not Mitchell. Give him the chances and he'll score goals, he's proved that.
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The Kairo Conundrum on 14:48 - Mar 3 with 2473 viewsAtThePeake

The Kairo Conundrum on 14:09 - Mar 3 by TalkingSutty

Some good points in all of that but I dont buy into the Sassi/ Hogan example. Sassi was a liability who played a defence splitting forward ball which led to a Mitchell goal, he wasnt notable for his passing ability and Hogan is by far a better defender. If We're relying on a centre half to set up chances for the forwards then the finger needs pointing at the manager. Secondly, i don't think McNultys lack of tactical nouse and flexibility has been highlighted enough. There have been many games when we have created next to no chances throughout the duration and passed up a gilt edged opportunity to put the ball into the penalty area in preference to recycling the ball backwards. Eventually any striker loses the will to gamble in and round the penalty area, i think we see that with Mitchell. Then there is also Devante Rodney who seems to just meander through games, he's the conundrum not Mitchell. To my mind Mitchell is often left alone up front with Rodney out near the wing, he's fighting a loan battle. So i think it's the way the team is set up to play and the adverse risk to losing posession that is the conundrum and not Mitchell. Give him the chances and he'll score goals, he's proved that.


I think part of that inflexibility shown by Jim is in part down to Kairo's limitations though. There's little point putting the ball into the penalty area in the air from deep positions when we know Kairo isn't going to convert those kinds of chances - recycling possession and then trying to work the ball into the kind of area where Tobi can put in a low cross is going to be much better for Kairo, but the problem is that every team knows that's what we want to do now. Thankfully Jim seems to have spotted the issue now and signed a player that will give us the opportunity to be more flexible in how we create chances.

Agree that I maybe should have dived deeper into Rodney's role and how little support he's offering. The isolation that Kairo has had in some of the recent games (it was clear to see at Halifax from high up behind the goals just how far away his two fellow forwards are often away from him) is a major part of it as well.

I agree with your last point - give him the chances and he'll score goals - I just think it's only specific types of chances that he wants and that narrows down our options dramatically.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 14:51 - Mar 3 with 2463 viewsAtThePeake

The Kairo Conundrum on 13:03 - Mar 3 by 442Dale

Excellent article and analysis. Well worth a read.

One thing to add, would we see a different Mitchell if he was playing in a front two with Bird in some of the remaining fixtures?


Did he play in a front two with Mitchell a few times towards the end of last season to little effect or did I imagine that?

Either way, Bird is clearly a different type of striker to Rodney... it might be worth a try. Not that the shape will ever change.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 15:03 - Mar 3 with 2426 viewsTalkingSutty

The Kairo Conundrum on 14:48 - Mar 3 by AtThePeake

I think part of that inflexibility shown by Jim is in part down to Kairo's limitations though. There's little point putting the ball into the penalty area in the air from deep positions when we know Kairo isn't going to convert those kinds of chances - recycling possession and then trying to work the ball into the kind of area where Tobi can put in a low cross is going to be much better for Kairo, but the problem is that every team knows that's what we want to do now. Thankfully Jim seems to have spotted the issue now and signed a player that will give us the opportunity to be more flexible in how we create chances.

Agree that I maybe should have dived deeper into Rodney's role and how little support he's offering. The isolation that Kairo has had in some of the recent games (it was clear to see at Halifax from high up behind the goals just how far away his two fellow forwards are often away from him) is a major part of it as well.

I agree with your last point - give him the chances and he'll score goals - I just think it's only specific types of chances that he wants and that narrows down our options dramatically.


Yes, all fair points those. It does beg the question though ,why has it taken until the last third of the season for McNulty to bring a alternative like Bird into the club? We've been crying out for a physical presence up front all season, somebody who can hold the ball up and bring others into play. Two forwards who can play off each other. You need it in this league, Fondop is a great example at Oldham.


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The Kairo Conundrum on 15:10 - Mar 3 with 2392 viewsdingdangblue

Bird was the difference for me on Saturday. Touch,awareness,strength. That first goal he controlled a difficult bouncing ball, turned around 3 defenders and buried his shot without hesitation. The 2nd goal all started from him holding off the defender from Waller's long kick, controlling the ball and laying off to Rodney. We wouldn't have scored either with Mitchell. He showed when he came on he miscontrolled one pass and ended up getting booked for lunging in trying to make up for his poor touch. Its a harsh world but unless Mitchell improves his all round game he can go at the end of the season for me - no number of 6 yard tap ins will change that.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 15:29 - Mar 3 with 2291 viewsTalkingSutty

The Kairo Conundrum on 15:10 - Mar 3 by dingdangblue

Bird was the difference for me on Saturday. Touch,awareness,strength. That first goal he controlled a difficult bouncing ball, turned around 3 defenders and buried his shot without hesitation. The 2nd goal all started from him holding off the defender from Waller's long kick, controlling the ball and laying off to Rodney. We wouldn't have scored either with Mitchell. He showed when he came on he miscontrolled one pass and ended up getting booked for lunging in trying to make up for his poor touch. Its a harsh world but unless Mitchell improves his all round game he can go at the end of the season for me - no number of 6 yard tap ins will change that.


He'll score twenty goals this season, you don't give goalscorers away.
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The Kairo Conundrum on 15:36 - Mar 3 with 2267 viewsdingdangblue

The Kairo Conundrum on 15:29 - Mar 3 by TalkingSutty

He'll score twenty goals this season, you don't give goalscorers away.


Wont he be free anyway? End of his 2 year contract.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 15:41 - Mar 3 with 2251 viewsTalkingSutty

The Kairo Conundrum on 15:36 - Mar 3 by dingdangblue

Wont he be free anyway? End of his 2 year contract.


We offer him a new contract hopefully.
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The Kairo Conundrum on 16:13 - Mar 3 with 2140 viewsDuckegg

The conundrum for is Rodney..

Watching Dale on Dazn and Rodney isnt the same player since his illness last season.
We all know that Rodney signed a 2yr deal in summer 2024 but if Dale can get a hold of Bird( if out of contract) then Rodney can go...
From saturdays game Bird looks a strong and physical player which is what Dale need..
As for Kairo will he sign another deal!
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The Kairo Conundrum on 16:24 - Mar 3 with 2102 viewsAtThePeake

The Kairo Conundrum on 15:03 - Mar 3 by TalkingSutty

Yes, all fair points those. It does beg the question though ,why has it taken until the last third of the season for McNulty to bring a alternative like Bird into the club? We've been crying out for a physical presence up front all season, somebody who can hold the ball up and bring others into play. Two forwards who can play off each other. You need it in this league, Fondop is a great example at Oldham.


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The only thing I disagree with there is that I think we've been crying out for it since the start of last season rather than this one!

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The Kairo Conundrum on 17:05 - Mar 3 with 1972 viewsmikehunt

But Rodney looked interested on Saturday. That's what I was hoping we would get every game. If he can produce like that game in, game out we would be daft to let him go. An uninterested Rodney though .......

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The Kairo Conundrum on 17:08 - Mar 3 with 1956 viewsisitme

The Kairo Conundrum on 17:05 - Mar 3 by mikehunt

But Rodney looked interested on Saturday. That's what I was hoping we would get every game. If he can produce like that game in, game out we would be daft to let him go. An uninterested Rodney though .......


That is the frustrating thing. He should be dominating in this league.
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The Kairo Conundrum on 17:20 - Mar 3 with 1904 viewsDale_4_Life

Kairo is still young / a bit raw, learning and developing.

He is pulling on a blue shirt and has my backing but there are two Kairo Mitchells.

The one we like is more direct and gets powerful shots away that are on target... that gives him the maximum chance of a goal.. On Saturday against Alty he did win a few arial duels as well and generally put himself about when he came on.

The Kairo that's on his own up front and nothing sticking, not bringing runners into the game and generally looking a little short in several number 9 departments is not such a fan favourite..

A conundrum indeed but one that can be sorted with Jim playing the lad to his strengths.
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The Kairo Conundrum on 17:25 - Mar 3 with 1884 viewsdingdangblue

The Kairo Conundrum on 17:08 - Mar 3 by isitme

That is the frustrating thing. He should be dominating in this league.


Maybe his body wont allow it? You can tell normally what kind of game Rodney is going to have after a few minutes.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 18:50 - Mar 3 with 1685 views442Dale

The Kairo Conundrum on 17:20 - Mar 3 by Dale_4_Life

Kairo is still young / a bit raw, learning and developing.

He is pulling on a blue shirt and has my backing but there are two Kairo Mitchells.

The one we like is more direct and gets powerful shots away that are on target... that gives him the maximum chance of a goal.. On Saturday against Alty he did win a few arial duels as well and generally put himself about when he came on.

The Kairo that's on his own up front and nothing sticking, not bringing runners into the game and generally looking a little short in several number 9 departments is not such a fan favourite..

A conundrum indeed but one that can be sorted with Jim playing the lad to his strengths.
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He’s 27. There’s a lot about Mitchell that could be good, his goals prove that, but as far as learning to play the role he’s had enough experience to get that by now. So we need to look how to get more from the attributes he does have.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 19:52 - Mar 3 with 1518 viewsnordenblue

The Kairo Conundrum on 17:25 - Mar 3 by dingdangblue

Maybe his body wont allow it? You can tell normally what kind of game Rodney is going to have after a few minutes.


Rodney doesn't offer anywhere near what his physicality suggests, his touch is decent for that type of player but his finishing can be abysmal at times, he seems to be one of them annoying players that does better the harder the chance is and the less time he has to think
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The Kairo Conundrum on 19:58 - Mar 3 with 1490 viewsjudd

The Kairo Conundrum on 18:50 - Mar 3 by 442Dale

He’s 27. There’s a lot about Mitchell that could be good, his goals prove that, but as far as learning to play the role he’s had enough experience to get that by now. So we need to look how to get more from the attributes he does have.


Kairo doesn't have much time to progress up the pyramid.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 20:37 - Mar 3 with 1378 views442Dale

The Kairo Conundrum on 19:58 - Mar 3 by judd

Kairo doesn't have much time to progress up the pyramid.


Who knows? Nile Ranger’s career went in the opposite direction.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 20:45 - Mar 3 with 1352 viewsjudd

The Kairo Conundrum on 20:37 - Mar 3 by 442Dale

Who knows? Nile Ranger’s career went in the opposite direction.


Common sense did desert him. Lost in the wilderness.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 20:46 - Mar 3 with 1342 views442Dale

The Kairo Conundrum on 20:45 - Mar 3 by judd

Common sense did desert him. Lost in the wilderness.


Luxory player.

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The Kairo Conundrum on 21:17 - Mar 3 with 1252 viewsjudd

The Kairo Conundrum on 20:46 - Mar 3 by 442Dale

Luxory player.


Pharaoh enough. He was bordering on Gaza

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The Kairo Conundrum on 21:22 - Mar 3 with 1224 viewsD_Alien

We need to get TAR delivering those crosses into him again, just like Trent Alexandria-Arnold

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The Kairo Conundrum on 06:06 - Mar 4 with 839 viewsDale_4_Life

The Kairo Conundrum on 21:22 - Mar 3 by D_Alien

We need to get TAR delivering those crosses into him again, just like Trent Alexandria-Arnold


I agree but when TAR fizzes the ball across the face of goal we need at least on forward arriving on time to pop it into the back of the net.
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The Kairo Conundrum on 06:22 - Mar 4 with 813 viewsD_Alien

The Kairo Conundrum on 06:06 - Mar 4 by Dale_4_Life

I agree but when TAR fizzes the ball across the face of goal we need at least on forward arriving on time to pop it into the back of the net.


Yep, that's what's happened when Dale aswan

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