| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor 23:05 - Jan 21 with 8192 views | smuttsontour |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:08 - Jan 21 with 5001 views | connell10 |
If he did send back to Newcastle. |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:14 - Jan 21 with 4845 views | stowmarketrange |
It’s a bit embarrassing to get subbed on and then off again a few minutes later so I can understand his frustration,but I thought Marti made those 2nd subs 5 minutes too early anyway. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:23 - Jan 21 with 4706 views | golborne |
Might be frustrated at picking up an injury. Who knows, but he did give the ball away twice in the run up to the goal and more before that. Just couldn’t get on his game for some reason | | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:26 - Jan 21 with 4591 views | bosh67 |
Against the grain I think the guy has a lot of talent but not a lot of confidence. I think that is why he is really struggling at the moment. Earlier in the season he was hitting some glorious cross field passes. Perhaps he needs a bit of an arm around him. Yes, I know he is 23 but he's still a young player. |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:27 - Jan 21 with 4569 views | FredManRave |
Not fit?! |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 00:21 - Jan 22 with 4319 views | smuttsontour |
Kick in the teeth | | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 00:24 - Jan 22 with 4288 views | Northernr |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:26 - Jan 21 by bosh67 |
Against the grain I think the guy has a lot of talent but not a lot of confidence. I think that is why he is really struggling at the moment. Earlier in the season he was hitting some glorious cross field passes. Perhaps he needs a bit of an arm around him. Yes, I know he is 23 but he's still a young player. |
I actually think it's completely the opposite way around - waaaaaay too confident in his own ability, body can't cash the cheques his mind writes. Just needs to keep it simple and build from there. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 00:41 - Jan 22 with 4184 views | connell10 |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 00:24 - Jan 22 by Northernr |
I actually think it's completely the opposite way around - waaaaaay too confident in his own ability, body can't cash the cheques his mind writes. Just needs to keep it simple and build from there. |
He is a strange player, his body shape when he traps a ball seems all wrong and then some times he has a flash of good football. I'd honestly send him back if we can and see if we can get someone outta the youth team to replace him or another loan player. It just isn't working for him here. | |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 01:32 - Jan 22 with 3997 views | numptydumpty |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 23:26 - Jan 21 by bosh67 |
Against the grain I think the guy has a lot of talent but not a lot of confidence. I think that is why he is really struggling at the moment. Earlier in the season he was hitting some glorious cross field passes. Perhaps he needs a bit of an arm around him. Yes, I know he is 23 but he's still a young player. |
He has a lot of confidence for me, but because of this often takes the difficult option when it's not necessary.
He looks the part and has pace but he misses tackles and has a habit of trying the difficult pass that the opposition very often intercept.
He went off due to injury and I think thats why the frustration. |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 01:39 - Jan 22 with 3963 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 00:24 - Jan 22 by Northernr |
I actually think it's completely the opposite way around - waaaaaay too confident in his own ability, body can't cash the cheques his mind writes. Just needs to keep it simple and build from there. |
There was one incident in the game that rather sums him up. In the final third he tried a couple of tricks to play in an overlapping teammate, got it all wrong and set Hull on their way. At least today it was in the final third rather than the defensive third but someone really has to get a grip of this boy, bring him down a peg or two, and teach him to focus on the doing the basics well. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 02:53 - Jan 22 with 3813 views | Hooparoo |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 00:24 - Jan 22 by Northernr |
I actually think it's completely the opposite way around - waaaaaay too confident in his own ability, body can't cash the cheques his mind writes. Just needs to keep it simple and build from there. |
Agree Clive. Mr Billy Big Bollox 😬 |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 06:03 - Jan 22 with 3511 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
To me he looks like he is over trying. If he is out of contract in May, he is currently on a season long trial with us, which might explain why he tries the more difficult option.
He needs to take a step back. He would be far more effective just doing the simple things and keeping the ball.
I think there is a player in there, and he must have a good attitude else MC or Nourry wouldn't have him around, he just needs to stop trying to play like Alexander-Arnold. | | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 06:10 - Jan 22 with 3495 views | silky |
I'm not keen on him at all and I fundamentally don't know why.
Just doesn't seem to fit in. He's helped when needed but I wouldn't be signing him at the end of the season if offered. |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 06:57 - Jan 22 with 3299 views | Lblock |
I didn’t see him throwing his shirt on the floor —- for those that did can they confirm the jersey hit the floor or did he miss that as well? |  |
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:04 - Jan 22 with 3247 views | Hunterhoop |
I said a couple of weeks ago that I think he’ll end up playing in League 2. Does some properly strange things (catching the ball in play, leaving it when in play thinking it’s gone out, bombing forward with no cover) which are a little odd even in context. But I also just think he’s not actually that good at football, technically. He gives it away a lot. I think he’s one of these academy boys who has been made to look a lot better than he is by being surrounded by other talented young boys at youth level. Because he plays full back, some of his technical deficiencies have been missed, because he has the physique and appearance of a footballer.
He has had the odd game where he has out in some good challenges and looked fine, but there is something about him, I’m not sure of. I think he’s gradually getting found out and think that may continue for a league or two. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:12 - Jan 22 with 3165 views | dmm |
Without wanting to pile on the lad, it's his passing that gets me. He constantly fails to find a teammate. His successful passes stat must be very low and that's something that'll drive Marti mad. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:14 - Jan 22 with 3151 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:04 - Jan 22 by Hunterhoop |
I said a couple of weeks ago that I think he’ll end up playing in League 2. Does some properly strange things (catching the ball in play, leaving it when in play thinking it’s gone out, bombing forward with no cover) which are a little odd even in context. But I also just think he’s not actually that good at football, technically. He gives it away a lot. I think he’s one of these academy boys who has been made to look a lot better than he is by being surrounded by other talented young boys at youth level. Because he plays full back, some of his technical deficiencies have been missed, because he has the physique and appearance of a footballer.
He has had the odd game where he has out in some good challenges and looked fine, but there is something about him, I’m not sure of. I think he’s gradually getting found out and think that may continue for a league or two. |
In fairness he bombs forward with no cover as that is what he is asked to do. High risk, high reward. | | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:15 - Jan 22 with 3147 views | priceyparkrangers |
To put it simply, he’s not good enough.
And worse than that, he’s unreliable and actually undoes the hard work of his team mates by giving the ball away constantly, and messing about trying tricks that put us in trouble.
He’s not a kid, he’s 23. 4-5 years older than the likes of Lloyd, Kolli and Morgan.
He’s also not ours. He’s here on loan from a premiership club.
I don’t know if we can even send him back, it’s not always an option, but I get the feeling Marti is done with the guy and we may not see him again. | | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:24 - Jan 22 with 3082 views | daveB |
He's 23 but has only started 32 Championship games in his career and less than 50 games overall
Agree with Clive hes far too over confident tries little chops, elaborate touches and shoots from miles out, he needs to get the basics right |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:27 - Jan 22 with 3048 views | WokingR |
In his defence, at least we're talking about him, so there must have been some involvement in the game.
Did anyone realise Madsen was even on the pitch ? |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:39 - Jan 22 with 2966 views | daveB |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:27 - Jan 22 by WokingR |
In his defence, at least we're talking about him, so there must have been some involvement in the game.
Did anyone realise Madsen was even on the pitch ? |
Yeah he came on and was eager to make an impression but got almost everything wrong | | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:45 - Jan 22 with 2920 views | Hoopstar |
I was actually watching Madsen with a lot of interest (albeit via the QPR+ coverage from my Tuesday home in Belgium) and he seemed to put himself about a bit. Not a lot going forward but he put a few challenges in and cleared a couple in our box - definitely looked like he was working a bit harder. Perhaps watching Morgan has shown him what he needs to do but he is miles off him as an athlete so never going to be able to replicate that. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 08:22 - Jan 22 with 2671 views | nix |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 07:45 - Jan 22 by Hoopstar |
I was actually watching Madsen with a lot of interest (albeit via the QPR+ coverage from my Tuesday home in Belgium) and he seemed to put himself about a bit. Not a lot going forward but he put a few challenges in and cleared a couple in our box - definitely looked like he was working a bit harder. Perhaps watching Morgan has shown him what he needs to do but he is miles off him as an athlete so never going to be able to replicate that. |
I agree. The difference being he wasn't a liability.
Ashby really is and in serial matches. I thought when he came on Marti had thought he'd give him some minutes higher up the pitch where he can do less damage to make up for the Leicester catastrophe and rebuild confidence. The main issue with him is he doesn't learn from his mistakes, which is worrying for him. We've all been saying he needs to just focus on doing the basics better, avoid the grandstanding and thereby eliminate the mistakes. If we've all been saying it then sure as hell Marti has too.
But instead he comes on, tries the difficult/dangerous pass again and again, playing us into the same trouble as at Leicester. Luckily Hull has nowhere near the talent Leicester forwards have and didn't punish us. He also shot when he should have passed. Now if you're Illias Chair or Sam Field with a lot of credit in the bank you can get away with it for a game or two. An Academy boy on loan not so much.
I thought Madsen looked like he was making an effort, not actively doing anything wrong and making a decent block and closing people down, which is probably what Marti asked him to do.
I just genuinely can't see us risking Ashby. Unless we need to play him a certain number of minutes to avoid a humungous additional payment (gasp). Whatever I think we won't ask Jamie Reuben to do us any more favours. |  | | |
| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 08:32 - Jan 22 with 2569 views | Ad99 |
It's the passing. Reminds me of Terrell Forbes. [Post edited 22 Jan 8:32]
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| Ashby throwing the jersey to the floor on 08:35 - Jan 22 with 2531 views | CamberleyR |
Hopefully they have another player already lined up and are tearing up his loan contract as we speak. |  |
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