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Elgin marbles 19:51 - Dec 3 with 1787 viewsKilkennyjack

Our Greek friends have waited long enough.

Time to return the stolen goods. 🇬🇷🏛️

No real debate shirley …?

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Elgin marbles on 20:11 - Dec 3 with 1014 viewsLuther27

Agree. But why limit it to the Elgin Marbles. There’s at least a couple of million other items that should be returned to their points of origin. Just saying.
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Elgin marbles on 20:38 - Dec 3 with 986 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

If the marbles had not been removed when they had they almost certainly would have been destroyed forever. The Greeks couldn’t look after them, the Parthenon was little more than a ruin at the time after a load of munitions exploded and had been used as a mosque for the best part of 350 years.

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Elgin marbles on 20:54 - Dec 3 with 971 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Time for all the Irish Americans to return to Ireland and give American back to the native Americans.

Time to return stolen lands

No debate Shirley?

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Elgin marbles on 21:00 - Dec 3 with 964 viewsSullutaCreturned

There are a lot of countries that have things from other countries that they should return. Kilky never really worries about those cases though, he just likes to bash the UK government.
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Elgin marbles on 21:12 - Dec 3 with 957 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Elgin marbles on 21:00 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned

There are a lot of countries that have things from other countries that they should return. Kilky never really worries about those cases though, he just likes to bash the UK government.


Perhaps the IRA could return the bodies of executed soldiers.

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Elgin marbles on 21:33 - Dec 3 with 926 viewsBoundy

Elgin marbles on 21:12 - Dec 3 by felixstowe_jack

Perhaps the IRA could return the bodies of executed soldiers.


or just as importantly the "disappeared" families destroyed like Jean McConville's

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Elgin marbles on 23:08 - Dec 3 with 895 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 20:11 - Dec 3 by Luther27

Agree. But why limit it to the Elgin Marbles. There’s at least a couple of million other items that should be returned to their points of origin. Just saying.


Great point.

Fair is fair.

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Elgin marbles on 23:11 - Dec 3 with 892 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 20:54 - Dec 3 by felixstowe_jack

Time for all the Irish Americans to return to Ireland and give American back to the native Americans.

Time to return stolen lands

No debate Shirley?


Well they sort of left Ireland without much choice, google ‘coffin ships’ ….

But i fully support the return of lands to the native Americans. Well said.

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Elgin marbles on 23:12 - Dec 3 with 889 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 20:38 - Dec 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

If the marbles had not been removed when they had they almost certainly would have been destroyed forever. The Greeks couldn’t look after them, the Parthenon was little more than a ruin at the time after a load of munitions exploded and had been used as a mosque for the best part of 350 years.


Point is ….. it’s time to give them back.

They can create some pretend plastic ones instead for London, jobs a good un.

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Elgin marbles on 23:13 - Dec 3 with 887 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 21:00 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned

There are a lot of countries that have things from other countries that they should return. Kilky never really worries about those cases though, he just likes to bash the UK government.


I am supporting these moves by the UK govt.

Are you drunk ?

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Elgin marbles on 06:37 - Dec 4 with 845 viewsScotia

Elgin marbles on 20:11 - Dec 3 by Luther27

Agree. But why limit it to the Elgin Marbles. There’s at least a couple of million other items that should be returned to their points of origin. Just saying.


The Red lady of Paviland should definitely be in Swansea museum.
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Elgin marbles on 08:17 - Dec 4 with 822 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Elgin marbles on 23:11 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack

Well they sort of left Ireland without much choice, google ‘coffin ships’ ….

But i fully support the return of lands to the native Americans. Well said.


Do you support the IRA returning the bodies of executed captured British soldiers ?

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Elgin marbles on 08:20 - Dec 4 with 822 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 06:37 - Dec 4 by Scotia

The Red lady of Paviland should definitely be in Swansea museum.


Great idea.

And this can go back to north Wales ….


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Elgin marbles on 08:21 - Dec 4 with 820 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 08:17 - Dec 4 by felixstowe_jack

Do you support the IRA returning the bodies of executed captured British soldiers ?


Start your own thread. Thank you.

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Elgin marbles on 09:54 - Dec 4 with 789 viewsraynor94

Elgin marbles on 08:21 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack

Start your own thread. Thank you.


A sidestep Phil Bennett would have been proud of

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Elgin marbles on 11:28 - Dec 4 with 762 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Brought by a Jock, who went bankrupt and they ended up in the British Museum thanks to the British Government.
This is a Scottish problem. ( I think that's how it goes these days ?).

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Elgin marbles on 16:06 - Dec 4 with 715 viewsAnotherJohn

Elgin marbles on 09:54 - Dec 4 by raynor94

A sidestep Phil Bennett would have been proud of


But Phil's sidesteps were harder to see coming.
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Elgin marbles on 16:45 - Dec 4 with 699 viewsraynor94

Elgin marbles on 16:06 - Dec 4 by AnotherJohn

But Phil's sidesteps were harder to see coming.


😉👍

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 with 687 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 11:28 - Dec 4 by JACKMANANDBOY

Brought by a Jock, who went bankrupt and they ended up in the British Museum thanks to the British Government.
This is a Scottish problem. ( I think that's how it goes these days ?).


So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items.
We are all agreed then.
Good.

What about reparations for the theft ?
Has to be i think.
Lovely people the Greeks 🇬🇷.

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Elgin marbles on 17:33 - Dec 4 with 664 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack

So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items.
We are all agreed then.
Good.

What about reparations for the theft ?
Has to be i think.
Lovely people the Greeks 🇬🇷.


Some arguments for and against in here. If it was up to me I'd move the Parthenon, it's on top of a hill and bloody hot in summer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/67552622

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Elgin marbles on 17:55 - Dec 4 with 658 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack

So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items.
We are all agreed then.
Good.

What about reparations for the theft ?
Has to be i think.
Lovely people the Greeks 🇬🇷.


Stolen? They were removed with permission from the ottomans.

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Elgin marbles on 18:51 - Dec 4 with 634 viewsSullutaCreturned

Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack

So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items.
We are all agreed then.
Good.

What about reparations for the theft ?
Has to be i think.
Lovely people the Greeks 🇬🇷.


At the time Elgin removed them, it was to poreserve them. Elgin was worried that the Ottoman Empire, which ruled Greece at the time, would be indifferent to the damage of important artworks in the temples.

As for reparations, are YOU drunk? Returning them should be enough. After all they would likely have been destroyed if they had been left there. We should never have kept them, they should have gone back decades ago.
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Elgin marbles on 08:38 - Dec 5 with 591 viewsKilkennyjack

Elgin marbles on 18:51 - Dec 4 by SullutaCreturned

At the time Elgin removed them, it was to poreserve them. Elgin was worried that the Ottoman Empire, which ruled Greece at the time, would be indifferent to the damage of important artworks in the temples.

As for reparations, are YOU drunk? Returning them should be enough. After all they would likely have been destroyed if they had been left there. We should never have kept them, they should have gone back decades ago.


I agree with you.

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Elgin marbles on 08:45 - Dec 5 with 579 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack

So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items.
We are all agreed then.
Good.

What about reparations for the theft ?
Has to be i think.
Lovely people the Greeks 🇬🇷.


Wonder if the Romans will pay reparations and return all the gold they stole from Britannia Plus reparations for all the slave they transported

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Elgin marbles on 09:21 - Dec 5 with 560 viewsBoundy

Elgin marbles on 17:14 - Dec 4 by Kilkennyjack

So not one argument why the UK government should retain these stolen items.
We are all agreed then.
Good.

What about reparations for the theft ?
Has to be i think.
Lovely people the Greeks 🇬🇷.


Just to be clear , they were not stolen and the British Museum has the proof of deeds provided to them 200 years ago .

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