| Are we really waiting 13:03 - Nov 13 with 1464 views | grumpy |
to lose a few more games before we make changes?
I really thought after the Wolves game that was it for Martin,so after 3 days nothing of the sort.
Are we really going to give Martin money in January?
I have never been as depressed as a Saints fan,not even in The Branfoot era.
The euphoria of that day at Wembley has drained away................ |  | | |  |
| Are we really waiting on 13:35 - Nov 13 with 1395 views | saintwizzler |
He’s going nowhere.
This time next season when we are hovering around the top 6 in The Championship under Russ all this talk of sackings will be forgotten.
TRUST THE PROCESS
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| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Are we really waiting on 13:44 - Nov 13 with 1380 views | TripleNiemi |
Ah, Hurlock, Dixon, Speedie……….. |  |
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| Are we really waiting on 13:50 - Nov 13 with 1358 views | PatfromPoole |
The “change” will be a replacement for Wilcox as Director of Football.
This will be the cheaper “fix”.
Though it will of course fix nothing.
I suspect the “plan” may be relegation, hope that Martin gets us back up, and then sack him straight away after that.
His pay-off will be a lot less then. |  |
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| Are we really waiting on 14:21 - Nov 13 with 1326 views | Ifonly |
| Are we really waiting on 13:50 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
The “change” will be a replacement for Wilcox as Director of Football.
This will be the cheaper “fix”.
Though it will of course fix nothing.
I suspect the “plan” may be relegation, hope that Martin gets us back up, and then sack him straight away after that.
His pay-off will be a lot less then. |
If the new DOF is another idiot who worships at the alter of Pep, then it is worse than doing nothing. It will mean that RM's replacement will also have us playing possession football, and will be destined to fail in the PL, if he ever gets there, for exactly the same reasons that RM is failing.
A new DOF can be expected to be Ankersen's man, just like Wilcox and RM were, and that means that we're probably destined for several more years of this. We'll be better off if they don't appoint a DOF until they've worked out why things are going wrong and who is to blame.
As for the expense of sacking RM, this is reported as being "as much as £10m" i.e. in reality a lot less than £10m. There is no reason for a pay off. Just keep him on the payroll sitting at home until the summer and he will resign of his own accord. At least that's what a switched on club would do, but a switched on club wouldn't have given him a fecking 3 year contract extension for no reason in the first place. |  | | |
| Are we really waiting on 14:28 - Nov 13 with 1301 views | PatfromPoole |
| Are we really waiting on 14:21 - Nov 13 by Ifonly |
If the new DOF is another idiot who worships at the alter of Pep, then it is worse than doing nothing. It will mean that RM's replacement will also have us playing possession football, and will be destined to fail in the PL, if he ever gets there, for exactly the same reasons that RM is failing.
A new DOF can be expected to be Ankersen's man, just like Wilcox and RM were, and that means that we're probably destined for several more years of this. We'll be better off if they don't appoint a DOF until they've worked out why things are going wrong and who is to blame.
As for the expense of sacking RM, this is reported as being "as much as £10m" i.e. in reality a lot less than £10m. There is no reason for a pay off. Just keep him on the payroll sitting at home until the summer and he will resign of his own accord. At least that's what a switched on club would do, but a switched on club wouldn't have given him a fecking 3 year contract extension for no reason in the first place. |
But he could just stay at home for two and a half years on £75k a week and play with Lucy Pinder’s fun bags.
Why would anybody go to work in that predicament? | |
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| Are we really waiting on 14:39 - Nov 13 with 1278 views | Ifonly |
| Are we really waiting on 14:28 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
But he could just stay at home for two and a half years on £75k a week and play with Lucy Pinder’s fun bags.
Why would anybody go to work in that predicament? |
Because she'd end up telling him to feck off out of the house and get a job | | | |
| Are we really waiting on 15:04 - Nov 13 with 1228 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Are we really waiting on 14:21 - Nov 13 by Ifonly |
If the new DOF is another idiot who worships at the alter of Pep, then it is worse than doing nothing. It will mean that RM's replacement will also have us playing possession football, and will be destined to fail in the PL, if he ever gets there, for exactly the same reasons that RM is failing.
A new DOF can be expected to be Ankersen's man, just like Wilcox and RM were, and that means that we're probably destined for several more years of this. We'll be better off if they don't appoint a DOF until they've worked out why things are going wrong and who is to blame.
As for the expense of sacking RM, this is reported as being "as much as £10m" i.e. in reality a lot less than £10m. There is no reason for a pay off. Just keep him on the payroll sitting at home until the summer and he will resign of his own accord. At least that's what a switched on club would do, but a switched on club wouldn't have given him a fecking 3 year contract extension for no reason in the first place. |
Ankersen?
It's becoming evident that his name must begin with a silent 'W'... |  |
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| Are we really waiting on 16:05 - Nov 13 with 1155 views | Ifonly |
| Are we really waiting on 14:28 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
But he could just stay at home for two and a half years on £75k a week and play with Lucy Pinder’s fun bags.
Why would anybody go to work in that predicament? |
I should add that the main reason he'd go back to work is for his own career. If he's out of the game for 3 years he'll be a forgotten man. Managers (especially young managers with little track record) don't tend to go away for that long and come back. If they're not back in a year the chances are they won't be back at all.
Also, if SFC still employ him they can insist that he has no contact with football apart from job interviews and watching it on TV. They can also insist that he remains available during working hours. As a young man used to being busy, it wouldn't be long before he went stir crazy. | | | |
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| Are we really waiting on 16:07 - Nov 13 with 1142 views | PatfromPoole |
| Are we really waiting on 16:05 - Nov 13 by Ifonly |
I should add that the main reason he'd go back to work is for his own career. If he's out of the game for 3 years he'll be a forgotten man. Managers (especially young managers with little track record) don't tend to go away for that long and come back. If they're not back in a year the chances are they won't be back at all.
Also, if SFC still employ him they can insist that he has no contact with football apart from job interviews and watching it on TV. They can also insist that he remains available during working hours. As a young man used to being busy, it wouldn't be long before he went stir crazy. |
Hassenhutl seems to have done OK with his extended break and then getting a gig in the Bundesliga.
Much to Saintwizzler’s satisfaction. | |
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| Are we really waiting on 16:46 - Nov 13 with 1116 views | Ifonly |
| Are we really waiting on 16:07 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
Hassenhutl seems to have done OK with his extended break and then getting a gig in the Bundesliga.
Much to Saintwizzler’s satisfaction. |
Yes but he had a track record of success. What does RM have if he's relieved of his duties now?
Also, from the manager's side, RH was mentally burned out and talking openly about retirement before he was sacked. There's no way he would have jumped into a new manager's job at that time. It's a different situation with RM. | | | |
| Are we really waiting on 17:19 - Nov 13 with 1055 views | Ifonly |
| Are we really waiting on 16:07 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
Hassenhutl seems to have done OK with his extended break and then getting a gig in the Bundesliga.
Much to Saintwizzler’s satisfaction. |
Thought I'd check when RH joined Wolfsburg - he started 1 year 5 months after being sacked by us - and that was considered a long time out of the game.
When doing that I noticed this quote from him about how he thought the game should be played: "When you have the ball, find a quick decision, quick transition to the front. It's about being emotional, being full of passion. Also, keep the tempo on a high level and don't slow down the game. That's what I think the people want to see."
He'd run out of energy at Saints, but boy it would be good to see some of that style again instead of the turgid dross we have to put up with. | | | |
| Are we really waiting on 18:11 - Nov 13 with 962 views | TripleNiemi |
| Are we really waiting on 16:46 - Nov 13 by Ifonly |
Yes but he had a track record of success. What does RM have if he's relieved of his duties now?
Also, from the manager's side, RH was mentally burned out and talking openly about retirement before he was sacked. There's no way he would have jumped into a new manager's job at that time. It's a different situation with RM. |
Only thing likely to face burn out with Rylan is his hairdryer | |
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| Are we really waiting on 19:04 - Nov 13 with 900 views | saintwizzler |
| Are we really waiting on 17:19 - Nov 13 by Ifonly |
Thought I'd check when RH joined Wolfsburg - he started 1 year 5 months after being sacked by us - and that was considered a long time out of the game.
When doing that I noticed this quote from him about how he thought the game should be played: "When you have the ball, find a quick decision, quick transition to the front. It's about being emotional, being full of passion. Also, keep the tempo on a high level and don't slow down the game. That's what I think the people want to see."
He'd run out of energy at Saints, but boy it would be good to see some of that style again instead of the turgid dross we have to put up with. |
His 9-0 record(s) is seriously under threat. | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Are we really waiting on 19:15 - Nov 13 with 884 views | sledger |
| Are we really waiting on 14:21 - Nov 13 by Ifonly |
If the new DOF is another idiot who worships at the alter of Pep, then it is worse than doing nothing. It will mean that RM's replacement will also have us playing possession football, and will be destined to fail in the PL, if he ever gets there, for exactly the same reasons that RM is failing.
A new DOF can be expected to be Ankersen's man, just like Wilcox and RM were, and that means that we're probably destined for several more years of this. We'll be better off if they don't appoint a DOF until they've worked out why things are going wrong and who is to blame.
As for the expense of sacking RM, this is reported as being "as much as £10m" i.e. in reality a lot less than £10m. There is no reason for a pay off. Just keep him on the payroll sitting at home until the summer and he will resign of his own accord. At least that's what a switched on club would do, but a switched on club wouldn't have given him a fecking 3 year contract extension for no reason in the first place. |
we dont pay a lump sum,we pay his contract out over its duration,if he gets another job,payments cease. | | | |
| Are we really waiting on 12:01 - Nov 15 with 597 views | GRIM |
| Are we really waiting on 14:28 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
But he could just stay at home for two and a half years on £75k a week and play with Lucy Pinder’s fun bags.
Why would anybody go to work in that predicament? |
Exactly.
With these ridiculous long contracts that Managers & Players are on, the incentive is to fail.
When they know they are out of their depth & not up to the job they've got, what a lovely option to have, to get sacked & relax on full pay for the rest of your contract. | | | |
| Are we really waiting on 14:07 - Nov 15 with 509 views | DorsetIan |
| Are we really waiting on 14:28 - Nov 13 by PatfromPoole |
But he could just stay at home for two and a half years on £75k a week and play with Lucy Pinder’s fun bags.
Why would anybody go to work in that predicament? |
Like the rest of us, I'm sure she'll soon tire of the 80 minutes of aimless touches before getting anywhere near to the box. | |
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| Are we really waiting on 14:14 - Nov 15 with 494 views | Bridders2 |
| Are we really waiting on 14:07 - Nov 15 by DorsetIan |
Like the rest of us, I'm sure she'll soon tire of the 80 minutes of aimless touches before getting anywhere near to the box. |
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