| Armstrong 17:50 - Feb 11 with 9412 views | WestonsuperR |
I didn’t go today or watch a stream. How did Armstrong do, any signs that he is Championship standard or does he need game time at a lower level? |  | | |  |
| Armstrong on 19:13 - Feb 11 with 2627 views | paulparker |
Apart from Dieng & Dunne he was the only one who seemed up for the fight , he was the one shoulder charging Cooper and Creswell , he was the one who wouldn’t back down or hide
The lad was immense and put the majority of our squad to shame with his guts |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Armstrong on 19:14 - Feb 11 with 2617 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
What Connell said, eccentric.
It’s not a negative I love it. Running to the Khazi randomly after going down with a sore eye then flying back out without the ref or fourth official seeing.
Today was the first time I really saw him play freely and to his strengths. He was probably the only positive of the day. I genuinely think he’s got a future. [Post edited 11 Feb 2023 19:18]
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| Armstrong on 19:18 - Feb 11 with 2581 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
You could see that the game plan was to get the ball into him early on the counter so that he could go 1 on 1 with centre back. Next season, and with everyone in form I think he could be devastating at this level. At the moment though he still has loads to learn, but to do that he has to play as often as possible.
More importantly we, as supporters, need to support him. |  | | |
| Armstrong on 19:19 - Feb 11 with 2577 views | olderR |
| Armstrong on 18:16 - Feb 11 by VancouverHoop |
Yeah, given his age and frame, 'growing pains' may still be a thing. Batting the ball out of the air was pretty dumb though. It's unnecessary card and one that the ref can't ignore. |
I thought he wanted to go off due to embarrassment at his hand of god attempt. |  | | |
| Armstrong on 19:21 - Feb 11 with 2554 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Armstrong on 19:14 - Feb 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
What Connell said, eccentric.
It’s not a negative I love it. Running to the Khazi randomly after going down with a sore eye then flying back out without the ref or fourth official seeing.
Today was the first time I really saw him play freely and to his strengths. He was probably the only positive of the day. I genuinely think he’s got a future. [Post edited 11 Feb 2023 19:18]
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He lost his contact lens, but ok, see what you mean! |  |
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| Armstrong on 19:30 - Feb 11 with 2493 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Armstrong on 19:21 - Feb 11 by Antti_Heinola |
He lost his contact lens, but ok, see what you mean! |
Either way it was theatrical. | | | |
| Armstrong on 19:59 - Feb 11 with 2417 views | connell10 |
| Armstrong on 18:58 - Feb 11 by bollockchops |
not long ago you were Boris Johnsons greatest supporter so anything that comes out of your gob i will take as a load of cat crap |
I always thought it was clap trap I could be wrong js |  |
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| Armstrong on 01:12 - Feb 12 with 2196 views | qpr1976 |
| Armstrong on 19:02 - Feb 11 by traininvain |
Funny as I’ve never voted for Johnson in my life but I do try to keep an open mind and look at things from other perspectives.
Anyway your earlier input to this thread suggests that your username is apt so I’ll leave it here and wish you a good evening, Bollockchops. [Post edited 11 Feb 2023 19:03]
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TBF, no one outside of his party voted him in….. | | | |
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| Armstrong on 01:15 - Feb 12 with 2193 views | qpr1976 |
| Armstrong on 19:19 - Feb 11 by olderR |
I thought he wanted to go off due to embarrassment at his hand of god attempt. |
Yet fans Loved it when Stan did it (albeit he scored, before being chalked off) ! | | | |
| Armstrong on 02:42 - Feb 12 with 2137 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Armstrong on 18:20 - Feb 11 by BrianWilson |
Hyper! Decent Hand of God effort  |
Like I said on the Willock thread that hand of God effort really fuc*ed us IMO.
Once Willock had to be called into action without warming up everything went to hell.
Now CW could be out long term again with his hamstring and Armstrong himself could have pulled something.
If the Management team know Armstrong has only 60 minutes in him why in Gods name did our subs warm up and be on standby .
Love Armstrong but feel that Martin should have started beat up those Millwall giants a bit then bring him on to do chaos and win a penalty or score maybe
Now who knows what happens Tuesday |  | | |
| Armstrong on 06:32 - Feb 12 with 2052 views | Dixie_CT |
| Armstrong on 02:42 - Feb 12 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Like I said on the Willock thread that hand of God effort really fuc*ed us IMO.
Once Willock had to be called into action without warming up everything went to hell.
Now CW could be out long term again with his hamstring and Armstrong himself could have pulled something.
If the Management team know Armstrong has only 60 minutes in him why in Gods name did our subs warm up and be on standby .
Love Armstrong but feel that Martin should have started beat up those Millwall giants a bit then bring him on to do chaos and win a penalty or score maybe
Now who knows what happens Tuesday |
I agree about the handball. Daft, obvious, and embarrassing. Such a shame because Armstrong had played well up until his brain fart.
No excuse for the subs not being warmed up. I glanced over a few times from the Loft to the paddocks and saw Millwall players out there but not many of ours, only Albert when it was obvious that Willock was unable to continue. I’m not sure why.
Our mental fragility is as plain as the nose on your face. It’s like the whole team has PTSD since Wolves wanting Beale became public. The fact we are only now bringing in a psychologist is so reactionary and it pretty much sums up the whole lack of forward planning. |  | | |
| Armstrong on 07:05 - Feb 12 with 2028 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Armstrong on 06:32 - Feb 12 by Dixie_CT |
I agree about the handball. Daft, obvious, and embarrassing. Such a shame because Armstrong had played well up until his brain fart.
No excuse for the subs not being warmed up. I glanced over a few times from the Loft to the paddocks and saw Millwall players out there but not many of ours, only Albert when it was obvious that Willock was unable to continue. I’m not sure why.
Our mental fragility is as plain as the nose on your face. It’s like the whole team has PTSD since Wolves wanting Beale became public. The fact we are only now bringing in a psychologist is so reactionary and it pretty much sums up the whole lack of forward planning. |
If this bunch of players need a psychologist every time a manager departs, then they ain't going to have much of a career! In fact, their agents might be better off sounding out Shenley Old Boys F. C. or Broadmoor Staff F.C. in the summer.
It's part and parcel of football: managers and players come and go, professionals get on with it. |  |
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| Armstrong on 07:12 - Feb 12 with 2005 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Armstrong on 07:05 - Feb 12 by PlanetHonneywood |
If this bunch of players need a psychologist every time a manager departs, then they ain't going to have much of a career! In fact, their agents might be better off sounding out Shenley Old Boys F. C. or Broadmoor Staff F.C. in the summer.
It's part and parcel of football: managers and players come and go, professionals get on with it. |
I was having this conversation with distortR.
Maybe I'm wrong, but the athletes that I know tend to be resilient and singular to the point of even appearing callous. They can be effected by losses in their own form and confidence, but rarely about events outside their control. They have to be like this. Best mate dropped? Another one injured? Manager sacked? They soon forget. It's always about refocussing, controlling what they can control and always about moving on.
That being said, on a general note, I like the use of a sports psychologist/performance coach at any time. Really helpful addition, I always think. Just not sure our players should be so greviously wounded by Beale's lack of ethics.
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| Armstrong on 08:04 - Feb 12 with 1927 views | QPROslo |
| Armstrong on 02:42 - Feb 12 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Like I said on the Willock thread that hand of God effort really fuc*ed us IMO.
Once Willock had to be called into action without warming up everything went to hell.
Now CW could be out long term again with his hamstring and Armstrong himself could have pulled something.
If the Management team know Armstrong has only 60 minutes in him why in Gods name did our subs warm up and be on standby .
Love Armstrong but feel that Martin should have started beat up those Millwall giants a bit then bring him on to do chaos and win a penalty or score maybe
Now who knows what happens Tuesday |
Especially fuc*ed us up because Chair looked free behind him when he stuck his hand up, but then Chair would have blown the chance anyway on current form. I didn't see Willock warming up but the QPR + guys said he was shortly before he came on. | | | |
| Armstrong on 08:18 - Feb 12 with 1901 views | Philothesuperhoop |
I thought he was superb. He pace and strength changes the way we can play.
I also loved his passion, and his desire. The way he sprinted off to sort his contact lens and get straight back on shows a contagious enthusiasm.
However I can buy the argument about inexperience in football decision making, but not this nonsense that he can’t play 90 minutes because he is young! Not only is something wrong there, but there is something wrong with our medical team too as we’ve been talking about this for six months now. Any specific training programme would have had effect by now so clearly there hasn’t been one.
I’ve run youth football teams…. Kids of that age can run around for 180 minutes not 60! |  | | |
| Armstrong on 08:22 - Feb 12 with 1897 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Armstrong on 18:04 - Feb 11 by stevec |
True but such severe cramp that early at his age. I don’t get it. |
He got whacked twice early on in his calf/ lower leg and I would hazard that had lot to do with it. |  |
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| Armstrong on 08:37 - Feb 12 with 1844 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Armstrong on 08:18 - Feb 12 by Philothesuperhoop |
I thought he was superb. He pace and strength changes the way we can play.
I also loved his passion, and his desire. The way he sprinted off to sort his contact lens and get straight back on shows a contagious enthusiasm.
However I can buy the argument about inexperience in football decision making, but not this nonsense that he can’t play 90 minutes because he is young! Not only is something wrong there, but there is something wrong with our medical team too as we’ve been talking about this for six months now. Any specific training programme would have had effect by now so clearly there hasn’t been one.
I’ve run youth football teams…. Kids of that age can run around for 180 minutes not 60! |
Not sure you can compare running youth teams to a 19 year old making the transition from youth to professional men's football. He is a unit so not surprised he is cramping up, they will look at his stats and then adjust his diet etc to help. I think there is a little more to it then expecting him to be able to run around a lot, which he did.
A lot of players, Gerrard being a good example, struggle physically when making the transition. With Gerrard it was his back problems, which was diagnosed as problems with his hamstrings being to tight. It took the Liverpool medical team, and I imagine various external medical professionals, 2 or 3 seasons to finally solve the problem. | | | |
| Armstrong on 11:34 - Feb 12 with 1650 views | QPunkR |
Armstrong was immense, infectious. Our best player by a country mile yesterday - pretty much all of our senior pros should hang their heads that they can't find it within themselves to mirror his enthusiasm. I love how many Wawll defenders he killed to death |  |
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| Armstrong on 13:46 - Feb 12 with 1555 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Armstrong on 11:34 - Feb 12 by QPunkR |
Armstrong was immense, infectious. Our best player by a country mile yesterday - pretty much all of our senior pros should hang their heads that they can't find it within themselves to mirror his enthusiasm. I love how many Wawll defenders he killed to death |
Great post but the down side to his play is the amount of punishment he takes sometimes late and always on the sneaky blindside from defenders.
All the more reason for Martin to whack a few of those big boys early then unleash Armstrong but NC did the opposite.
Everybody knows Armstrong cannot shoot for sh*t but will cause chaos and if defenders are on yellows they have to let him run by.
Hope its just cramp and they both can play against Sunderland because we need that win.
Speaking of Sunderland I rooted for Honeyman in that Netflix Doc but he is some wan*er now . | | | |
| Armstrong on 15:57 - Feb 12 with 1433 views | PinnerPaul |
| Armstrong on 17:52 - Feb 11 by Antti_Heinola |
Best 45 i’ve seen from him and we have to use him more now for sure. Never threatened to score, but he got the crowd going and it was nice to see some pace for once. |
Fair summary.
I suppose the key is which way round for him and Martin
- 1st 60' and last 30' - which in reality is last 35'.
Worked OKish on Saturday so stick with that or reverse - not an easy one? | | | |
| Armstrong on 16:00 - Feb 12 with 1423 views | PinnerPaul |
| Armstrong on 17:56 - Feb 11 by qpr_1968 |
HE WAS SUPERB... |
I do think we need to learn our lesson with reactions like that.
"Superb' is at least scoring or having an effort surely - not digging the bloke out, but with Willock and Dickie we can see how quickly things can change so don't think it does us or him any good to overreact to a decent hardworking hour - but that's all it was IMHO.
Its all opinions in the end though! | | | |
| Armstrong on 16:04 - Feb 12 with 1414 views | PinnerPaul |
| Armstrong on 18:09 - Feb 11 by Antti_Heinola |
Well i’m not a physiotherapist so no idea, but large athletes often struggle early on. Flintoff was like that, Gerrard in his early days, even Les to some degree. Not sure how you know the physio didn’t believe it? Believe what? |
Agree.
I see players who are 40 years younger than me get cramp all the time at my matches - always makes me smile!
Its the time we're in I guess, but in what world does he make believe he has cramp and for what benefit?! | | | |
| Armstrong on 16:05 - Feb 12 with 1414 views | PinnerPaul |
| Armstrong on 18:14 - Feb 11 by connell10 |
He reminds me of a silent movie actor, totally over the top reactions to anything he does! It's quite entertaining!! |
Shouldn't say this but Millwall fans did make me smile when they sang "He's going to cry in a minute, cry in a minute" - I've seen a photo of him laughing at that himself! | | | |
| Armstrong on 18:42 - Feb 12 with 1331 views | bosh67 |
I think if he can get a goal somehow he’ll be flying. Just needs that goal. |  |
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| Armstrong on 09:41 - Feb 13 with 1061 views | francisbowles |
| Armstrong on 07:05 - Feb 12 by PlanetHonneywood |
If this bunch of players need a psychologist every time a manager departs, then they ain't going to have much of a career! In fact, their agents might be better off sounding out Shenley Old Boys F. C. or Broadmoor Staff F.C. in the summer.
It's part and parcel of football: managers and players come and go, professionals get on with it. |
Well that's kind of doing nothing and hoping the situation sorts itself out. Whatever we may think of their fragility, the reality is there is a real problem and we need to try and find a solution. Bringing in a psychologist is a method of attempting to improve the situation.
It has worked for us in the past. [Post edited 13 Feb 2023 9:42]
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