| Is this the end for trump 09:15 - Jul 29 with 6432 views | Best_loser |
Murdoch has seemingly abandoned him and given the order for his media empire to go hostile towards him
Biden under pressure to not contest in 2024 also
Assuming its neither trump or Biden who will be up against each other in 2024 ? |  | | |  |
| Is this the end for trump on 20:56 - Aug 1 with 793 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this the end for trump on 14:01 - Aug 1 by CountyJim |
Genuine question
If it was a Black lives matter rally do you think the authorities would let them get that close even storming the building |
Didn’t they have the run of the country for 12 months?
Didn’t they take over a part of a City by armed militia and name it CHAZ where people were killed?
Didn’t they break into many Governemebt and Federal buildings with the intention of burning the people inside alive?
Do you think if this was a BLM thing driven by the likes of Kamala and Biden that we would be hearing anything about it at all? No. |  |
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| Is this the end for trump on 22:54 - Aug 1 with 751 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 13:57 - Aug 1 by Kerouac |
Again, anyone wondering who is being honest and who is seeking to tell porkies need only read this article (which sums it all up nicely);
https://nypost.com/2022/07/25/biden-plays-orwell-tries-to-redefine-what-recessio
I am not falling into the trap of explaining it to you so you can play dumb in an endless back and forth.
I know what a recession is. We all do. The definition has remained the same for a 100 years and only a liar would pretend that there is any confusion on the issue.
As one of the corrupted souls of the Left explain what you meant by...
"Additionally by the worlds metric, yes, America is in recession but I do believe that by their metrics they are not yet."
It is not possible to be in recession and out of recession at the same time now is it.
Are they in recession or aren't they in your opinion?
Are you capable of answering a straight forward question honestly.. |
Your last line is fcking hilarious coming from you.
Tina Peters, Dominion, elections...all you do is spout conservative propaganda. A couple of months back, under Biden, the US added more jobs than ever before in history. So where ere you then? Me, I dont care enough to comment most of the time but some of your posts (politics not footbal) are so risible I feel forced to comment, even though I know that you will misrepresent what I say. That or you will be laser focusseed on one part whilst ignoring the bulk of it. |  |
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| Is this the end for trump on 22:56 - Aug 1 with 750 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 22:54 - Aug 1 by DJack |
Your last line is fcking hilarious coming from you.
Tina Peters, Dominion, elections...all you do is spout conservative propaganda. A couple of months back, under Biden, the US added more jobs than ever before in history. So where ere you then? Me, I dont care enough to comment most of the time but some of your posts (politics not footbal) are so risible I feel forced to comment, even though I know that you will misrepresent what I say. That or you will be laser focusseed on one part whilst ignoring the bulk of it. |
In your opinion, is the USA in recession? |  |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:00 - Aug 1 with 749 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 22:56 - Aug 1 by Kerouac |
In your opinion, is the USA in recession? |
Yes. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:13 - Aug 1 with 741 views | Catullus |
| Is this the end for trump on 22:56 - Aug 1 by Kerouac |
In your opinion, is the USA in recession? |
Even the American experts can't decide!
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/29/economy/gdp-recession-fed/index.html
They had two succesive quarters of contraction but at the same time their jobs market stayed strong. Some experts say yes, some say no.
The BCDC will decide and so far they are not calling it a recession, because the USA does things a bit differently to the UK! |  |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:22 - Aug 1 with 735 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:13 - Aug 1 by Catullus |
Even the American experts can't decide!
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/29/economy/gdp-recession-fed/index.html
They had two succesive quarters of contraction but at the same time their jobs market stayed strong. Some experts say yes, some say no.
The BCDC will decide and so far they are not calling it a recession, because the USA does things a bit differently to the UK! |
dear, dear...this is why they bother to tell such obvious, blatant, lies. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:24 - Aug 1 with 733 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:00 - Aug 1 by DJack |
Yes. |
Correct answer, there's hope for you yet.
Yet you support politicians who tell blatant lies.
Why? | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:26 - Aug 1 with 732 views | Catullus |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:22 - Aug 1 by Kerouac |
dear, dear...this is why they bother to tell such obvious, blatant, lies. |
What is obvious and blatant changes depending on your point of view/political leaning. For evidence look at the Ukraine thread!
Left and right can see exactly the same thing and see something very different. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:32 - Aug 1 with 729 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:26 - Aug 1 by Catullus |
What is obvious and blatant changes depending on your point of view/political leaning. For evidence look at the Ukraine thread!
Left and right can see exactly the same thing and see something very different. |
No it doesn't.
We have defined a recession as two successive quarters of negative growth for over a century.
It is a FACT that the US of A is in recession.
A stone cold fact.
There is such a thing as 'reality' and 'the truth' Cat.
Not everything is relative and not everything depends on how you "feel" about it...the fact that so many grown adults have swallowed this way of thinking is perhaps the most disastrous event of this century and will certainly lead us to ruin...just like every other country that tried viewing the World through the prism of Marxism.
It is a delusion.
If Trump had pulled the same nonsense I would wager you wouldn't have left a name on him. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:39 - Aug 1 with 726 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:32 - Aug 1 by Kerouac |
No it doesn't.
We have defined a recession as two successive quarters of negative growth for over a century.
It is a FACT that the US of A is in recession.
A stone cold fact.
There is such a thing as 'reality' and 'the truth' Cat.
Not everything is relative and not everything depends on how you "feel" about it...the fact that so many grown adults have swallowed this way of thinking is perhaps the most disastrous event of this century and will certainly lead us to ruin...just like every other country that tried viewing the World through the prism of Marxism.
It is a delusion.
If Trump had pulled the same nonsense I would wager you wouldn't have left a name on him. |
Again your last line is hilarious. NOBOBY but Trump and a few toady's believes he won the election. Trump was going to enact an executive order to seize the election machines...and you band on about illegal/immoral acts but not a peep from you on that one. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Is this the end for trump on 23:56 - Aug 1 with 716 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:39 - Aug 1 by DJack |
Again your last line is hilarious. NOBOBY but Trump and a few toady's believes he won the election. Trump was going to enact an executive order to seize the election machines...and you band on about illegal/immoral acts but not a peep from you on that one. |
I don’t believe he won the election, but I understand his reasoning for not believing it considering all that went on and wanting to investigate. It’s not a crime and probably no different to what Hilary would have demanded in 2020 had she been in power at the time, we all saw and heard the accusations of stolen elections after 2020 regarding it, which people conveniently forget.
I also am certain he would have won the election if it wasn’t for the intentional environment created specifically to remove him. From the social media blanket silencing, to the MSM’s constant propaganda, BLM false narrative stoked by Dems, rioting stoked by Dems, remote voting systems - you name it, the perfect storm was created by design and collusion to get the result wanted by certain organisations with the public used as collateral damage.
The public were essentially used as political pawns - they are now suffering the consequences of that and probably have the worst standard of living of any American era for decades. [Post edited 1 Aug 2022 23:58]
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| Is this the end for trump on 00:06 - Aug 2 with 713 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:39 - Aug 1 by DJack |
Again your last line is hilarious. NOBOBY but Trump and a few toady's believes he won the election. Trump was going to enact an executive order to seize the election machines...and you band on about illegal/immoral acts but not a peep from you on that one. |
If what you say is true; "NOBOBY but Trump and a few toady's believes he won the election"
...then why, a year from Biden's election
(when he supposedly got the most votes of all times...whilst campaigning from his basement before looking like somebody with early onset dementia whilst getting battered in the debates...after 4 years of relentless media attacks, 4 years of people like you claiming he "stole the election" with the help of Russia...you don't think that you are not hilarious?  ...after a year of violent riots on the streets, the disastrously unpopular 'Defund the Police' policy demanded, cosying up to the incredibly unpopular BLM)
...was Biden demolished in every poll, setting records for his...and his band of clowns (I won't call them an 'Administration') unpopularity?
Why then is Trump leading every poll, SMASHING IT?
Why then is Trumps odds so short with the bookies?
Shall I tell you why?
Everybody who is not a naive, child like, excuse for an adult, a lapper-up of BS, understands this by the way...
...Biden never got those votes in the first place.
He was always that unpopular as were the band of clowns we call the Democrat party.
BLM riots, Antifa, 'Defund the Police', the obvious in your face lying by the media and the fact that Biden is not compus mentus ensured the band of criminal clowns' unpopularity way before the election.
The Democrat Party were facing complete wipeout...a total rejection by the American people. The media was facing a complete wipeout too, as they have lost all credibility (despite lying for 4/5 years the public saw straight through them and rejected what they had to say altogether...a total loss of power for the Left).
They had to steal it...this is what they are talking about when they say "Democracy was under threat"...what they mean is that one party, their party, was going to be, deservedly, wiped off the political map.
Trump of course picked up millions of extra voters, he set the record for a President in his position...and yet somehow he lost...thousands and thousands of eyewitnesses came forward making allegations of election fraud...there was an article in Time magazine that detailed how the conspirators stole the election (the idiots were proud of it...in their substandard minds they were fighting the next Hitler)...
...and then, within a few short months of Biden's 'election' what becomes clear?
Nobody supports Biden or his band of clowns.
This is unprecedented and inexplicable.
Only morons, and those with a vested interest in the Left winning , on both sides of the Atlantic (these people have been morally corrupted, our societies will pay for this big time) are swallowing this.
Everybody who can think clearly knows what happened. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 00:06 - Aug 2 with 713 views | Catullus |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:32 - Aug 1 by Kerouac |
No it doesn't.
We have defined a recession as two successive quarters of negative growth for over a century.
It is a FACT that the US of A is in recession.
A stone cold fact.
There is such a thing as 'reality' and 'the truth' Cat.
Not everything is relative and not everything depends on how you "feel" about it...the fact that so many grown adults have swallowed this way of thinking is perhaps the most disastrous event of this century and will certainly lead us to ruin...just like every other country that tried viewing the World through the prism of Marxism.
It is a delusion.
If Trump had pulled the same nonsense I would wager you wouldn't have left a name on him. |
That is how the UK defines a recession, the USA has a slightly different way which employs 8 economists who make the call as a group and so far they say no.
The USA is in recession by UK standards yes. But the reality is different in the USA as this thread proves, you want the USA to be in recession so you can use it against Biden.
Don't assume I am defending Biden here either. I have no dog in their fight and to me the USa is in the same schit as the UK, whichever party won they were screwed, Corbyn or Bojo, Biden or Trump. It was all bad in the grand scheme of things.
Question, do you think I'm a leftie? Because the genuine lefties on here tend to call me a Tory, ask Kilkenny, Trampie and Builty! | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 00:27 - Aug 2 with 705 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 00:06 - Aug 2 by Catullus |
That is how the UK defines a recession, the USA has a slightly different way which employs 8 economists who make the call as a group and so far they say no.
The USA is in recession by UK standards yes. But the reality is different in the USA as this thread proves, you want the USA to be in recession so you can use it against Biden.
Don't assume I am defending Biden here either. I have no dog in their fight and to me the USa is in the same schit as the UK, whichever party won they were screwed, Corbyn or Bojo, Biden or Trump. It was all bad in the grand scheme of things.
Question, do you think I'm a leftie? Because the genuine lefties on here tend to call me a Tory, ask Kilkenny, Trampie and Builty! |
No Cat, that is how the World (including the USA, until this week) defines a recession.
"The USA is in recession by UK standards yes. But the reality is different in the USA as this thread proves, you want the USA to be in recession so you can use it against Biden."
...you see, this is confused thinking.
1) Reality is not different in the USA Cat, reality is reality.
2) I want the USA to be in recession? No I don't, it is bad news for the Western World. You sound like a child trying to pass on responsibility, to assign responsibility for the thing that's going wrong to the person who happens to point out that things are going wrong...
...and Cat, be honest with yourself, if this was Trump you would be pointing out that things were going wrong. So let's drop the pretence of your impartiality and my bias.
"Don't assume I am defending Biden here either. I have no dog in their fight and to me the USa is in the same schit as the UK, whichever party won they were screwed, Corbyn or Bojo, Biden or Trump. It was all bad in the grand scheme of things."
...but you are defending Biden Cat. That is what you are doing. That is reality. You are pretending that the rules of what defines a recession depends on which country you are in. It doesn't.
You attacked Trump relentlessly, you didn't defend him lying to people's faces like you are defending the Democrat clown show lying to people's faces.
...and again, this insistence from you that they are all as bad as one another and it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other...I understand why you do this Cat, as an ex-Union man, it must be hard to watch the Left that you knew falling apart...but the evidence is before us Cat.
By every metric the Clown show Presidency is worse than the Trump Presidency.
A metric is measured in reality Cat, it doesn't depend on people's perspectives, opinions and feelings...it only depends on what we can measure in reality.
"Question, do you think I'm a leftie? Because the genuine lefties on here tend to call me a Tory, ask Kilkenny, Trampie and Builty!"
...I think you try to walk the line down the middle and that you probably don't agree with a lot of the positions the Left takes today, but you probably believe that they are saveable...that essentially the Left are nicer people because even though they screw things up they are doing it for good reasons.
I went through a stage like that...and then I realised that if the Left were really good people doing what they do for good reasons, they would put their egos aside and accept that what they are doing is not working. In fact they are making things worse...it is unavoidable because they don't see the World how it is, but rather how they would like it to be.
As any successful person knows, without facing reality, diagnosing problems correctly whether they be problems that you caused or whether they be problems others are causing, without being able to see the picture clearly...you have no chance of fixing the problems, no chance whatsoever....you're like a mechanic who is changing the oil filter when in fact the Turbo has gone. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 00:43 - Aug 2 with 692 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this the end for trump on 00:06 - Aug 2 by Catullus |
That is how the UK defines a recession, the USA has a slightly different way which employs 8 economists who make the call as a group and so far they say no.
The USA is in recession by UK standards yes. But the reality is different in the USA as this thread proves, you want the USA to be in recession so you can use it against Biden.
Don't assume I am defending Biden here either. I have no dog in their fight and to me the USa is in the same schit as the UK, whichever party won they were screwed, Corbyn or Bojo, Biden or Trump. It was all bad in the grand scheme of things.
Question, do you think I'm a leftie? Because the genuine lefties on here tend to call me a Tory, ask Kilkenny, Trampie and Builty! |
That’s just semantics and word play. The result is the same.
If the USA doesn’t recognise someone as dead until months after the fact and as a rule you need to decompose down to the skeleton first… it’s fair to say if you stopped breathing and your heart stopped last week - you are still dead.
The USA is in a recession. Whether their economists agree with that is largely irrelevant.
That’s what happens when you are partisan, you end up allowing word play to define the reality of the situation. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 00:46 - Aug 2 with 691 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 00:06 - Aug 2 by Kerouac |
If what you say is true; "NOBOBY but Trump and a few toady's believes he won the election"
...then why, a year from Biden's election
(when he supposedly got the most votes of all times...whilst campaigning from his basement before looking like somebody with early onset dementia whilst getting battered in the debates...after 4 years of relentless media attacks, 4 years of people like you claiming he "stole the election" with the help of Russia...you don't think that you are not hilarious? ...after a year of violent riots on the streets, the disastrously unpopular 'Defund the Police' policy demanded, cosying up to the incredibly unpopular BLM)
...was Biden demolished in every poll, setting records for his...and his band of clowns (I won't call them an 'Administration') unpopularity?
Why then is Trump leading every poll, SMASHING IT?
Why then is Trumps odds so short with the bookies?
Shall I tell you why?
Everybody who is not a naive, child like, excuse for an adult, a lapper-up of BS, understands this by the way...
...Biden never got those votes in the first place.
He was always that unpopular as were the band of clowns we call the Democrat party.
BLM riots, Antifa, 'Defund the Police', the obvious in your face lying by the media and the fact that Biden is not compus mentus ensured the band of criminal clowns' unpopularity way before the election.
The Democrat Party were facing complete wipeout...a total rejection by the American people. The media was facing a complete wipeout too, as they have lost all credibility (despite lying for 4/5 years the public saw straight through them and rejected what they had to say altogether...a total loss of power for the Left).
They had to steal it...this is what they are talking about when they say "Democracy was under threat"...what they mean is that one party, their party, was going to be, deservedly, wiped off the political map.
Trump of course picked up millions of extra voters, he set the record for a President in his position...and yet somehow he lost...thousands and thousands of eyewitnesses came forward making allegations of election fraud...there was an article in Time magazine that detailed how the conspirators stole the election (the idiots were proud of it...in their substandard minds they were fighting the next Hitler)...
...and then, within a few short months of Biden's 'election' what becomes clear?
Nobody supports Biden or his band of clowns.
This is unprecedented and inexplicable.
Only morons, and those with a vested interest in the Left winning , on both sides of the Atlantic (these people have been morally corrupted, our societies will pay for this big time) are swallowing this.
Everybody who can think clearly knows what happened. |
https://lostnotstolen.org/
https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/02/16/feb16dojindictment.pdf
https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/07/29/yevgeniy_vicktorovich_prigozhin_fbi_wanted_pos | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 00:50 - Aug 2 with 687 views | Kerouac |
DEFINING YOUR OWN REALITY INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING REALITY - OTHERWISE KNOWN AS 'DELUSION
Imagine, if you will, that the rules of the Universe, the rules of Science, the rules of Economics etc. are the equivalent to the rules of Professional Football.
Russell Martin = Joe Biden.
- Joe Biden has taken over the Swans after the previous manager, Donald Trump, was ousted after a long bitter campaign against him.
Despite Trump achieving steady progress and getting the Swans to the brink of the promised land the fans didn't like his stupid orange face and chased him out of Swansea.
- Big things are promised by Joe Biden's supporters and big things are expected of him following that awful , ugly/orange man.
- Unfortunately it quickly becomes apparent that Biden is a disaster, he has us playing boring football, littered with mistakes that professional teams really shouldn't be making and we finish in the bottom half of the table.
- Russell Martin comes out with a big red nose and a multi-coloured tinsel wig on his head to be interviewed and declares;
"Fellow Jacks...do not believe my wicked detractors who are engaged in what I like to call; 'The Big Lie'
We are not a poor team in the bottom half...we reject those old, preconceived notions, we are redefining success here at Swansea City F.C. and taking football to strange new places...screw the old metric of points/GDP defining success, we (in the clown car) are being very brave boys indeed and we seek to make a better world, a world where the possession stat is king...this is what you voted for Jack Army!"
(Cue lots of confused Jacks looking at eachother and asking 'Did you vote for him, I didn't...what the ****!)
- The problem for Russell Biden is that the rules, the reality, of the universe hasn't changed.
He plays to his own metrics but points are still what determines real success.
He is leading the USA to League 1.
Meanwhile Donald Trump takes over Nottingham Forest and leads them to the promised land...his possession stats are shite though.
Is that very clear. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:03 - Aug 2 with 682 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 23:39 - Aug 1 by DJack |
Again your last line is hilarious. NOBOBY but Trump and a few toady's believes he won the election. Trump was going to enact an executive order to seize the election machines...and you band on about illegal/immoral acts but not a peep from you on that one. |
You never answered why you support/defend politicians who you admit are lying.
Why do you do that? | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:05 - Aug 2 with 681 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:03 - Aug 2 by Kerouac |
You never answered why you support/defend politicians who you admit are lying.
Why do you do that? |
Which politician and which lie?
Why do you defend Trump with his lies? | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:15 - Aug 2 with 679 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:05 - Aug 2 by DJack |
Which politician and which lie?
Why do you defend Trump with his lies? |
This is not an honest conversation is it.
I'm not playing. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:18 - Aug 2 with 678 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:15 - Aug 2 by Kerouac |
This is not an honest conversation is it.
I'm not playing. |
Eh! you made a vague unsubstantiated statement on which I have no idea to what/whom exactly you are referring ...and you call me dishonest!
Whilst you are here...here is another one of your hobby horses nailed as false that you didn't mention either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62307383 | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:24 - Aug 2 with 673 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:18 - Aug 2 by DJack |
Eh! you made a vague unsubstantiated statement on which I have no idea to what/whom exactly you are referring ...and you call me dishonest!
Whilst you are here...here is another one of your hobby horses nailed as false that you didn't mention either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62307383 |
I'll tell you what idiot.
See if you can get someone to help explain the "vague" question to you.  | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:29 - Aug 2 with 671 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:24 - Aug 2 by Kerouac |
I'll tell you what idiot.
See if you can get someone to help explain the "vague" question to you. |
Which politician and which lies?
Your question is like me asking if you've stopped beating your wife yet. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:36 - Aug 2 with 663 views | Kerouac |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:29 - Aug 2 by DJack |
Which politician and which lies?
Your question is like me asking if you've stopped beating your wife yet. |
It is a very simple question in the context of the conversation (...the conversation concerning the fact that the Biden regime is denying that the U.S. is in recession - You have admitted that they are, in fact, in recession);
"You never answered why you support/defend politicians who you admit are lying.
Why do you do that?"
If you are confused by that question, seek help. | |
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| Is this the end for trump on 01:40 - Aug 2 with 659 views | DJack |
| Is this the end for trump on 01:36 - Aug 2 by Kerouac |
It is a very simple question in the context of the conversation (...the conversation concerning the fact that the Biden regime is denying that the U.S. is in recession - You have admitted that they are, in fact, in recession);
"You never answered why you support/defend politicians who you admit are lying.
Why do you do that?"
If you are confused by that question, seek help. |
Nope. Under their metrics they are not, both you and I disagree but our opinion is nought.
If it were Trump you'd be moaning that we aren't accounting for us way of doing it and claim that the MSM is trying to undermine Trump but as it;s Biden you are letting your prejudices get in the way.
Now then your defence of Trump and his lies. why do you do it? | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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