| Martin - Perspective so far 19:25 - Sep 15 with 12239 views | Rock |
Martin didn’t get a pre-season with us, and has had five weeks to come in to a new club and get to know a completely new set of players and league, while attempting to change the identity and style of play back to where we were during our most successful period. This was the sole reason the owners paid almost half a million pounds to bring him here, full well knowing it would be a difficult transition at first. They did not do that just to change the script after a month or persevere with Cooper’s negative tactics. No matter what a few contrarian posters on here want or think, Martin will be here and the club are prepared for the long haul, so best to shape up and live in reality.
Our players have had two years, and this pre-season, of Cooperball built around sitting deep, clearing the ball under any pressure and hoofing it up to Ayew hoping he can get fouled and win a free-kick. It was always going to take a bit of time to get them to change their instincts at this point, and it’s certainly going to take longer without a pre-season to show them his preferred methods and patterns of play. Martin’s system is very dynamic but structured, built around positional play, and is very complex and different from what they have been accustomed to. Additionally, as Farke and Martin have both said recently, pre-season is about building fitness, and our squad is still not up to snuff on that yet. A long list of injuries and COVID outbreaks combined with a congested run of 7 games in 21 days did not help either, as the team barely had a handful of training sessions together before the international break. We saw a much-changed group of players this weekend, and that will only continue to get better with time.
Norwich under Farke has dominated the Championship playing positive, possession football but it didn’t happen overnight. His first season at Carrow Road resulted in the club finishing 13th and there were calls at difficult moments, mostly on social media, for him to be sacked. Pukki and Krul were unheralded free transfers and Buendia was an unknown brought in for just over £1m. Cantwell started just 18 games that first promotion season and had minimal impact (1 goals, 2 assists). Norwich’s leadership, sporting director Stuart Webber, understood that to build anything of quality takes time, patience and mettle, especially with the best architects. Farke was given time to develop the squad and implement his system, and they have achieved promotion in two of the following three seasons, while playing some of the best football the league has ever seen.
When Thomas Frank took over Brentford in October 2018 they were 6th in the division. They then lost eight of their first ten matches under him and were 17th or lower from the beginning of December until March, only finishing 12th after three wins to end the season, one of which was a forfeit by Bolton. And he wasn’t implementing a new playing style or getting to know a new team. He is a bright, quality coach but his reign has mostly been a continuation and slight refinement of the work that came before him by Dean Smith. Brentford stuck by him, and now they are beating Arsenal and in the top half of the PL a few seasons later.
Quality work takes time. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Martin is doing quality work, within a very difficult set of parameters, and has already had some impressive performances with our players and the type of football we are seeing. The results will come. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Time, patience and holding your nerve are the keys. |  | | |  |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 10:55 - Sep 17 with 1027 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 10:51 - Sep 17 by jackrmee |
Luton game is 8th game.
20% of season comes after 9.2 games.
Hence, after, not before the Hudds game. We don't pass 20% of the season until after we have played ulham on 29/09 |
You said it was 8 days to the start of the next game.
9 games is 19.56%, scientific rounding makes that 20%.
10 games of course is closer to 22%. |  |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 11:07 - Sep 17 with 1009 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 10:55 - Sep 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
You said it was 8 days to the start of the next game.
9 games is 19.56%, scientific rounding makes that 20%.
10 games of course is closer to 22%. |
you haven't reached 20% after 9 games
the facts speak for themselves |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 11:11 - Sep 17 with 998 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 11:07 - Sep 17 by PatchesOHoulihan |
you haven't reached 20% after 9 games
the facts speak for themselves |
You haven’t reached 2 weeks after 12 days either.
What I said was 20% of the season is fast approaching, which it is.
19.56% is approaching even quicker if that helps  | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 17:58 - Sep 17 with 921 views | onehunglow |
Rome crumbled by the way out of arrogance |  |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:26 - Sep 22 with 845 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 19:38 - Sep 15 by Dr_Parnassus |
Brentford spent €48m under Frank before they got promotion. Comparisons to them are ludicrous.
Norwich spent €28m under Farke before they got promotion, and also got the benefit of the emergence of Max Aarons who is worth a reported £22m and Todd Cantwell who is worth a reported £40m. Between them they played 64 games in their promotion season.
Suggesting we can buy players like Pukki and Buendia again is a bit like the Michu argument. Unfortunately it’s not that common.
I admire your positivity, but it’s important to have a dash of realism in there too. |
Yeah, again, no, massive fail as always.
Both clubs operate on a small budget and have spent far less than they have brought in. They recruit very well and then buy good players for much less money than the good players they sell. That is the philosophy we have been replicating for a couple windows now under Scott, who did the same with Brentford, and it has shown. Smart, affordable purchases of young players with talent and potential, then developing them to sell-on and replenish the club with funds, while achieving success on the pitch, is the clear objective, following the Norwich and Brentford models and many others like Brighton. The scale changes with every club, but the underlying philosophy is the same.
Our squad is now well-stocked with an array of sellable assets of our own, after being filled with PL clubs’ loanees for a couple of seasons. The last big sells we had were McBurnie, James and Rodon, around £50m, all given a chance and expertly developed by Potter. Good players, but they’re far from generational talents. Nothing since for us, but a lot of money made for Liverpool and Chelsea. Hiring an intelligent manager who can actually instill the Swansea Way and develop our own players is what the club have now done, same with Potter before, and something they attempted to do with Cooper. He chose another route, negative football, his u17 boys and enriching other clubs at our expense.
The business we are now doing will have much better long-term benefits for the club. I understand that’s not what you want, as you are quite clearly the forum troll and not an actual fan, hence your responses in this thread. Success on the pitch will come with time and patience, and I fully expect us to replicate what Norwich and Brentford have done. The decision-makers leading the club agree, and they will be giving Martin the time and funds to see this plan through no matter how upset that makes you. It’s progressively getting worse with you, and it’s extremely transparent. The club actually paid good money for Martin, something no one was willing to do for Cooper this summer, unfortunately.
This is the reality. Shape up chap, even a broken clock is right twice a day. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:34 - Sep 22 with 836 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 21:52 - Sep 15 by AndyCole |
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I wrote this last night on another thread (but isn't showing for some reason) :
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Time for a reality check.
Unbelievably disappointing, in so many ways. Something's not right about Martin. Most especially how he has manipulated our Club to spend more than ever.
Some of the cleverer rational thinkers who look at facts, stats, game plans, strategies, ongoing game tactics, subbing tactics, team spirit, hwyl, bouncebackability - will be utterly underwhelmed and somewhat concerned with the demise this term. We have regressed at an alarming rate, in almost all ways.
The emotional thinkers, the ones who seem unable to objectively assess, are somehow delighted despite us languishing in the bottom 5 (still). The same emotional thinkers were moaning when we were playing winning Top6/4 football, with a shout of EPL glory. They make no sense, and are becoming ever more non-sensical with their constant trolling.
I for one was hopeful with RM's appointment, at the outset. The rational thinkers were looking forward to us building upon our strengths and maybe kicking on to another level. Fresh blood when the Club seemed tired.
Yet RM has thrown all our good bits out with the bathwater. He even attempted to oust our proper#9, until the senior players intervened. Yet RM has somehow got us spending like never before. And is still looking to spend. Something's not right.......
.....watch this space, something's not right.
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Bueno, Andrew.
No one is “delighted” with the results so far, but the performances have been encouraging, especially since Martin actually had a little bit of time to work with the players. They will only get better, most actual Swans fans can see that and are willing to be patient to get to a stronger place in the long run.
Instilling a progressive passing and pressing system built around possession and intricate positional play takes a lot of hard work and time, and it’s been clear to see the difference the past three games. It will only get better as the players learn, develop and understand the system more. The results will follow.
I don’t quite know what to make of the rest, I’ll just point to my posts above. It’s put up or shut up time for you and your fellow troll on here. Best if you followed your boy ‘Coops’ to Forest. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:41 - Sep 22 with 823 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:26 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Yeah, again, no, massive fail as always.
Both clubs operate on a small budget and have spent far less than they have brought in. They recruit very well and then buy good players for much less money than the good players they sell. That is the philosophy we have been replicating for a couple windows now under Scott, who did the same with Brentford, and it has shown. Smart, affordable purchases of young players with talent and potential, then developing them to sell-on and replenish the club with funds, while achieving success on the pitch, is the clear objective, following the Norwich and Brentford models and many others like Brighton. The scale changes with every club, but the underlying philosophy is the same.
Our squad is now well-stocked with an array of sellable assets of our own, after being filled with PL clubs’ loanees for a couple of seasons. The last big sells we had were McBurnie, James and Rodon, around £50m, all given a chance and expertly developed by Potter. Good players, but they’re far from generational talents. Nothing since for us, but a lot of money made for Liverpool and Chelsea. Hiring an intelligent manager who can actually instill the Swansea Way and develop our own players is what the club have now done, same with Potter before, and something they attempted to do with Cooper. He chose another route, negative football, his u17 boys and enriching other clubs at our expense.
The business we are now doing will have much better long-term benefits for the club. I understand that’s not what you want, as you are quite clearly the forum troll and not an actual fan, hence your responses in this thread. Success on the pitch will come with time and patience, and I fully expect us to replicate what Norwich and Brentford have done. The decision-makers leading the club agree, and they will be giving Martin the time and funds to see this plan through no matter how upset that makes you. It’s progressively getting worse with you, and it’s extremely transparent. The club actually paid good money for Martin, something no one was willing to do for Cooper this summer, unfortunately.
This is the reality. Shape up chap, even a broken clock is right twice a day. |
Well firstly, it’s certainly recommended you looked for new material in your quest to troll, amigo. The previous attempts were looking bleak for you so I commend you for expanding your zone, it’s what all good trolls do, I’ve battled with a fair few of them over the years and you look to be volunteering to be my next toy, which is quite exciting a prospect.
Now back to this nonsense.
1) Norwich
- £25m transfer spend in 3 Championship seasons.
- Aarons and Cantwell emerging valued at £65m
- Rare signings like Buendia and Pukki picked up cheaply
2) Brentford
- £43.5m transfer spend in 3 Championship seasons.
3) Swansea
- £7.2m transfer spend in 3 Championship seasons.
Now if you expect us to turn into a promotion side, just because Norwich and Brentford managed to do so after spending a kings ransom. Then all power to you, I love your confidence, be it faux or otherwise, it doesn’t really matter.
However some will understand the realities of where we are as a club and have a far more realistic outlook on things. No expected nonsense, actual cold hard facts of what is and has happened.
You will just have to live with the fact that not everyone lives in tierra de fantasÃa. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:42 - Sep 22 with 826 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 09:41 - Sep 16 by Catullus |
That is the big difference, we were proactive in defence early in the season, we controlled games by sending the attack where we wanted which was down blind alleys, we weren't allowing the ball into the box which was why Woodman was getting clean sheets. Later on we weren't in control, we were forced back rather than be in control.
That play off final,not a single shot on target, how were we going to score? We had the most possession but were so painfully obviously much the worse team.
Last nights game, anybody with a brain could see that we aren't far away from getting the win. It has to come soon though or confidence may suffer. Be honest, Millwall are a better team than Hull and are always a handful but we did pretty good really. Still improvements to be made but we are going in the right direction whereas under Cooper we were very much heading in the wrong direction. |
Agreed, Catallus, well said.
We absolutely dominated the Hull game - camped out in their half, cut them open several times and had several really good chances go begging, two clear penalties not called, the one on Laird was about as nailed on as could be possible, and Hull could barely get out of their own half, much less muster any attacks. Piröe and Ntcham had a few good chances and were unlucky, Bidwell had a clear look from the edge of the penalty area, even Grimes had some good chances but, well, he is who he is. It was a game that was definitively ours, no other way to put it, and we deserved at least a goal or two based on the performance.
The Millwall match was much the same ball domination and chance creation, although more of an open game between the two teams than the Hull match. Millwall had some decent looks but nothing clear-cut, and we created two gilt-edged chances that Paterson and Obafemi should be finishing every time, their reactions to the misses said it all. Finishing is not really Paterson’s game, so can’t blame him too much other than he’s got to do better, but Obafemi really is an excellent finisher and he knows he’s got to do better. Should’ve slotted it in the bottom left corner, but he went for the right trying to catch the keeper out and it went just wide. He had some really good chances against Luton also, obviously the one at the end but a couple others that he didn’t capitalise on.
Happens to the best finishers, though, and with more gametime and chances those will start going in more often than not. All he needs is one to go into the back of the net and I can see him going on a tear, he is extremely dynamic upfront and an absolute beast physically. I hadn’t seen too much of him before this season, but it’s clear now why Martin and the club shifted Lowe out for him, he’s an exceptional player and talent and pairs really well with Piröe and our ball-playing midfielders. The Luton game was just the beginning, there will be bumps along the way like the first half, but the second half was stunning and we’re clearly heading into the right direction under Martin. | | | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:46 - Sep 22 with 815 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 12:05 - Sep 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
The OP is trying very hard to ignore the obvious problems that are apparent in Martin's approach to player selection and positioning. |
Agreed AFD | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:47 - Sep 22 with 816 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:41 - Sep 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
Well firstly, it’s certainly recommended you looked for new material in your quest to troll, amigo. The previous attempts were looking bleak for you so I commend you for expanding your zone, it’s what all good trolls do, I’ve battled with a fair few of them over the years and you look to be volunteering to be my next toy, which is quite exciting a prospect.
Now back to this nonsense.
1) Norwich
- £25m transfer spend in 3 Championship seasons.
- Aarons and Cantwell emerging valued at £65m
- Rare signings like Buendia and Pukki picked up cheaply
2) Brentford
- £43.5m transfer spend in 3 Championship seasons.
3) Swansea
- £7.2m transfer spend in 3 Championship seasons.
Now if you expect us to turn into a promotion side, just because Norwich and Brentford managed to do so after spending a kings ransom. Then all power to you, I love your confidence, be it faux or otherwise, it doesn’t really matter.
However some will understand the realities of where we are as a club and have a far more realistic outlook on things. No expected nonsense, actual cold hard facts of what is and has happened.
You will just have to live with the fact that not everyone lives in tierra de fantasÃa. |
Lol, bueno.
Just weird, even for you.
Stopped reading after the bit about you wanting me to be “your next toy”, I think you’re on the wrong site for that, muchacho.
You can re-read my posts in this thread if you need anymore answers.
Your troll game is getting pretty weak lately, fair play. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:51 - Sep 22 with 811 views | WalterBoyd |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:47 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Lol, bueno.
Just weird, even for you.
Stopped reading after the bit about you wanting me to be “your next toy”, I think you’re on the wrong site for that, muchacho.
You can re-read my posts in this thread if you need anymore answers.
Your troll game is getting pretty weak lately, fair play. |
Tag team. In the blue corner Walt and Rock, in the Red corner Dr Prickly and Andy .
Sorry Rock, I am off to bed. Good luck. Dont debate, with the masterdebater. 😉 | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:53 - Sep 22 with 807 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 12:05 - Sep 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
The OP is trying very hard to ignore the obvious problems that are apparent in Martin's approach to player selection and positioning. |
He’s getting to know a new squad and league, adding new players, dealing with injuries and illness, and implementing a new playing style and system. It’s going to take some tinkering, flexibility and adapting.
I remember many fans leveling the same criticism towards Potter, and I think he and Brighton are doing just fine. He’s gotten time and patience and the results are there for all to see. Statistically one of the best teams in the PL last season, underdone by poor finishing and bad luck, and now the results are beginning to reflect the true quality of his coaching. In the Champions League places if you need a primer.
For me, Martin is along those same lines, obviously nowhere near as accomplished as a manager, but neither was Potter at his age. That will come with time and patience, there are not many in the game with his intelligence and tactical insight. He fits our club perfectly, I fully support him and I am glad he is our manager, especially after we were turned down by John Eustace of all people. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:53 - Sep 22 with 804 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:47 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Lol, bueno.
Just weird, even for you.
Stopped reading after the bit about you wanting me to be “your next toy”, I think you’re on the wrong site for that, muchacho.
You can re-read my posts in this thread if you need anymore answers.
Your troll game is getting pretty weak lately, fair play. |
What a shame.
That’s what all the trolls say when they get stuck.
I didn’t say I wanted you to be my next toy, I said you are volunteering to be. Remember when you discuss things with me, you need excellent understanding of the written word. Changing what I say will get flagged immediately, which is why trolls have zero success with me.
Ah well, maybe you will say something meaningful tomorrow.
Nosotros esperamos. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:56 - Sep 22 with 801 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:51 - Sep 22 by WalterBoyd |
Tag team. In the blue corner Walt and Rock, in the Red corner Dr Prickly and Andy .
Sorry Rock, I am off to bed. Good luck. Dont debate, with the masterdebater. 😉 |
Lol, no worries Walt.
Muchas gracias, but they’re not really that hard to put down.
Just all “skewed narratives” and trolling, and I have no interest in the weird, endless back-and-forths.
Get some rest mate, live to fight another day. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:56 - Sep 22 with 798 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:53 - Sep 22 by Rock |
He’s getting to know a new squad and league, adding new players, dealing with injuries and illness, and implementing a new playing style and system. It’s going to take some tinkering, flexibility and adapting.
I remember many fans leveling the same criticism towards Potter, and I think he and Brighton are doing just fine. He’s gotten time and patience and the results are there for all to see. Statistically one of the best teams in the PL last season, underdone by poor finishing and bad luck, and now the results are beginning to reflect the true quality of his coaching. In the Champions League places if you need a primer.
For me, Martin is along those same lines, obviously nowhere near as accomplished as a manager, but neither was Potter at his age. That will come with time and patience, there are not many in the game with his intelligence and tactical insight. He fits our club perfectly, I fully support him and I am glad he is our manager, especially after we were turned down by John Eustace of all people. |
Brighton got 15 points from their opening 11 games at Premier League level.
The notion they “gave him time” and are reaping the rewards is a fallacy. He earned time by his results, and as a result he was given £145m to spend, to go on top of the £100m that was spent on the squad in the two seasons immediately prior to his arrival.
They are now reaping the rewards of that spend.
Again, reality. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:59 - Sep 22 with 792 views | Dr_Parnassus |
“I have no interest in the weird, endless back-and-forths”…. While digging up pointless posts from months ago and saying “lol nah bueno” on repeat. 
If you have no interest in weird and endless back and forths then Bill Gates has no interest in technology. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:00 - Sep 22 with 794 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 10:54 - Sep 17 by Brynmill_Jack |
Be careful, you’re in danger of being the next Jack24/7 - or his next victim. Hopefully Simon Jordan’s honest assessment of Cooper will drag him onto talk sport for a bit |
Agreed, Brynmill, hope he slinks off to Nottingham with his idol Cooper, he needs all the support he can get there. Forest fans are already massively disappointed and they haven’t even had to witness a mind-numbing game of Cooperball yet.
What’s he done with Jack247 btw, Brynmill? Bore him to death? Sad, sad individual, transparently the biggest troll on here. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:04 - Sep 22 with 788 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:59 - Sep 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
“I have no interest in the weird, endless back-and-forths”…. While digging up pointless posts from months ago and saying “lol nah bueno” on repeat.
If you have no interest in weird and endless back and forths then Bill Gates has no interest in technology. |
Lol, nah, fail as always.
Well and truly sussed you on that thread.
Your words deceive you, and they shine the light on your blatant trolling.
As you were. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:08 - Sep 22 with 776 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:00 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Agreed, Brynmill, hope he slinks off to Nottingham with his idol Cooper, he needs all the support he can get there. Forest fans are already massively disappointed and they haven’t even had to witness a mind-numbing game of Cooperball yet.
What’s he done with Jack247 btw, Brynmill? Bore him to death? Sad, sad individual, transparently the biggest troll on here. |
Of course they are disappointed, they are bottom of the league.
Oh, I won’t be leaving anywhere muchacho, but I will certainly be keeping an eye on Forests progress. I have a very healthy respect for Cooper and what he achieved here, as should you of course if your claim to support Swansea is indeed true and not your trolling guise.
I love the fact you are calling someone sad while dancing around a forum at 2am repeating the same nonsense, digging up meaningless threads on a loop and looking for allies along the way.
Despierta, signor. Despierta. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:09 - Sep 22 with 778 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 02:56 - Sep 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
Brighton got 15 points from their opening 11 games at Premier League level.
The notion they “gave him time” and are reaping the rewards is a fallacy. He earned time by his results, and as a result he was given £145m to spend, to go on top of the £100m that was spent on the squad in the two seasons immediately prior to his arrival.
They are now reaping the rewards of that spend.
Again, reality. |
Lol, nah.
Reality is Brighton saw an intelligent manager who knows how to implement a progressive passing system, and were willing to be patient with him in order to do so.
Same as with us, sorry that really hurts you. You’ve gotten really desperate as a result.
Shame ‘Coops’ only got an offer from the last-placed, dysfunctional club in the second division, eh chap? Lol.
Your troll game is getting weaker and weaker. Time to give in and walk away like ‘Coops’ muchacho. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:11 - Sep 22 with 771 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:04 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Lol, nah, fail as always.
Well and truly sussed you on that thread.
Your words deceive you, and they shine the light on your blatant trolling.
As you were. |
My words are my ally, always will be. They are immune from being altered or changed, unfortunately for you.
Trolling has zero effect on me, other than obliging to play with them and getting mild satisfaction at seeing them wade in mud constantly looking for the next thread to try… they are like pigs in a truffle market.
As you were.
Oink. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:12 - Sep 22 with 772 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:08 - Sep 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
Of course they are disappointed, they are bottom of the league.
Oh, I won’t be leaving anywhere muchacho, but I will certainly be keeping an eye on Forests progress. I have a very healthy respect for Cooper and what he achieved here, as should you of course if your claim to support Swansea is indeed true and not your trolling guise.
I love the fact you are calling someone sad while dancing around a forum at 2am repeating the same nonsense, digging up meaningless threads on a loop and looking for allies along the way.
Despierta, signor. Despierta. |
Lol, bueno.
“Skewed narratives”.
Says it all really. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:13 - Sep 22 with 762 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:12 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Lol, bueno.
“Skewed narratives”.
Says it all really. |
It certainly does, it means I am aware and will catch them every single time.
Bueno indeed, signor. | |
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| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:15 - Sep 22 with 761 views | Rock |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:11 - Sep 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
My words are my ally, always will be. They are immune from being altered or changed, unfortunately for you.
Trolling has zero effect on me, other than obliging to play with them and getting mild satisfaction at seeing them wade in mud constantly looking for the next thread to try… they are like pigs in a truffle market.
As you were.
Oink. |
Lol, bueno.
Yikes.
First the bit about wanting me as “your next toy” now this stuff?
Progressively weirder, I’d hate to see what else you can come up with, time to call it a night. | | | |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:19 - Sep 22 with 755 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Martin - Perspective so far on 03:15 - Sep 22 by Rock |
Lol, bueno.
Yikes.
First the bit about wanting me as “your next toy” now this stuff?
Progressively weirder, I’d hate to see what else you can come up with, time to call it a night. |
Lol Bueno.
Exhibit A, m’lud.
“Wanting me to be your next toy”? Do you mean when I said you seem to be volunteering to be my next toy?
Words are very important, they cannot be changed to suit. You most certainly are volunteering to be my next toy, whether you are desired as that toy is another thing.
I much prefer trolls that actually are able to back their opinion with discussion points. At the moment your best retort seems to be “text speak” mixed in with year 7 Spanish.
Let’s hope there is more facets to this toy than meets the eye as I will most certainly be hunting out that receipt. | |
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