| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. 18:59 - Jun 26 with 4849 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Numerous senior players have declined considerably and will be soon retired or are already gone.
Those coming through to replace them are much less talented.
Wales will likely have a small group of players who make the bench or start for mid table and bottom-half Premier League teams (Ward, James and Roberts), however the vast majority will do well to spend their careers playing in England's second tier, with brief spells in the Premier League upon promotion etc.
It is a shame so little was achieved by this generation of supremely talented Welsh footballers. Not even a single World Cup finals appearance. |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:03 - Jun 26 with 3836 views | felixstowe_jack |
Only 13 teams have played in a world Cup final. 187 teams have not. Your point is? |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:03 - Jun 26 with 3835 views | guthrieintherain |
Didn't take you long not sure why you post on here never seen you post anything positive about the Swans or Wales.
Another one on ignore that's 2 now. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:28 - Jun 26 with 3773 views | jasper_T |
A decade is a very long time but the next cycle of tournaments will likely be a tougher ask. This one (with the year delay) was really looking like a potential peak, but the former stars dropped off more than expected (Bale's still not quite 32) and their replacements have fallen short of development expectations. Wilson, Brooks, Ampadu, Tyler Roberts all look Championship level when a few years ago they supposedly had the world at their feet.
We were lucky to qualify, lucky to progress, and got beaten by a far better manager more than anything today. The next tournament is going to be tougher, and likely the one after that as well. But give it 5 years and a lot can change. The infrastructure and pathways are there and players can emerge seemingly out of nowhere pretty quickly. | | | |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:38 - Jun 26 with 3760 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I hope Cymru does not paper over the cracks with self congratulation and actually analyse where being outclassed today leaves us. Talented boys like Brooks, Wilson, Neco were extremely sloppy from the moment they came on. Leavng Hal Robson Kanu out was a mistake.
The Danes with unknown players pass the ball with accuracy and got better and better. Wales passing got worse and worse. Joey had a shocker. Frank is a product of the Danish FA and Brentford took over the mantle of Swansea.
Levitt needs to be the first name on the teamsheet. Colwill and Co must come into a team committed to not giving the ball away. Things were on course with Speed. With no Bale Allen and Ramsey livng of Scraps will see us return to 100+ rankings. Wales have some good players coming through but they must come inot a team playing possession football where the team is worth more than the sum of its parts. |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:39 - Jun 26 with 3760 views | max936 |
Nice to read that your feeling your usual positive self Dwight its very uplifting and refreshing,  |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:49 - Jun 26 with 3741 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:39 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Nice to read that your feeling your usual positive self Dwight its very uplifting and refreshing, |
I'm a realist. I'm tired of hearing people tell me "But Brooks/Neco/Tyler Roberts/Ampadu/Wilson are coming through".
They're average second tier players who are much less talented than the players they're replacing.
Wales' future matchday squads will be frightening. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:09 - Jun 26 with 3706 views | onehunglow |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:03 - Jun 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Only 13 teams have played in a world Cup final. 187 teams have not. Your point is? |
Think his point is we are crap.And we are.
No hiding the fact.
We will soon lose Bale and RAmsey
We have a third choice keeper,no striker of quality and a pysspoor midfield.
Brookes and Wilson are overated and not that standard
Sometimes,you just got to suck it up
Dwight is dead right here,like it or not,whoever he is. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:15 - Jun 26 with 3698 views | Badlands |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:09 - Jun 26 by onehunglow |
Think his point is we are crap.And we are.
No hiding the fact.
We will soon lose Bale and RAmsey
We have a third choice keeper,no striker of quality and a pysspoor midfield.
Brookes and Wilson are overated and not that standard
Sometimes,you just got to suck it up
Dwight is dead right here,like it or not,whoever he is. |
You think losing Bale and Ramsey is a negative? |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:19 - Jun 26 with 3682 views | onehunglow |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:15 - Jun 26 by Badlands |
You think losing Bale and Ramsey is a negative? |
lol
Well,who ,pray tell me,are their replacements. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:46 - Jun 26 with 3664 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:28 - Jun 26 by jasper_T |
A decade is a very long time but the next cycle of tournaments will likely be a tougher ask. This one (with the year delay) was really looking like a potential peak, but the former stars dropped off more than expected (Bale's still not quite 32) and their replacements have fallen short of development expectations. Wilson, Brooks, Ampadu, Tyler Roberts all look Championship level when a few years ago they supposedly had the world at their feet.
We were lucky to qualify, lucky to progress, and got beaten by a far better manager more than anything today. The next tournament is going to be tougher, and likely the one after that as well. But give it 5 years and a lot can change. The infrastructure and pathways are there and players can emerge seemingly out of nowhere pretty quickly. |
Jasper knows … |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:53 - Jun 26 with 3656 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 19:38 - Jun 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I hope Cymru does not paper over the cracks with self congratulation and actually analyse where being outclassed today leaves us. Talented boys like Brooks, Wilson, Neco were extremely sloppy from the moment they came on. Leavng Hal Robson Kanu out was a mistake.
The Danes with unknown players pass the ball with accuracy and got better and better. Wales passing got worse and worse. Joey had a shocker. Frank is a product of the Danish FA and Brentford took over the mantle of Swansea.
Levitt needs to be the first name on the teamsheet. Colwill and Co must come into a team committed to not giving the ball away. Things were on course with Speed. With no Bale Allen and Ramsey livng of Scraps will see us return to 100+ rankings. Wales have some good players coming through but they must come inot a team playing possession football where the team is worth more than the sum of its parts. |
Agree but wouldn’t say the Danes have unknown players, pretty much all are playing in top tier leagues all over Europe. |  | | |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:54 - Jun 26 with 3646 views | onehunglow |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:53 - Jun 26 by 34dfgdf54 |
Agree but wouldn’t say the Danes have unknown players, pretty much all are playing in top tier leagues all over Europe. |
And that means they all have to come together for the common good | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 22:17 - Jun 26 with 3593 views | max936 |
Negativity on this forum is astounding and pathetic towards Wales Swans and its the usual suspects, Im amazed on how you all get through day to day life. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 22:28 - Jun 26 with 3581 views | pencoedjack |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 22:17 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Negativity on this forum is astounding and pathetic towards Wales Swans and its the usual suspects, Im amazed on how you all get through day to day life. |
I’m surprised anyone responds to him. |  | | |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 00:47 - Jun 27 with 3497 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I agree, I think welsh football will go through a bit of a lull now, that’s both International and club football.
Neither us or Cardiff are going to be in a position to challenge realistically for promotion for a fair few years. Cardiff have started their fire sale selling Glatzel for 450k after buying him for £5m and are in the bargain basement for signings.
In terms of the International set up, Bale and Ramsey are now on their last legs that after Ashley Williams retiring meaning the most important player in defence, midfield and attack will not be in that side.
While they had promise, Ampadu, James, Brooks tend to flatter to deceive. They are decent accompanying players but as the marquee stars of the side that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and drag us through games... I’m not so sure. Bale and Ramsey have done that for the last decade.
I don’t think this group has underachieved though. It’s been a great ride. Back to back European Championship qualifications, a Semi final and a last 16 place.
No home nation has got as far as we did without having the advantage of a home tournament or vastly reduced team numbers. That’s a legacy that will continue for a long time. |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 10:41 - Jun 27 with 3374 views | guthrieintherain |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 22:28 - Jun 26 by pencoedjack |
I’m surprised anyone responds to him. |
Ignore button is the way forward makes the board far more enjoyable.
Only 3 for me but recommend it. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 10:49 - Jun 27 with 3367 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:15 - Jun 26 by Badlands |
You think losing Bale and Ramsey is a negative? |
Bales move to Madrid has effectively ended his career. He’s lost pace and desire. He tried hard at times yesterday but unfortunately not enough.
Ramsey looked like another version of Hourihane yesterday. He may as well have not been on the pitch. A so called world class player who hides when the going gets tough. Needs to be binned. |  |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 10:55 - Jun 27 with 3358 views | onehunglow |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 22:17 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Negativity on this forum is astounding and pathetic towards Wales Swans and its the usual suspects, Im amazed on how you all get through day to day life. |
The question of dwight is simply who is he.
Kenny Builth has been asked to reveal but when cornered refuses to divulge even though he broached the subject initially.
Try responding to dwight's text. He aint far wrong and poses awkward questions which invariably leads to abuse and the drivel from Fireman about "feeding the troll".
Feed him,make his day,answer him.
Don't run away from the truth
And just who is going to say welsh football looks rosy. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:03 - Jun 27 with 3344 views | BillyChong |
The next decade certainly needs someone more reliable than Giggs in charge | | | |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:10 - Jun 27 with 3330 views | onehunglow |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:03 - Jun 27 by BillyChong |
The next decade certainly needs someone more reliable than Giggs in charge |
Giggs is toast .Surely
Even if found not guilty I d say damage is done.
We need someone who can inspire | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:11 - Jun 27 with 3330 views | Catullus |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 20:19 - Jun 26 by onehunglow |
lol
Well,who ,pray tell me,are their replacements. |
I think Bale has been part of the problem, we constantly look to give himthe ball, even when there are players in better positions, then we've expected him to carry us. It has rarely worked. He has had moments, like the one where he ran the ball from the corner flag and fed Connor to score but apart from a few small flashes he's been poor. Ramsey, before him and Bale conspired to score a fantastic goal, he missed two very good chances. Our pundits all rave on about Bale and Ramsey like they're the only two out there. We need a proper team not a two man band with a supporting choir. We need them to play for each other and make beter choices in game.
Turning down a good, wasy pass to look for Bale and Ramsey has cost us, has gotten us into trouble at times, we could be better.
Saying all that, what do people expect? We are a small country with limited resources,even Denmark are nearly twice our size, population wise. In fact, population wise weren't we the 2nd smallest country in the Euro's? As such we did very well. Only North Macedonia are smaller and what did they do? | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:16 - Jun 27 with 3323 views | onehunglow |
Bang on. Quite how the other players must feel I don’t know.possibly like extras in a Biblical epic.
Bale ,as I said, many months ago is shot to pieces. The easy life,the 15 minute cameos for 500 k per week have caught up with him.
Ramsey has flopped in Juventus as many before him have. He s been found out.
Welsh media is cardiffcentric and this is not English media doing.
Finally ,Mark Hughes . Just how could any of his players be inspired by him. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:26 - Jun 27 with 3321 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:16 - Jun 27 by onehunglow |
Bang on. Quite how the other players must feel I don’t know.possibly like extras in a Biblical epic.
Bale ,as I said, many months ago is shot to pieces. The easy life,the 15 minute cameos for 500 k per week have caught up with him.
Ramsey has flopped in Juventus as many before him have. He s been found out.
Welsh media is cardiffcentric and this is not English media doing.
Finally ,Mark Hughes . Just how could any of his players be inspired by him. |
11 goals in 20 Premier League appearances (923 minutes) for Spurs is very good.
That's a goal every 83 mins (pretty sure that was the best record in the whole league).
Kane scored 1 every 134 mins for reference, Son was 1 every 183 mins.
Bale is far from done if he doesn't want to be, clubs just need to adapt his role slightly and be more like a Berbatov. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 11:32]
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 12:41 - Jun 27 with 3281 views | Catullus |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 11:26 - Jun 27 by Dr_Parnassus |
11 goals in 20 Premier League appearances (923 minutes) for Spurs is very good.
That's a goal every 83 mins (pretty sure that was the best record in the whole league).
Kane scored 1 every 134 mins for reference, Son was 1 every 183 mins.
Bale is far from done if he doesn't want to be, clubs just need to adapt his role slightly and be more like a Berbatov. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 11:32]
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Playing for Tottenham is a vastly different thing to playing for Wales. To start with there are much better players all over the field, Davies plays better for Spurs. Then take the oppo into account, Tottenham are top oppo, Wales would be more like playing for Swansea. Don't forget Balw struggled when he first arrived though that may have been down to the manager. | |
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| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 12:53 - Jun 27 with 3272 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The next decade for Welsh football looks extremely bleak. on 12:41 - Jun 27 by Catullus |
Playing for Tottenham is a vastly different thing to playing for Wales. To start with there are much better players all over the field, Davies plays better for Spurs. Then take the oppo into account, Tottenham are top oppo, Wales would be more like playing for Swansea. Don't forget Balw struggled when he first arrived though that may have been down to the manager. |
Well yes, of course, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he scored 11 in 20 appearances for Spurs. Ronaldo scores more at club level than International level as does Messi, largely for the same reasons that there are better players around them at club level.
But that doesn’t detract from their club ability. | |
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