| Trump 09:43 - Oct 27 with 133485 views | Hooparoo |
An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first. |  |
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| Trump on 08:08 - Nov 4 with 2273 views | nix |
Trump wins Ohio and Missouri, which usually chooses the eventual winner. Going to the wire. It looks like people's concerns about the economy may carry him over despite the CV shambles. |  | | |
| Trump on 08:10 - Nov 4 with 2269 views | Juzzie |
| Trump on 08:01 - Nov 4 by LythamR |
unsurprisingly crazy, from what i see it looks like he is going to win it anyway, unless he knows something he shouldnt about the mail in ballots still to be counted |
In the video above it said a lot of Biden voters will more than likely have voted by post so if that’s the case it’s no surprise he want the counting stopped while it’s currently in his favour.
He may yet win, even if marginally, but postal voting is part of the electoral process so has to take its full course. The fact its taking longer this time, mainly due to coronavirus, is irrelevant. |  | | |
| Trump on 08:16 - Nov 4 with 2247 views | traininvain |
Biden’s won Arizona which is big. He can now win without Pennsylvania if he wins Wisconsin and Michigan.
It’s going to be close. Main takeaway is that trump would’ve walked this without Covid. |  | | |
| Trump on 08:19 - Nov 4 with 2236 views | Watford_Ranger |
Desperately trying to stop millions of votes counting in the name of democracy. Grim. Not that we’re any better. |  | | |
| Trump on 08:24 - Nov 4 with 2192 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Very much the postal vote will decide it, it favours Biden but who knows but Trump has always feared the postal vote. |  |
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| Trump on 08:26 - Nov 4 with 2201 views | Northernr |
Next time somebody presents me with a political opinion poll they will cordially be invited to get in the fcking sea. |  | | |
| Trump on 08:37 - Nov 4 with 2160 views | MrSheen |
Hundreds, if not thousands, of elections across the country and about ten changes.
On Clive's point, I've got to 56 and never been contacted by an opinion poller. Do they just ring each other up?
PPS, if you think this is the worst mess ever, put a wet towel on your head, set aside 30 minutes and read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1876_United_States_presidential_election
Better still, read Gore Vidal's 1876. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 8:41]
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| Trump on 08:41 - Nov 4 with 2143 views | R_from_afar |
The USA has now officially left the Paris Climate accord, a huge setback in the fight against climate change. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Trump on 09:09 - Nov 4 with 2068 views | bosh67 |
This all feels very predictable.
We hate Trump, he's a moron, loose canon, doesn't speak for me, not my President, embarrassment, crazy loon, monster...
So who did you vote for?
... Well despite that we still voted Republican. |  |
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| Trump on 09:11 - Nov 4 with 2065 views | GaryT |
Wisconsin, North Carolina and Georgia look like going to Trump. Biden needs a big blue shift in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Everyone's attention is on Pennsylvania so if Trump concentrates his lawyers on Michigan, he could win.
I don't get it, what are the Americans seeing in Trump that the rest of us aren't seeing? Apart from shooting somebody in fifth avenue, he's done everything that would normally cost you the presidency. I don't get it. |  | | |
| Trump on 09:13 - Nov 4 with 2056 views | traininvain |
| Trump on 08:26 - Nov 4 by Northernr |
Next time somebody presents me with a political opinion poll they will cordially be invited to get in the fcking sea. |
Hate to be that guy but if polls were super accurate we wouldn’t bother having elections. They’re usually a good bellwether in this country. US much more unpredictable, not sure if that’s because of how many voters there are or what.
Anyway, Biden is going to win and if he has any sense he’ll reach across the aisle. A shitload of people have voted for Trump. | | | |
| Trump on 09:19 - Nov 4 with 2029 views | DavieQPR |
Maybe when you improve the economy, improve employment, stop jobs going abroad and put money in the pocket of ordinary Americans they like that. Even if it does upset the establishment and high tech companies. Still they have taken the unprecedented step to stop counting votes until later causing more chaos. |  | | |
| Trump on 09:20 - Nov 4 with 2029 views | TheChef |
| Trump on 09:09 - Nov 4 by bosh67 |
This all feels very predictable.
We hate Trump, he's a moron, loose canon, doesn't speak for me, not my President, embarrassment, crazy loon, monster...
So who did you vote for?
... Well despite that we still voted Republican. |
Well, when you have the democratic equivalent of the Pepsi Challenge...
I've always found it bizarre how in the US it comes down to a choice between two candidates. |  |
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| Trump on 09:33 - Nov 4 with 1972 views | wood_hoop |
| Trump on 09:13 - Nov 4 by traininvain |
Hate to be that guy but if polls were super accurate we wouldn’t bother having elections. They’re usually a good bellwether in this country. US much more unpredictable, not sure if that’s because of how many voters there are or what.
Anyway, Biden is going to win and if he has any sense he’ll reach across the aisle. A shitload of people have voted for Trump. |
Watching the news channels this morning it seems there are a fair amount of 'shy Trump voters' , no wonder the pollsters seem to not give accurate figures.
If it comes to hiding your political affiliations just what kind of politicians are being produced? , were not much better this side of the pond, we have it seems the 'shy Tory vote' is this because that voters are now actually believing wholly the monetary guff produced as policies and the fear mongering based on complete lies,
Pollsters say they use a 2-3% swing in their calculations, better adjust that to 20-30%. |  | | |
| Trump on 09:38 - Nov 4 with 1947 views | francisbowles |
| Trump on 21:52 - Nov 3 by GloryHunter |
"Agree that Biden was the most neutral and least controversial character that the democrat party could put up."
The odd thing for me about US elections is that the opposition doesn't have a recognised "leader" who might be elected to replace the sitting president. They've had three years of Trump, and then in the fourth year the Democrats decide to have a competition to choose a candidate for President. As though it hadn't occurred to them before.
It makes me think of people in supermarket check-out queues who pack all their shopping back in the basket, and then the guy tells them how much the bill is, and only then do they start looking for their purse or wallet to pay. They've had ten minutes waiting for that - why was it such a surprise? |
I'm no expert on the USA election process but isn't that the way they do things. Both parties have a process of 'primaries' where they get to choose a candidate for the presidency.
I believe that even a sitting president has to be selected over others from his party who wish to become their party's nomination for the presidency. | | | |
| Trump on 09:43 - Nov 4 with 1929 views | GaryT |
With 7% of votes left to count, Wisconsin looked like it was going to Trump but now that 95% have been counted, it's swung back to Biden. Blimey, it does look like a huge percentage of mail in votes went to Biden. | | | |
| Trump on 09:52 - Nov 4 with 1884 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Trump on 09:43 - Nov 4 by GaryT |
With 7% of votes left to count, Wisconsin looked like it was going to Trump but now that 95% have been counted, it's swung back to Biden. Blimey, it does look like a huge percentage of mail in votes went to Biden. |
In about 2 hours the result should be known there. | |
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| Trump on 10:02 - Nov 4 with 1864 views | traininvain |
| Trump on 09:43 - Nov 4 by GaryT |
With 7% of votes left to count, Wisconsin looked like it was going to Trump but now that 95% have been counted, it's swung back to Biden. Blimey, it does look like a huge percentage of mail in votes went to Biden. |
Expect the same in Michigan and Pennsylvania but I think the latter will go to trump as Biden had a lower lead in the polls.
Georgia looks interesting. If Biden flips Georgia and holds his lead in Arizona, Nevada and Wisconsin then he’ll only need Michigan I think. | | | |
| Trump on 10:10 - Nov 4 with 1821 views | DannyPaddox |
| Trump on 09:13 - Nov 4 by traininvain |
Hate to be that guy but if polls were super accurate we wouldn’t bother having elections. They’re usually a good bellwether in this country. US much more unpredictable, not sure if that’s because of how many voters there are or what.
Anyway, Biden is going to win and if he has any sense he’ll reach across the aisle. A shitload of people have voted for Trump. |
A load of shÃt people have voted for Trump you say. |  | | |
| Trump on 10:15 - Nov 4 with 1806 views | MrSheen |
There's a shifting of the plates under the surface. Starr County in Texas, right on the border, has the highest proportion of Latino voters in the country, about 90%. It went for Clinton by 60% in 2016, for Biden by 5% this time. | | | |
| Trump on 10:32 - Nov 4 with 2420 views | GloryHunter |
| Trump on 09:11 - Nov 4 by GaryT |
Wisconsin, North Carolina and Georgia look like going to Trump. Biden needs a big blue shift in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Everyone's attention is on Pennsylvania so if Trump concentrates his lawyers on Michigan, he could win.
I don't get it, what are the Americans seeing in Trump that the rest of us aren't seeing? Apart from shooting somebody in fifth avenue, he's done everything that would normally cost you the presidency. I don't get it. |
They've believed Trump's lies about "the economy". Trump presents a rising stockmarket as the only measure of economic success, but it has zero effect on working peoples' incomes or standard of living. |  | | |
| Trump on 10:42 - Nov 4 with 2359 views | rrrspricey |
| Trump on 09:13 - Nov 4 by traininvain |
Hate to be that guy but if polls were super accurate we wouldn’t bother having elections. They’re usually a good bellwether in this country. US much more unpredictable, not sure if that’s because of how many voters there are or what.
Anyway, Biden is going to win and if he has any sense he’ll reach across the aisle. A shitload of people have voted for Trump. |
What the pollsters don't take into account is people are embarrassed to admit they're voting for Trump...hardly surprising when you consider what he's done in the pat 4 years.
A damning 2 minutes! |  | | |
| Trump on 10:51 - Nov 4 with 2317 views | londonscottish |
I think this is very much the point that the Democrats have missed in their endless attempts to call out the bad character of Trump rather than talk about his policies.
When he came in he said he would stimulate the US economy by tax cuts and regulatory reform. He also lent on US firms to repatriate jobs that had been offshored previously.
People in the rust belt have noticed the effects and like it.
As someone said years ago, "It's all about the economy, stupid". And it often tends to be.
Anyway, Trump's strategists have honed in these messages to take the traditional Democrat votes the swing states and it looks like it might have worked. |  |
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| Trump on 10:53 - Nov 4 with 2308 views | slmrstid |
The whole thing is utterly mental, and the same time completely absorbing.
That's about as much as I'm going to contribute on it without going in over my head.
I did read this earlier though that a friend sent through a group chat. Just a quirk of timing more than anything more sinister I'm sure, but its an interesting counter point to the claim of dead people using mail-in ballots earlier in this thread...a dead person (from Covid-19 no less) being elected! Albeit what I think is local level, not national.
https://www.fox9.com/news/north-dakota-legislature-candidate-who-died-from-covid [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 10:54]
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