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Trump 09:43 - Oct 27 with 133473 viewsHooparoo

An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first.

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Trump on 16:22 - Oct 28 with 2980 viewsKonk

Trump on 16:12 - Oct 28 by Match82

He's made things happen in the middle east, whether that's positive progress or not is in the eye of the beholder. But certainly you can't use "he's done nothing" against him

I'm not against what he's trying to do in China either though his methods are a bit aggressive for my tastes and again you can question whether the US is "winning" from those deals

Where i have a major issues with Trump is how he incites division and hatred within the population, which has brought the entire country to boiling point. Politics is an absolute joke and while he promised to "drain the swamp" and as a non politician some people thought he'd be best places to do that, instead he's presiding over not only seismic divisions in the country but the most partisan Senate in history. It's more of a political game now than it's ever been, gone are the days of senators voting for what they believe in (regardless of political affiliation) and instead everything is just along party lines.

Take the recent supreme court confirmation. Democrats never really gave her a chance. And Republicans would have voted for anyone who was nominated without a single question. It's a joke. And Trump is the main instigator of all of it.


I think the Democrats thing with ACB in the Supreme Court was the absolute pi ss take over not even giving Merrick Garland a hearing, something like 270 days before the 2016 election, citing the fact that it was an election year. Their argument being that the people should be allowed to influence the decision via the election, with the next President getting his/her pick. There are loads of GOP Senators on film/Twitter/in print at the time, stating that they would oppose a Republican President trying to install a Supreme Court justice in the same circumstances in 2020. The hypocrisy is breath-taking.

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Trump on 16:28 - Oct 28 with 2961 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Trump on 16:12 - Oct 28 by Konk

Well, I'm not sure that shifting the US embassy to Jerusalem does a lot for Palestinians. And as below, Netanyahu himself has said that further annexation is simply paused at the moment as part of the normalisation process:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53770859

"In a TV address Mr Netanyahu said he had "delayed" West Bank annexation plans, but those plans remain "on the table". Annexation would make some West Bank areas officially part of Israel.

"There is no change in my plan to apply our sovereignty to Judea and Samaria [West Bank] in full co-ordination with the US. I'm committed to it. That hasn't changed. I remind you that I was the one who put the issue of sovereignty over Judea and Samaria on the table. This issue remains on the table," he said."


Well said, Konk.

His work assisting Israel breach numerous U.N. resolutions in their illegal annexation of Palestine is absolutely criminal in my opinion.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Trump on 16:30 - Oct 28 with 2951 viewsBrianMcCarthy

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



I disagree Clive, as per my reply to Konk's post.

No rant, no offence. We just see this one differently.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Trump on 16:31 - Oct 28 with 2944 viewsBrianMcCarthy

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



"...but it is equal hypocrisy from the Democrats who were arguing the opposite then to what they are arguing now."

That's my recollection too, Clive.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Trump on 17:09 - Oct 28 with 2853 viewsJuzzie

Trump on 15:04 - Oct 28 by 2Thomas2Bowles

You mean like Bush and Blair?

And how about Vietnam, Grenada. Was that Trump

He is hardly a dictator of the US, you need to calm down a bit.
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Calm down? Give it a rest.

I wasn't being hyper. Just a slightly tongue-in-cheek comment trying to describe a man who is obviously a control freak.

And by the way, did I say he had gone marching into other countries? No, I said he was akin to the kind of Dictator that his predecessors had gone in to oust.

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Trump on 17:16 - Oct 28 with 2840 viewsKonk

Trump on 16:31 - Oct 28 by BrianMcCarthy

"...but it is equal hypocrisy from the Democrats who were arguing the opposite then to what they are arguing now."

That's my recollection too, Clive.


2016 - GOP refuse Merrick Garland a hearing because it's an Election year - he's nominated 237 days before the election (I was wrong earlier, saying 270 days or something). Loads of prominent GOP Senators go on record stating that they would similarly oppose a Republican President nominating/installing a Supreme Court Justice in 2020 or future election years. GOP control the Senate, so the position remains vacant for the remainder of Obama's presidency.

2020 - RBG dies after Early voting has already begun, GOP rush to nominate ACB, and she is appointed to the Supreme Court just over a week before the election. The GOP justify this by saying the Supreme Court may be required to rule on Election results, so can't have a potential 4-4 split. This strangely, wasn't a concern for the GOP in 2016.

The GOP set a precedent in 2016 - the Dems have pointed to that precedent in 2020 and argued that the vacancy should have remained, to be filled by either Trump or Biden after the election. The Dem position re leaving vacancies open in an election year is simply asking that the GOP stick to the precedent they set just four years ago.

Given the Dems are asking that the GOP follow their own, 4 year old precedent, how is the Dem position in 2020 hypocrisy?

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Trump on 17:41 - Oct 28 with 2800 viewsR_from_afar

Trump on 15:42 - Oct 28 by Konk

Yeah, he's done a great job in the Middle-East unless you're a Palestinian, a Kurd or a Saudi dissident journalist. Normalizing relations between Israel and the UAE & Bahrain - the Holy Grail for US and European foreign policy. Remarkable. The Sudanese Government might not even have the authority to normalise relations with Israel.


...and that's without even mentioning Iran. Trying to stop a large nation selling the one commodity - oil - on which its economy depends does not make for a safer world.

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Trump on 18:30 - Oct 28 with 2752 viewsGaryT

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



The Democratic argument is that Lindsey Graham said he would not confirm a judge to the Supreme Court if a position became available in the final year of a presidency and to use his words against him should he do so. By ramming through ACB, he's lowered the bar to the floor and nothing he says from this day forward means jack shit.

The lines have now been drawn in the sand and Trump/Graham and McConnell have made it clear that anything goes. If Biden doesn't win by a huge margin, The USA is in big trouble.
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Trump on 19:07 - Oct 28 with 2702 viewstraininvain

Trump on 18:30 - Oct 28 by GaryT

The Democratic argument is that Lindsey Graham said he would not confirm a judge to the Supreme Court if a position became available in the final year of a presidency and to use his words against him should he do so. By ramming through ACB, he's lowered the bar to the floor and nothing he says from this day forward means jack shit.

The lines have now been drawn in the sand and Trump/Graham and McConnell have made it clear that anything goes. If Biden doesn't win by a huge margin, The USA is in big trouble.
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Conversely, if Biden does win and the Dems take the senate then he’ll be under immediate pressure from the likes of AOC to ‘rebalance‘ the Supreme Court by increasing the number of judges.

And Republicans would only have themselves to blame for lowering the bar.
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Trump on 20:32 - Oct 28 with 2647 viewsqprd

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



Lol. Do you really take this at face value?

This is totally unprecedented. There is no case that falls into this fact pattern in the entire history of Supreme Court confirmations.

The Republicans are trying to defend their inconsistency by citing some irrelevant distinguishing factor (that has never been the basis for prior confirmation processes). Mitch McConnell intiially argued that the Republicans should proceed with the nomination b/c they were given a mandate by the American people in the 2018 election (i.e., they held a 51-49 majority after the midterms, in which only 1/3 of Senate seats were up for re-election).... ignoring the irony that if they were interested in a "mandate", they'd wait until the election literally a month later.... if not this nonsensical argument from grassley, they might argue that this is the precedent in years where there are pandemics or when QPR is in the championship or leapyears. they were clearly looking for some distinguishing factor.

Its genuinely quite disturbing to me that any one could buy such absolute nonsense. Either you're (i) misinformed, or (ii) so gullible and dogmatic that you'll accept anything your side says as the truth.

If you want to say its a power grab, and that the republicans are doing it because they can and they're in power, that's perfectly valid. If you want to say that the Democrats might've done the same thing if in this situation, again fine.

But when people believe statements like these, it shows that they've shut off their brains.
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Trump on 21:05 - Oct 28 with 2585 viewslarsricchi

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



To be fair, Clive, as someone who lives in Iowa, the second I saw a link to Grassley's website, it was so close to an automatic user block for me.

Rather, I need to ask myself why I'm reading political threads on the website where I go to escape from the nonstop noise!
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Trump on 21:10 - Oct 28 with 2580 viewsitsbiga

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



No one knows what he offered to get these deals done. Think about it. A political win for Trump comes at a huge cost somewhere. He's basically done a deal with The Saudis and Netanyahu etc... Those dudes would rob him blind. For Trump he wouldn't care what the cost is to the USA only himself.

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Trump on 21:19 - Oct 28 with 2561 viewsMatch82

Trump on 19:07 - Oct 28 by traininvain

Conversely, if Biden does win and the Dems take the senate then he’ll be under immediate pressure from the likes of AOC to ‘rebalance‘ the Supreme Court by increasing the number of judges.

And Republicans would only have themselves to blame for lowering the bar.


Supreme court needs an overhaul. Putting extra left leaning judges on their is creating a terrifying precedent. Used to be that judges were appointed based on agreement from both sides and considered thought for the nomination. These days it's about getting the most far right or far left justice in there that you can, as well as making them as young as possible because they serve for life. It's a political game, again. So change it. Let the Democrats elect 5, the Republicans elect 5 and have 5 legitimate swing judges who are appointed by both parties. I accept that there are still potential issues with those middle 5 but they should at least have a history of bi partisan rulings.

What's the point of having a panel of justices where you know before a case even comes up how 90% of them are going to rule?
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Trump on 22:15 - Oct 28 with 2520 viewsbosh67

Trump on 14:54 - Oct 28 by Juzzie

Trump is turning into a Dictator. You know, the sort of Dictator that the USA happily went marching into other countries to get rid of.


Trump is playing the David Koresh playbook. Portray yourself as a God and cult leader and get your subjects to pledge allegiance and/or die for you. It's playing out in front of our eyes and Trump has a lot of cult followers. So many that I expect him to win.

Never knowingly right.
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Trump on 22:56 - Oct 28 with 2476 viewsqprd

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



reading comprehension... i didnt make the mandate argument. i said that the argument that mitch mcconnell made is ironic (considering he cited a mandate on the back of a senate election in which 1/3 of seats were up for election)

I disagree with this part, the president has a mandate up to the next election. Saying it's near the next election, so the mandate doesn't count anymore is nonsense.

if thats the case, can you say that the republicans were wrong in 2016 on merrick garland?
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Trump on 23:21 - Oct 28 with 2452 viewstimcocking

The democrats have certainly been doing anything in their power to make anybody with even a modicum of sense to vote against them. It's an unfortunate choice, Trump or the looney left wing racist party. Sweet Jesus talk about a lose-lose.
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Trump on 12:49 - Oct 29 with 2318 viewstraininvain

For anyone buying the Hunter Biden conspiracy being pushed by Trump, this is the level of crazy that you’re buying into: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-only-copy-of-documen

It’d be laughable if people weren’t so gullible.
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Trump on 13:03 - Oct 29 with 2290 viewsJuzzie

Trump on 23:21 - Oct 28 by timcocking

The democrats have certainly been doing anything in their power to make anybody with even a modicum of sense to vote against them. It's an unfortunate choice, Trump or the looney left wing racist party. Sweet Jesus talk about a lose-lose.


With all the s**t going on in the world, maybe they don't actually want to be having to deal with it!


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Trump on 16:59 - Oct 29 with 2192 viewsrobith

Trump on 23:21 - Oct 28 by timcocking

The democrats have certainly been doing anything in their power to make anybody with even a modicum of sense to vote against them. It's an unfortunate choice, Trump or the looney left wing racist party. Sweet Jesus talk about a lose-lose.


you really need to broaden your mind if you think the Democrats are left wing
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Trump on 17:23 - Oct 29 with 2174 viewsDavieQPR

Does anybody actually think that Biden will last more than 6 months before Harris takes over. She couldn't get the Democrats vote the legitimate way so they are pushing her through the back door.
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Trump on 17:32 - Oct 29 with 2869 viewsrrrspricey

Trump on 23:21 - Oct 28 by timcocking

The democrats have certainly been doing anything in their power to make anybody with even a modicum of sense to vote against them. It's an unfortunate choice, Trump or the looney left wing racist party. Sweet Jesus talk about a lose-lose.


Are you seriously saying that Trump/republicans aren't racist????
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Trump on 17:34 - Oct 29 with 2825 views2Thomas2Bowles

Trump on 17:32 - Oct 29 by rrrspricey

Are you seriously saying that Trump/republicans aren't racist????


It's not just limited to one party

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Trump on 10:14 - Oct 30 with 2707 viewsrobith

If anyone wants a betting angle Trump polls 15% up on "on the day" voters, Biden 53% up on mail in ballots etc.

Likely early counts will skew Trump, so Biden will drift - then back him before he comes in as the later votes are counted.

Will take your mind off the fact Trump will definitely use this to try and launch some kind of coup d'etat
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Trump on 12:28 - Oct 30 with 2633 viewsMatch82

Trump on 10:14 - Oct 30 by robith

If anyone wants a betting angle Trump polls 15% up on "on the day" voters, Biden 53% up on mail in ballots etc.

Likely early counts will skew Trump, so Biden will drift - then back him before he comes in as the later votes are counted.

Will take your mind off the fact Trump will definitely use this to try and launch some kind of coup d'etat


To add a twist to that though, some mail in ballots will be counted early (counting has already begun) so you'll get an early read on election day before the in person numbers are counted. It's state by state but florida, arguably the biggest state realistically "up for grabs" is one of them that starts counting early.
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Trump on 12:39 - Oct 30 with 2619 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Trump on 12:28 - Oct 30 by Match82

To add a twist to that though, some mail in ballots will be counted early (counting has already begun) so you'll get an early read on election day before the in person numbers are counted. It's state by state but florida, arguably the biggest state realistically "up for grabs" is one of them that starts counting early.


And Michigan and Wisconsin will accept ballots posted before election day for three days afterwards though their Supreme Courts may overrule this AFTER the election!

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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