| Lewis Hamilton 21:45 - Jun 9 with 3577 views | Darran |
This is the kind of thing that Sir Geoff Palmer was getting at earlier when he was saying people need to know history their.
This bloke drives for a company that used use forced slaves supplied by the Nazis in their factories during the war and he also advertises suits made by a company that supplied uniforms for the SS.
This is a mess.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/amp/formula1/52967675?__twitter_impression=true
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| Lewis Hamilton on 00:01 - Jun 10 with 1165 views | Darran |
| Lewis Hamilton on 23:55 - Jun 9 by FieryJack |
Alan Bennett would agree.
He's an acerbic defender of such institutions.
I doubt anyone would ever have heard of him were it not for his childhood visits to his local library in the rough area of Armley, Leeds - probably now closed. |
I’d love to see Talking Heads get back together. 😉 | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 04:11 - Jun 10 with 1120 views | NotLoyal |
| Lewis Hamilton on 22:07 - Jun 9 by BrynCartwright |
It's only people and individuals that can be racist, not businesses.
None of the rabid racists that ran Mercedes or Hugo Boss back in WW2 are still alive. |
That's a bit like saying countries can't be racist because the populus of the time are all dead. We had about ten years of apologies once from world leaders for all their ancestors misdoings. Anyway he lives, in a neutral country, he should shut the fck up 😉 |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 08:31 - Jun 10 with 1053 views | jack247 |
Lewis Hamilton has got every right to say that. Being successful and making your money in an almost exclusively Caucasian sport doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed an opinion on racial prejudice, or that you’re a hypocrite for expressing it. |  | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 08:56 - Jun 10 with 1029 views | felixstowe_jack |
It seems we are now in a mass hysteria era where everyone white is a racist and has to be re-educated.
Could it be Mccarthyism witch hunt or Pol Pot or even the Chinese re-education of their Muslim citizens.
Over 100 labour councils now see it as their priority to do an audit of their statutes in a " virtue signaling" exercise just so they can gain extra votes. All this will do is to divide the nation and pit races against each other. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 09:41 - Jun 10 with 1001 views | dickythorpe |
Why anyone would take Lewis Hamilton seriously is beyond me. |  | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 09:55 - Jun 10 with 986 views | Darran |
| Lewis Hamilton on 08:31 - Jun 10 by jack247 |
Lewis Hamilton has got every right to say that. Being successful and making your money in an almost exclusively Caucasian sport doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed an opinion on racial prejudice, or that you’re a hypocrite for expressing it. |
Of course he’s got every right to say but other people don’t seem to have the same right,especially on here to say he’s a prick for being associated with former Nazi supporting companies. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 10:11 - Jun 10 with 971 views | Ace_Jack |
| Lewis Hamilton on 09:55 - Jun 10 by Darran |
Of course he’s got every right to say but other people don’t seem to have the same right,especially on here to say he’s a prick for being associated with former Nazi supporting companies. |
why don't you just make a thread where you just list all the black people who annoy you next to all the white people you agree with who are "right on" about systemic racism. You may not get all the attention you crave but it will save everyone else's time. |  | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 10:17 - Jun 10 with 965 views | Catullus |
If we remove everything that has historicl links to racism, slavery, the Holocaust etc there will be next to nothing left.
What do we do then, start culling the family members of slave traders, former Nazi's etc?
I agree with you Darran, Hamilton is a hypocrite, most probably an unwitting one though because he probably doesn't even know about those links.
Joshua is a hypocrite for saying blacks use black owned shops but still taking millions from white owned businesses. Do any of the said businesses have any dodgy history?
It's a very mucky business all around and it's way out of hand now. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 10:21 - Jun 10 with 961 views | Darran |
| Lewis Hamilton on 10:11 - Jun 10 by Ace_Jack |
why don't you just make a thread where you just list all the black people who annoy you next to all the white people you agree with who are "right on" about systemic racism. You may not get all the attention you crave but it will save everyone else's time. |
Lewis Hamilton doesn’t annoy me I quite like him. I read an interview about his brother quite recently,it made me quite tearful. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 10:25 - Jun 10 with 955 views | Darran |
| Lewis Hamilton on 10:17 - Jun 10 by Catullus |
If we remove everything that has historicl links to racism, slavery, the Holocaust etc there will be next to nothing left.
What do we do then, start culling the family members of slave traders, former Nazi's etc?
I agree with you Darran, Hamilton is a hypocrite, most probably an unwitting one though because he probably doesn't even know about those links.
Joshua is a hypocrite for saying blacks use black owned shops but still taking millions from white owned businesses. Do any of the said businesses have any dodgy history?
It's a very mucky business all around and it's way out of hand now. |
People don’t want to talk about it you can see that from Ace Jacks reply.
If you state any true facts anymore that doesn’t suit either side there’s a massive furore about it.
You’re getting to the stage,especially on here again where is Donald Trump said grass is green you’d have people like Acey,Humpty etc telling you he’s wrong.
It’s pathetic. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 10:52 - Jun 10 with 944 views | Catullus |
| Lewis Hamilton on 10:25 - Jun 10 by Darran |
People don’t want to talk about it you can see that from Ace Jacks reply.
If you state any true facts anymore that doesn’t suit either side there’s a massive furore about it.
You’re getting to the stage,especially on here again where is Donald Trump said grass is green you’d have people like Acey,Humpty etc telling you he’s wrong.
It’s pathetic. |
Again I agree and that's the way the world has gone. Everything gets polarised and people only accept anything is true if it backs their side up.
Take Kerouacs thread, it turns out Farage was right about the BLM wanting to defund the police but would a BLM supporter accept that? No doubt others will be along soon to tell us the BLM page doesn't say what it says and that we clearly don't understand it.
It happens on all sorts of threads. People don't want to talk about things because they can't hear any opinion which doesn't match their own without getting triggered. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 11:00 - Jun 10 with 938 views | Darran |
| Lewis Hamilton on 10:52 - Jun 10 by Catullus |
Again I agree and that's the way the world has gone. Everything gets polarised and people only accept anything is true if it backs their side up.
Take Kerouacs thread, it turns out Farage was right about the BLM wanting to defund the police but would a BLM supporter accept that? No doubt others will be along soon to tell us the BLM page doesn't say what it says and that we clearly don't understand it.
It happens on all sorts of threads. People don't want to talk about things because they can't hear any opinion which doesn't match their own without getting triggered. |
Great post and so true. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 19:37 - Jun 10 with 851 views | leighton1318 |
| Lewis Hamilton on 23:32 - Jun 9 by FieryJack |
That's a completely false argument.
I expect the greatest destruction of statues in the 20th century took place in Eastern Europe in the 1990s, when huge statues of Lenin were tumbling all over the place.
I don't think there's any chance of of the Polish, the Czechs, the Hungarians etc forgetting their hated communist pasts.
If you want to know your history, forget the statues and just read the effing history books. |
Good to note that whilst the Hungarians were not averse to pulling down the odd statue, they did a very sensible and elegant repositioning of their history, post 1989, with all the old Commie-era statues being put in a memorial park. People could visit, and learn and reflect, at their leisure about the past, whilst recognising it was off centre now. It’s a popular tourist destination.
http://m.mementopark.hu/#facts
PS they changed a lot of road names too. You could tell who was ‘old school’ or not by what name they used for some of the main streets ... not in a bad way, usually, though. | | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 20:44 - Jun 10 with 821 views | FieryJack |
| Lewis Hamilton on 19:37 - Jun 10 by leighton1318 |
Good to note that whilst the Hungarians were not averse to pulling down the odd statue, they did a very sensible and elegant repositioning of their history, post 1989, with all the old Commie-era statues being put in a memorial park. People could visit, and learn and reflect, at their leisure about the past, whilst recognising it was off centre now. It’s a popular tourist destination.
http://m.mementopark.hu/#facts
PS they changed a lot of road names too. You could tell who was ‘old school’ or not by what name they used for some of the main streets ... not in a bad way, usually, though. |
I still haven't got round to visiting Budapest.
When I do I'll take a look at this memento park. |  | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 20:53 - Jun 10 with 812 views | Flashberryjack |
| Lewis Hamilton on 09:41 - Jun 10 by dickythorpe |
Why anyone would take Lewis Hamilton seriously is beyond me. |
Because he's been world motor racing champion several times, and he has the most wonderful dress sense. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 21:12 - Jun 10 with 794 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Lewis Hamilton on 20:44 - Jun 10 by FieryJack |
I still haven't got round to visiting Budapest.
When I do I'll take a look at this memento park. |
When you do Fiery, you must visit the house of terror. It's an astonishing museum. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 21:25 - Jun 10 with 785 views | BrynCartwright |
| Lewis Hamilton on 09:41 - Jun 10 by dickythorpe |
Why anyone would take Lewis Hamilton seriously is beyond me. |
He is very, very good at driving a car very, very fast indeed. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 21:28 - Jun 10 with 781 views | BrynCartwright |
| Lewis Hamilton on 22:07 - Jun 9 by BrynCartwright |
It's only people and individuals that can be racist, not businesses.
None of the rabid racists that ran Mercedes or Hugo Boss back in WW2 are still alive. |
I really don't understand why Felix Jack downvoted me on this one? Could someone please explain? Surely being sponsored now by Boss and Mercedes cannot be criticised in any way? They are completely different organisations now with different people in charge/ | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 21:42 - Jun 10 with 770 views | Kerouac |
| Lewis Hamilton on 21:28 - Jun 10 by BrynCartwright |
I really don't understand why Felix Jack downvoted me on this one? Could someone please explain? Surely being sponsored now by Boss and Mercedes cannot be criticised in any way? They are completely different organisations now with different people in charge/ |
I agree with Bryn, even though I'm sure he has long since decided that I am a bit of a c*nt.
I think those that were saying something along the lines of; 'well in that case you can't buy this or that or anything Japanese' etc.
...missed the point, big time.
You cannot punish the sons(/grandsons/great grandsons/great-great grandsons etc.) for the sins of their fathers.
That is immoral, unjust, and ultimately will blow up in your face.
Which is why this attempt at destroying this country's history and culture is not going to end well for those involved.
A massive own goal. |  |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 22:43 - Jun 10 with 732 views | FieryJack |
| Lewis Hamilton on 21:12 - Jun 10 by Joe_bradshaw |
When you do Fiery, you must visit the house of terror. It's an astonishing museum. |
The House of Terror?
I visit it every time I come on this site 😊
Joking aside, thanks for the suggestion.
A couple of years ago I was in a place called Cesky Krumlov in the Czech Republic, where they had a place called the Museum of Torture, but it only had Luke warm reviews so I didn't bother with it. | | | |
| Lewis Hamilton on 00:30 - Jun 11 with 698 views | NotLoyal |
| Lewis Hamilton on 08:31 - Jun 10 by jack247 |
Lewis Hamilton has got every right to say that. Being successful and making your money in an almost exclusively Caucasian sport doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed an opinion on racial prejudice, or that you’re a hypocrite for expressing it. |
Thing is he is successful because he is good at what he does, bloke fitted my kitchen door last Tuesday, excellent. carpenter, I'm not sure if carpentry is a white or a black thing as he was clearly Asian. Maybe there's something in this colour dominated profession thing, I'll ask raheem sterling. Ah, his maths are shit, I'll leave it. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 08:37 - Jun 11 with 634 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Lewis Hamilton on 21:28 - Jun 10 by BrynCartwright |
I really don't understand why Felix Jack downvoted me on this one? Could someone please explain? Surely being sponsored now by Boss and Mercedes cannot be criticised in any way? They are completely different organisations now with different people in charge/ |
Perhaps Mercedes should change their name as it glorifies their nazi past using slave labour. A bit like the anarchists in Bristol demanding everything in Bristol is renamed. | |
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| Lewis Hamilton on 10:59 - Jun 11 with 599 views | Catullus |
| Lewis Hamilton on 08:37 - Jun 11 by felixstowe_jack |
Perhaps Mercedes should change their name as it glorifies their nazi past using slave labour. A bit like the anarchists in Bristol demanding everything in Bristol is renamed. |
This is the annoying part for me. I read posts that seem intent on attacking the UK for it's past yet it wasn't just the UK.
Is there a country in the world that hasn't got some dark history. To me it's not an individual country that should be ashamed, it's the whole of humankind (I say humankind not to be sexist!) the whole of history is littered with shameful incidents.
The whole world should say sorry to each other and move the hell on.
Most of us have been or still are being oppressed in some way. It's not only black people who use food banks, who are homeless, who live in fear, who wait too long for the police or for NHS treatment or any one of many other problems which includes racism. People who aren't black suffer racism too. I know the different problems are on a different scale, specially racism but shouldn't we be looking to fix all the issues from the largest down to the smallest?
Not that I'm religious but "he who is without sin amongst you, let him cast the first stone at her" if you catch my drift? | |
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