| Alabama 11:52 - May 16 with 11938 views | Drizzy |
Has voted to criminalise abortion at every stage of pregnancy, with no exception for rape and incest. Abortion is now a class A felony, meaning doctors found guilty of performing abortions could be punished with up to 99 years in prison.
In the same week, the US reportedly draws up plans to send 120,000 troops to Iran.
Just when will Christian fundamentalist extremism stop? |  |
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| Alabama on 19:42 - May 16 with 2035 views | hobo |
| Alabama on 16:35 - May 16 by Lohengrin |
A few hours previously that child could well have been in its twenty third week.
You see where this is going. |
It needs to be halved at least |  | | |
| Alabama on 19:47 - May 16 with 2025 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Alabama on 19:42 - May 16 by hobo |
It needs to be halved at least |
No. It doesn’t.
As I said earlier, there is a possible question about bringing it down to c. 20 weeks due to medical advancement, but as no baby has ever been born and survived at less than 22 weeks, halving the limit to 12 weeks is unfounded and spurious. |  | | |
| Alabama on 20:02 - May 16 with 2002 views | Darran |
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| Alabama on 21:11 - May 16 with 1962 views | sherpajacob |
| Alabama on 19:47 - May 16 by londonlisa2001 |
No. It doesn’t.
As I said earlier, there is a possible question about bringing it down to c. 20 weeks due to medical advancement, but as no baby has ever been born and survived at less than 22 weeks, halving the limit to 12 weeks is unfounded and spurious. |
When I attended my boys 12 week scans, I knew i was looking at another human being. I would go as,far to say it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. At 20 weeks the gender was clear.
Prior to that ,I would have said I was very definitely pro choice, my views changed in that instant.
To terminate the right to life of the unborn child at 20 weeks, I'm afraid is not acceptable to me.
Religion doesn't come into it. |  |
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| Alabama on 21:19 - May 16 with 1957 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Alabama on 21:11 - May 16 by sherpajacob |
When I attended my boys 12 week scans, I knew i was looking at another human being. I would go as,far to say it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. At 20 weeks the gender was clear.
Prior to that ,I would have said I was very definitely pro choice, my views changed in that instant.
To terminate the right to life of the unborn child at 20 weeks, I'm afraid is not acceptable to me.
Religion doesn't come into it. |
And that’s wonderful and you’re lucky to experience that.
Others, however, are not so fortunate.
And it’s absolutely fine that it’s not acceptable to you. Don’t do it then. But you have no right to force your view on those who are in a very different position or have a different view.
I don’t think I would have done it if I’d been in that position. But that’s me. I wouldn’t dream of imposing that view on someone else. No one is saying ‘you have to have an abortion’. People are saying ‘it’s the choice of those involved’. | | | |
| Alabama on 23:06 - May 16 with 1904 views | Kilkennyjack |
Only women have the right to decide about their own bodies.
You cannot have 25 middle class white men telling millions of women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
This will soon be reversed.
Feck Trump. |  |
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| Alabama on 23:13 - May 16 with 1891 views | Highjack |
| Alabama on 23:06 - May 16 by Kilkennyjack |
Only women have the right to decide about their own bodies.
You cannot have 25 middle class white men telling millions of women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
This will soon be reversed.
Feck Trump. |
What’s this got to do with Trump? |  |
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| Alabama on 23:15 - May 16 with 1884 views | Banosswan |
| Alabama on 23:13 - May 16 by Highjack |
What’s this got to do with Trump? |
All the right support this mun. |  |
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| Alabama on 23:20 - May 16 with 1876 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Alabama on 23:13 - May 16 by Highjack |
What’s this got to do with Trump? |
He emboldens the alt right arseholes.
He leads the Republicans, so ....
‘All of the bill's 25 "yea" votes were from Republican men, including State Sen. Clyde Chambliss, who ushered the bill through the chamber. The remaining two Republicans, both men, did not vote.’.
Feck Trump 🇺🇸 | |
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| Alabama on 23:20 - May 16 with 1876 views | hobo |
| Alabama on 23:06 - May 16 by Kilkennyjack |
Only women have the right to decide about their own bodies.
You cannot have 25 middle class white men telling millions of women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
This will soon be reversed.
Feck Trump. |
Why bring their race into it? | | | |
| Alabama on 23:27 - May 16 with 1870 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Alabama on 23:20 - May 16 by hobo |
Why bring their race into it? |
Its a fact that suggests that it might represent a narrow viewpoint.
Perhaps even a privileged viewpoint.
Especially as the legislation specifically targets a different part of the population, ie women.
Its not a good look.... | |
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| Alabama on 23:35 - May 16 with 1862 views | Highjack |
| Alabama on 23:27 - May 16 by Kilkennyjack |
Its a fact that suggests that it might represent a narrow viewpoint.
Perhaps even a privileged viewpoint.
Especially as the legislation specifically targets a different part of the population, ie women.
Its not a good look.... |
The doctors who face imprisonment might not necessarily be women | |
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| Alabama on 08:32 - May 17 with 1804 views | theloneranger |
| Alabama on 18:44 - May 16 by Banosswan |
I'm amazed anyone can know many women who have had at least four abortions and then these women told them. I've ever only known of one woman I know who had one. |
Perhaps he works in a large brothel |  |
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| Alabama on 15:17 - May 17 with 1747 views | snork44 |
| Alabama on 17:22 - May 16 by londonlisa2001 |
The whole ethos of the religious right in the States is f*cked up.
The same people that believe in this situation that ALL life is a sacred, precious gift from God (even before it is actually life) also believe that the little brown kids being separated from their parents at the border are sub human and don’t deserve sympathy because they’re INVADING the country. |
I live here and two things I can't my head around and I have been living here for six years are the gun laws and the whole abortion thing. The rest of the developed world have sorted out abortion in the sixties and seventies , even Ireland voted to legalize abortion, but here it is different and the religious right especially in the South has this thing they have go one better than each other, now here in Georgia it was the detection of a heartbeat , but in Alabama it is a full out ban in the practice. The Bible Belt and the rest of the Republican leaning states are returning to the Middle Ages and it just shows how screwed up the religious right is. [Post edited 17 May 2019 15:37]
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| Alabama on 15:19 - May 17 with 1743 views | Jonathans_coat |
| Alabama on 15:17 - May 17 by snork44 |
I live here and two things I can't my head around and I have been living here for six years are the gun laws and the whole abortion thing. The rest of the developed world have sorted out abortion in the sixties and seventies , even Ireland voted to legalize abortion, but here it is different and the religious right especially in the South has this thing they have go one better than each other, now here in Georgia it was the detection of a heartbeat , but in Alabama it is a full out ban in the practice. The Bible Belt and the rest of the Republican leaning states are returning to the Middle Ages and it just shows how screwed up the religious right is. [Post edited 17 May 2019 15:37]
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What they don’t seem to realise, is that their views are increasingly aligned with the beliefs of the Islamist extremists they profess to hate. |  | | |
| Alabama on 16:07 - May 17 with 1721 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Is anyone surprised ?
You can still marry young girls in the USA , it’s a facking basket case of a country.
They’ll be kicking off in the middle east soon as their Syria project has backfired .
John Bolton is a psychological lunatic holding Trumps lead .
Some of them also own our football club |  |
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| Alabama on 16:25 - May 17 with 1704 views | sherpajacob |
| Alabama on 21:19 - May 16 by londonlisa2001 |
And that’s wonderful and you’re lucky to experience that.
Others, however, are not so fortunate.
And it’s absolutely fine that it’s not acceptable to you. Don’t do it then. But you have no right to force your view on those who are in a very different position or have a different view.
I don’t think I would have done it if I’d been in that position. But that’s me. I wouldn’t dream of imposing that view on someone else. No one is saying ‘you have to have an abortion’. People are saying ‘it’s the choice of those involved’. |
I agree its the choice of those involved, however the one most involved is the unborn child. it's their life. somebody must speak on their behalf.
For me its not even a question of whether the baby could survive at 20/24 weeks or earlier. A full term baby can't survive by itself.
I am not against abortion on religious grounds and I'm not against abortion in all circumstances
As I said in my earlier posts, it boils down to when you believe human life begins, if you don't believe its at the point of conception, then it is at some arbitrary point between conception and birth and that arbitrary point can be moved around by politicians. | |
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| Alabama on 18:15 - May 17 with 1675 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Alabama on 16:25 - May 17 by sherpajacob |
I agree its the choice of those involved, however the one most involved is the unborn child. it's their life. somebody must speak on their behalf.
For me its not even a question of whether the baby could survive at 20/24 weeks or earlier. A full term baby can't survive by itself.
I am not against abortion on religious grounds and I'm not against abortion in all circumstances
As I said in my earlier posts, it boils down to when you believe human life begins, if you don't believe its at the point of conception, then it is at some arbitrary point between conception and birth and that arbitrary point can be moved around by politicians. |
Doctors, not politicians. Because they say when it’s actually an unborn child rather than a potential unborn child.
Tell me this. Do you believe that someone on a life support system in a permanent vegetative state can ever be turned off or is it an absolute necessity that they remain hooked up forever? | | | |
| Alabama on 18:19 - May 17 with 1670 views | controversial_jack |
| Alabama on 16:07 - May 17 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Is anyone surprised ?
You can still marry young girls in the USA , it’s a facking basket case of a country.
They’ll be kicking off in the middle east soon as their Syria project has backfired .
John Bolton is a psychological lunatic holding Trumps lead .
Some of them also own our football club |
They are trying it with Venezuela too, but that's not working either. | | | |
| Alabama on 19:02 - May 17 with 1652 views | Jackarmy777 |
Well done Alabama, protecting the unborn, who can’t defend themselves. | | | |
| Alabama on 19:06 - May 17 with 1650 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Alabama on 19:02 - May 17 by Jackarmy777 |
Well done Alabama, protecting the unborn, who can’t defend themselves. |
No. They’re not. They’re endangering the lives of the women who will now have an abortion using dangerous back street abortionists rather than a safe, clean, specialist clinic.
That’s the whole point. | | | |
| Alabama on 19:12 - May 17 with 1646 views | Jackarmy777 |
| Alabama on 19:06 - May 17 by londonlisa2001 |
No. They’re not. They’re endangering the lives of the women who will now have an abortion using dangerous back street abortionists rather than a safe, clean, specialist clinic.
That’s the whole point. |
Excuses, excuses....well done Alabama. | | | |
| Alabama on 20:00 - May 17 with 1633 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Alabama on 18:19 - May 17 by controversial_jack |
They are trying it with Venezuela too, but that's not working either. |
People are waking up to the lunatics | |
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| Alabama on 21:19 - May 17 with 1620 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Alabama on 20:00 - May 17 by oh_tommy_tommy |
People are waking up to the lunatics |
Wish I shared your optimism Tom. There'll be plenty on here, and in society as whole, supporting the lunatics' forthcoming aggression against Iran. Same as it ever was. |  |
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| Alabama on 21:34 - May 17 with 1609 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Alabama on 19:06 - May 17 by londonlisa2001 |
No. They’re not. They’re endangering the lives of the women who will now have an abortion using dangerous back street abortionists rather than a safe, clean, specialist clinic.
That’s the whole point. |
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