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OUT WITH A DEAL EATING OUR CAKE AND LOVING IT suck it up remoaners
And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.
It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.
The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.
Happy Days.
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Remoaner,losers . on 09:55 - Dec 11 by Joe_bradshaw
From the Best For Britain twitter account:
“Chair of Vote Leave, Gisela Stuart, on @SkyNews : “No Deal is not a preferred option for either side, but the solution is now a political one… We probably need to accept that their commitment to how they define the Single Market is even more fundamental than we had appreciated.” ”
Sorry, but only a total brain dead halfwit would have failed to realise that the entire edifice of EU trade policy is built on nothing else than their fundamental commitment to the Single Market.
Nope, their fundamental commitment is to control of the EU nations by whatever means possible, it has always been about a Federal Europe. The originators made it clear that it was the long term aim. The single market was the carrot.
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Remoaner,losers . on 15:10 - Dec 13 with 1853 views
Welsh Irish and Scottish nationalists is considered fine but English nationalism is considered bad. Discuss.
I wonder what it could be ?
A false and dated sense of national superiority might explain that ? Well that and all the awful things done in the name of Empire across a quarter of the world. Some still shocking and shameful war crime episodes.
The Welsh, Scots and Irish all promote a nationalism grounded in the modern democratic values of equality, inclusion, and the integrated progressive European Union.
“Sovereignty" prevents the English from doing a deal with EU. Any agreement by definition involves both sides yielding some sovereignty. Ultimate sovereignty of always having your own way is imperialism. Your empire has gone, England. Time to move on.
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Remoaner,losers . on 23:01 - Dec 13 with 1798 views
Remoaner,losers . on 20:17 - Dec 13 by Kilkennyjack
I wonder what it could be ?
A false and dated sense of national superiority might explain that ? Well that and all the awful things done in the name of Empire across a quarter of the world. Some still shocking and shameful war crime episodes.
The Welsh, Scots and Irish all promote a nationalism grounded in the modern democratic values of equality, inclusion, and the integrated progressive European Union.
“Sovereignty" prevents the English from doing a deal with EU. Any agreement by definition involves both sides yielding some sovereignty. Ultimate sovereignty of always having your own way is imperialism. Your empire has gone, England. Time to move on.
How does democracy embrace the EU. None of the 27 commissioners stand for election they are all appointed. The president of the commission is also appointed. The voters of the EU never get a choice. Hardly democratic.
How does democracy embrace the EU. None of the 27 commissioners stand for election they are all appointed. The president of the commission is also appointed. The voters of the EU never get a choice. Hardly democratic.
There is a lack of transparency in the Commission, but how many of our top Civil Service people are democratically elected?
Remoaner,losers . on 23:14 - Dec 13 by majorraglan
There is a lack of transparency in the Commission, but how many of our top Civil Service people are democratically elected?
Our top civil servants do not make laws only the UK parliament does that. The EU commissioners make policy and the laws and the EU parliament just endorses their policies a bit like the Chinese parliament. The EU parliament refuse to sign off the EU accounts every year and often rejects the EU budgets as well , but the EU just carries on anyway.
Remoaner,losers . on 23:14 - Dec 13 by majorraglan
There is a lack of transparency in the Commission, but how many of our top Civil Service people are democratically elected?
The Commission are the equivalent of our cabinet though. The civil service is not an elected body and the EU will have it's own civil service equivalent.
What kind of election is it when there is only one candidate and even then that candidate was shoe horned in at the last minsute after some back room deal?
Spitzenkandidaten I think they call it, the preferred choice. If a country outside Europe has only one choice we often call it a dictatorship or an autocracy. We have a name for countries like that.
Our top civil servants do not make laws only the UK parliament does that. The EU commissioners make policy and the laws and the EU parliament just endorses their policies a bit like the Chinese parliament. The EU parliament refuse to sign off the EU accounts every year and often rejects the EU budgets as well , but the EU just carries on anyway.
When Ursula von der whatsername was appointed she did make noises about the EU Parliament being given power to initiate legislation, that would be a step in the right direction but far too late and nothings happened so far anyway.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
How does democracy embrace the EU. None of the 27 commissioners stand for election they are all appointed. The president of the commission is also appointed. The voters of the EU never get a choice. Hardly democratic.
Well ... not petfect but, all EU laws handed down by the Commission can “only be approved by democratically elected politicians” in the Parliament, which “also endorses new Commissions, holds the Commission to account and can even force the Commission to resign in a so called ‘motion of censure’”. You stay and press for reform, not run away.
Shall we talk about the UK as well then, and the cost of the unelected House of Lords...? Plus the appointment of the clergy in uk govt, matched only by Iraq.
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Remoaner,losers . on 17:13 - Dec 14 with 1682 views
Remoaner,losers . on 16:56 - Dec 14 by Kilkennyjack
Well ... not petfect but, all EU laws handed down by the Commission can “only be approved by democratically elected politicians” in the Parliament, which “also endorses new Commissions, holds the Commission to account and can even force the Commission to resign in a so called ‘motion of censure’”. You stay and press for reform, not run away.
Shall we talk about the UK as well then, and the cost of the unelected House of Lords...? Plus the appointment of the clergy in uk govt, matched only by Iraq.
I suggest that you read about so called endorsement process by the MEPs. You live in la la land if you think they do anything but rubber stamp what they have been told to rubber stamp. The only ones who put up any arguments are the Eastern Europeans and the British.
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Remoaner,losers . on 18:37 - Dec 14 with 1660 views
Remoaner,losers . on 16:56 - Dec 14 by Kilkennyjack
Well ... not petfect but, all EU laws handed down by the Commission can “only be approved by democratically elected politicians” in the Parliament, which “also endorses new Commissions, holds the Commission to account and can even force the Commission to resign in a so called ‘motion of censure’”. You stay and press for reform, not run away.
Shall we talk about the UK as well then, and the cost of the unelected House of Lords...? Plus the appointment of the clergy in uk govt, matched only by Iraq.
Kilky, how many rubbish, corrupt, negligent, bloated politicians do we need?
Shouldn't we sort out our own backyard before worrying about the EU. It's a pointles argument anyway because we have left.
Besides, the MEP's can only refuse to allow legislation through. Then it goes back to the commission to be rewritten. It's then sent back to MEP's to try again,
Kilky, how many rubbish, corrupt, negligent, bloated politicians do we need?
Shouldn't we sort out our own backyard before worrying about the EU. It's a pointles argument anyway because we have left.
Besides, the MEP's can only refuse to allow legislation through. Then it goes back to the commission to be rewritten. It's then sent back to MEP's to try again,
We need as many politicians as humanly possible. As long as they aren’t English.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Its just the untustworthy Tory Brexit loons who are scum. I hope you can see the difference.
Anybody who admires Blair is clearly a few pennies short of a quid. The Millibands, did you not see Ed on tv Sunday morning balthering on and contradicitng himself. Now then Alistair Campbell, do you admire spin doctors then because you didn't think much of Cummings lies? Why is Campbell any different?
Stewart, Lammy, Lucas, you are really plumbing some depths now....very fine
What about Brexit supporting English politicians like Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell?
It's quite odd that Kilkenny is suddenly saying nice things about Westminster politicians, someone might even think he'd had a nervous breakdown after all those posts calling ENGLISH politicians nasty names. I thought Blair was a war criminal!
It's quite odd that Kilkenny is suddenly saying nice things about Westminster politicians, someone might even think he'd had a nervous breakdown after all those posts calling ENGLISH politicians nasty names. I thought Blair was a war criminal!
The Plaid Cymru leader in Westminster is also English, presumably because they couldn’t find any welsh people that wanted the gig.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
The Plaid Cymru leader in Westminster is also English, presumably because they couldn’t find any welsh people that wanted the gig.
That might explain it, an English person representing Wales in the English (as he sees it) Parliament....maybe calling English politicians names doesn't suit anymore.
Whatever happened to him saying things like Wales for the Welsh!
It's quite odd that Kilkenny is suddenly saying nice things about Westminster politicians, someone might even think he'd had a nervous breakdown after all those posts calling ENGLISH politicians nasty names. I thought Blair was a war criminal!
Not odd at all.
Johnson is a fascist English nationalist. Likewise xenophobes Farage and Mogg.
People like Dominic Grieve and Starmer are decent people.
I hope you can see the difference.
I am fed up of Wales voting Labour and getting Tory governments. Independence offers an alternative to that paradox.
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Remoaner,losers . on 14:54 - Dec 15 with 1500 views