| UEFA Nations league... on 19:34 - Oct 11 with 10581 views | yescomeon |
My understanding from football manager (I assume it will work the same) is that it's a 4-tier league with groups of 3 or 4 (most of tier 3 and all tier 4 have 4 teams). Teams play each other during normal international breaks. Top team of groups in tiers 2, 3 and 4 get promoted, bottom teams in all tiers are relegated. Top teams from tier 1 go into knockout semi-final and final. The winner qualifies for the Euros. Simple enough really and gets rid of most friendlies as there is something to play for with this, just about. Will stop Wales gaming the rankings system though. |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 20:18 - Oct 11 with 10535 views | Flashberryjack |
| UEFA Nations league... on 19:34 - Oct 11 by yescomeon |
My understanding from football manager (I assume it will work the same) is that it's a 4-tier league with groups of 3 or 4 (most of tier 3 and all tier 4 have 4 teams). Teams play each other during normal international breaks. Top team of groups in tiers 2, 3 and 4 get promoted, bottom teams in all tiers are relegated. Top teams from tier 1 go into knockout semi-final and final. The winner qualifies for the Euros. Simple enough really and gets rid of most friendlies as there is something to play for with this, just about. Will stop Wales gaming the rankings system though. |
Aye! simple as f*ck |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 12:00 - Oct 12 with 10370 views | Jack_y_Jwc |
| UEFA Nations league... on 19:34 - Oct 11 by yescomeon |
My understanding from football manager (I assume it will work the same) is that it's a 4-tier league with groups of 3 or 4 (most of tier 3 and all tier 4 have 4 teams). Teams play each other during normal international breaks. Top team of groups in tiers 2, 3 and 4 get promoted, bottom teams in all tiers are relegated. Top teams from tier 1 go into knockout semi-final and final. The winner qualifies for the Euros. Simple enough really and gets rid of most friendlies as there is something to play for with this, just about. Will stop Wales gaming the rankings system though. |
"Top teams from tier 1 go into knockout semi-final and final. The winner qualifies for the Euros." - not quite, the winner just wins the Nations League.
4 teams qualify to the Euros, one from each tier, which means the shitty teams in tier 4 still have a chance of qualification. We're in tier 2 since Monday night - the top 2 from each mini-league qualify to a knock tournament for each tier (unless they've already qualified then it gets passed to the next best team), where the winner qualifies to the Euros. This is the confusing bit. |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 12:29 - Oct 12 with 10342 views | scottishjack |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:00 - Oct 12 by Jack_y_Jwc |
"Top teams from tier 1 go into knockout semi-final and final. The winner qualifies for the Euros." - not quite, the winner just wins the Nations League.
4 teams qualify to the Euros, one from each tier, which means the shitty teams in tier 4 still have a chance of qualification. We're in tier 2 since Monday night - the top 2 from each mini-league qualify to a knock tournament for each tier (unless they've already qualified then it gets passed to the next best team), where the winner qualifies to the Euros. This is the confusing bit. |
So because of being poor for the past few years, Scotland (Tier 3) will have a better chance of qualifying through this route than Wales or Northern Ireland (Tier 2)?
So let's say that there's a good chance the Tier 1 and 2 teams will have a good chance of qualifying by right, that's still a couple of places at the next finals (Which is also a confusing mess) going to teams that otherwise probably wouldn't qualify.
I just don't see the point of it all to be honest. |  | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:38 - Oct 12 with 10331 views | Jack_y_Jwc |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:29 - Oct 12 by scottishjack |
So because of being poor for the past few years, Scotland (Tier 3) will have a better chance of qualifying through this route than Wales or Northern Ireland (Tier 2)?
So let's say that there's a good chance the Tier 1 and 2 teams will have a good chance of qualifying by right, that's still a couple of places at the next finals (Which is also a confusing mess) going to teams that otherwise probably wouldn't qualify.
I just don't see the point of it all to be honest. |
This is my understanding anyway based on the following quote: "There will be an extra chance to qualify for Euro 2020 through the Nations League. The highest placed team in each group that has not qualified for the finals will enter four-team playoff from each of the four leagues in March 2020, and the winners will go to the finals -- effectively replacing the playoffs between third-placed teams in qualifying for Euro 2016."
It's essentially an attempt to make friendlies more competitive but it depends how seriously the nations take it I suppose. | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 12:56 - Oct 12 with 10309 views | Taliesin |
The way I understand it is the 4 teams that will qualify for Euros are the highest placed countries that have not qualified through the normal route.
Taking qualification out of the equation this is simply a competition designed to eradicate friendlies and replacing them with competitive games which must be a good thing |  | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 13:01 - Oct 12 with 10305 views | Dewi1jack |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:29 - Oct 12 by scottishjack |
So because of being poor for the past few years, Scotland (Tier 3) will have a better chance of qualifying through this route than Wales or Northern Ireland (Tier 2)?
So let's say that there's a good chance the Tier 1 and 2 teams will have a good chance of qualifying by right, that's still a couple of places at the next finals (Which is also a confusing mess) going to teams that otherwise probably wouldn't qualify.
I just don't see the point of it all to be honest. |
The point of it is very simple.
The more International matches that are played = the more money UEFA receive
Hope that clarifies it  |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 15:48 - Oct 12 with 10220 views | Jack_Kass |
So why don't Wales just take a few years out, slip to League Z, smash San Marino and Andorra and waltz their way to the World Cup | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 15:51 - Oct 12 with 10210 views | JackFish |
| UEFA Nations league... on 15:48 - Oct 12 by Jack_Kass |
So why don't Wales just take a few years out, slip to League Z, smash San Marino and Andorra and waltz their way to the World Cup |
Agree it’s stupid, I like the concept (much better than friendlies) but don’t see the need for using it for Euro qualifiers, especially if the bottom league get an automatic place. Should be 4 leagues of 4 teams per group too. |  | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 15:54 - Oct 12 with 10199 views | Jack_Kass |
| UEFA Nations league... on 15:51 - Oct 12 by JackFish |
Agree it’s stupid, I like the concept (much better than friendlies) but don’t see the need for using it for Euro qualifiers, especially if the bottom league get an automatic place. Should be 4 leagues of 4 teams per group too. |
The concept is fine, but it should be the top 16 or whatever qualify automatically for every tournament.
This gives every country a reason to beat teams around and them get promotion up to the top league.
E-I-E-O up the Nations League we go | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 16:11 - Oct 12 with 10183 views | Taliesin |
| UEFA Nations league... on 15:51 - Oct 12 by JackFish |
Agree it’s stupid, I like the concept (much better than friendlies) but don’t see the need for using it for Euro qualifiers, especially if the bottom league get an automatic place. Should be 4 leagues of 4 teams per group too. |
The top place in each group will not qualify. The top 4 placed teams that do not qualify through the usual process will, starting from the top group and working down. Nobody from the 4rth tier is going to qualify through this route - it's more a safety nets for the elite who screw up the qualifing group | | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 09:33 - Oct 13 with 9997 views | Dewi1jack |
| UEFA Nations league... on 00:09 - Oct 13 by Taliesin |
That'll teach me for listening to Talksport
That is a bit shite! |
Really?
Talksh1te?
You'll be believing what Wales On Line come out with soon as well | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 09:59 - Oct 13 with 9979 views | trampie |
Looks like the football authorities are trying to make friendlies more interesting and relevant or you could even say they are trying to do away with them. |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 10:12 - Oct 13 with 9978 views | DafyddHuw |
| UEFA Nations league... on 00:09 - Oct 13 by Taliesin |
That'll teach me for listening to Talksport
That is a bit shite! |
Is it from TalkSport that you got the idea that MacBurnie should start tomorrow? |  | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 11:02 - Oct 13 with 9958 views | yescomeon |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:00 - Oct 12 by Jack_y_Jwc |
"Top teams from tier 1 go into knockout semi-final and final. The winner qualifies for the Euros." - not quite, the winner just wins the Nations League.
4 teams qualify to the Euros, one from each tier, which means the shitty teams in tier 4 still have a chance of qualification. We're in tier 2 since Monday night - the top 2 from each mini-league qualify to a knock tournament for each tier (unless they've already qualified then it gets passed to the next best team), where the winner qualifies to the Euros. This is the confusing bit. |
Yeah you're right what I said is only true in FM, or the last one I played. Not sure I like 4 teams qualifying for the Euros out of this competition as it makes getting to the Euros the traditional way harder at the expense of letting the likes of Gibraltar, Luxembourg and San Marino qualify. Just look at the tier Wales are in all the teams in that are at the level of finishing around 1st or 2nd in the recent world cup qualifying. Getting through that to get a place in the Euros will make world cup qualification look easy.
I get why they did it the way they have though, otherwise the teams down in tiers 4 through 2 don't have much to play for. | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 11:27 - Oct 13 with 9932 views | trampie |
I haven't looked at the small print but all in all it looks like a good thing. | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 13:28 - Oct 13 with 9904 views | Taliesin |
| UEFA Nations league... on 09:33 - Oct 13 by Dewi1jack |
Really?
Talksh1te?
You'll be believing what Wales On Line come out with soon as well |
Fair point, well made  | | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 13:30 - Oct 13 with 9901 views | Taliesin |
| UEFA Nations league... on 10:12 - Oct 13 by DafyddHuw |
Is it from TalkSport that you got the idea that MacBurnie should start tomorrow? |
No - that came from having a mind of my own! | | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:07 - Jan 24 with 8190 views | Jack_y_Jwc |
Bit of a shit draw really. Two of the most expensive cities to visit although I'll probably still go to Copenhagen not sure I can be arsed with Dublin though | |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 14:54 - Jan 24 with 7969 views | Fireboy2 |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:07 - Jan 24 by Jack_y_Jwc |
Bit of a shit draw really. Two of the most expensive cities to visit although I'll probably still go to Copenhagen not sure I can be arsed with Dublin though |
This |  | | |
| UEFA Nations league... on 18:07 - Jan 24 with 7866 views | Neath_Jack |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:07 - Jan 24 by Jack_y_Jwc |
Bit of a shit draw really. Two of the most expensive cities to visit although I'll probably still go to Copenhagen not sure I can be arsed with Dublin though |
We had a fantastic time out in Copenhagen whilst on our Europa adventure.
Bit of a shit competition though isn't it? Only the top group gets to play in a final and entry into the actual European Championship. |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 18:45 - Jan 24 with 7831 views | builthjack |
| UEFA Nations league... on 12:07 - Jan 24 by Jack_y_Jwc |
Bit of a shit draw really. Two of the most expensive cities to visit although I'll probably still go to Copenhagen not sure I can be arsed with Dublin though |
There are ways to do things cheap. You have to work at it. Dont do the norm and you will get around it. |  |
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| UEFA Nations league... on 20:12 - Jan 24 with 7788 views | Jack_y_Jwc |
| UEFA Nations league... on 18:07 - Jan 24 by Neath_Jack |
We had a fantastic time out in Copenhagen whilst on our Europa adventure.
Bit of a shit competition though isn't it? Only the top group gets to play in a final and entry into the actual European Championship. |
No, one team from each pool qualifies to euro 2020, so Azerbaijan are likely to qualify.
If taken seriously then there are benefits to this tournament and some good away trips | |
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