| Tax needn't be taxing... 22:57 - Mar 5 with 8735 views | blueytheblue |
... I believe the phrase was.
Corbyn wants to try to point score by releasing his tax returns.
Last year, filed late I do believe so he was fined.
This year he declares 117k of income. 35k or so of that was pension and benefits.
The story however is that his return seems to have omitted 40k as Labour leader from his return. So was it a mistake ( can't get tax returns sorted correctly on a regular basis ), was it that he declined the pay ( do Labour do performance related pay? ) or is he a stinking tax dodger.
Only Jezza can make an attempted point about others taxes and make such a pigs ear of it that the story is now about him. |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:03 - Mar 6 with 1226 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 19:53 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
So to clarify then, there is absolutely nothing wrong with his tax return. |
Well, the question as to why salary was assigned as "state benefits" is the only remaining question.
Still, people like you seem to see it as "fiddled", "didn't fiddle".
Real issue is that the tax return was confusing at best and it took a day to drag the reality of it from Corbyn's team.
Plus he's a f*cking idiot if you look at the pictures of the return. He's not blanked out NI number nor UTR... | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:07 - Mar 6 with 1218 views | nice_to_michu |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:03 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
Well, the question as to why salary was assigned as "state benefits" is the only remaining question.
Still, people like you seem to see it as "fiddled", "didn't fiddle".
Real issue is that the tax return was confusing at best and it took a day to drag the reality of it from Corbyn's team.
Plus he's a f*cking idiot if you look at the pictures of the return. He's not blanked out NI number nor UTR... |
Meh, I don't like corbyn but I don't see the big deal about this.
A more interesting question is why Philip Hammond won't release his tax returns. What are your thoughts? [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 20:08]
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:08 - Mar 6 with 1216 views | NeathJack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:03 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
Well, the question as to why salary was assigned as "state benefits" is the only remaining question.
Still, people like you seem to see it as "fiddled", "didn't fiddle".
Real issue is that the tax return was confusing at best and it took a day to drag the reality of it from Corbyn's team.
Plus he's a f*cking idiot if you look at the pictures of the return. He's not blanked out NI number nor UTR... |
In a further statement issued on Monday, Labour said Mr Corbyn had declared all his income and paid the "appropriate amount" of tax.
"The payment he received in 2015-16 as Leader of the Opposition appears on the return as a 'benefit' rather than as pay because that is how it is categorised by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs," it said.
The real issue is the media were far too keen on thinking they had something new to attack him with instead of actually doing a little bit of research first which would have shown that it was completely accurate.
But then you know that. |  | | |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:17 - Mar 6 with 1203 views | waynekerr55 |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 19:16 - Mar 6 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Boris Johnston is doing a fine job at that fair play |
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That was a tap in and you took it |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:25 - Mar 6 with 1190 views | sherpajacob |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:07 - Mar 6 by nice_to_michu |
Meh, I don't like corbyn but I don't see the big deal about this.
A more interesting question is why Philip Hammond won't release his tax returns. What are your thoughts? [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 20:08]
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You'll be waiting a while, bluey only comments on labour politicians. |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:37 - Mar 6 with 1174 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:07 - Mar 6 by nice_to_michu |
Meh, I don't like corbyn but I don't see the big deal about this.
A more interesting question is why Philip Hammond won't release his tax returns. What are your thoughts? [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 20:08]
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I refer the honourable member to the post I gave some time ago.
Which is simply there's zero reason to. | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:40 - Mar 6 with 1168 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:08 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
In a further statement issued on Monday, Labour said Mr Corbyn had declared all his income and paid the "appropriate amount" of tax.
"The payment he received in 2015-16 as Leader of the Opposition appears on the return as a 'benefit' rather than as pay because that is how it is categorised by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs," it said.
The real issue is the media were far too keen on thinking they had something new to attack him with instead of actually doing a little bit of research first which would have shown that it was completely accurate.
But then you know that. |
Do HMRC categorise it as that? Government refer to it as salary. Not discounting HMRC having alternate views.
Ah the old "they didn't research it" - well, maybe if Corbyn had stated all that at the time things would have been clarified quickly, eh? I mean, his press officers have been drip feeding answers all day when they didn't seem to know last night.
Anyone know which accountants he used? | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:42 - Mar 6 with 1165 views | blueytheblue |
To be honest, surprised none of you feckers noticed the typo in the thread title. | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:44 - Mar 6 with 1159 views | NeathJack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:40 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
Do HMRC categorise it as that? Government refer to it as salary. Not discounting HMRC having alternate views.
Ah the old "they didn't research it" - well, maybe if Corbyn had stated all that at the time things would have been clarified quickly, eh? I mean, his press officers have been drip feeding answers all day when they didn't seem to know last night.
Anyone know which accountants he used? |
If the media had actually researched it properly rather than running the story without doing so they would not have needed it clarified.
Nor would they have run the story.
But then the smear job is done now isn't it.
I wonder what Hammond is hiding? | | | |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:53 - Mar 6 with 1154 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:44 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
If the media had actually researched it properly rather than running the story without doing so they would not have needed it clarified.
Nor would they have run the story.
But then the smear job is done now isn't it.
I wonder what Hammond is hiding? |
Around 600,000 😠|  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:07 - Mar 6 with 1149 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:40 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
Do HMRC categorise it as that? Government refer to it as salary. Not discounting HMRC having alternate views.
Ah the old "they didn't research it" - well, maybe if Corbyn had stated all that at the time things would have been clarified quickly, eh? I mean, his press officers have been drip feeding answers all day when they didn't seem to know last night.
Anyone know which accountants he used? |
HMRC is government. |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:11 - Mar 6 with 1146 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:44 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
If the media had actually researched it properly rather than running the story without doing so they would not have needed it clarified.
Nor would they have run the story.
But then the smear job is done now isn't it.
I wonder what Hammond is hiding? |
You say "research it properly" - how so? Salary reclassified as benefits isn't exactly intuitive.
Corbyn's press officers didn't know the reason either. Took a long time for explanations to be given.
If Corbyn had posted, "Here's my tax return - LOTO salary was classed as benefits not salary, pension contribution taken off it, waived the increase" then the return is out there along with explanation for anything that wasn't obvious. Hardly difficult. | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:18 - Mar 6 with 1142 views | NeathJack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:11 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
You say "research it properly" - how so? Salary reclassified as benefits isn't exactly intuitive.
Corbyn's press officers didn't know the reason either. Took a long time for explanations to be given.
If Corbyn had posted, "Here's my tax return - LOTO salary was classed as benefits not salary, pension contribution taken off it, waived the increase" then the return is out there along with explanation for anything that wasn't obvious. Hardly difficult. |
I would imagine a quick call to an account would have done the trick, instead they preferred to run with the story in order to smear as quickly as possible.
I wonder what Hammond is hiding? | | | |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:24 - Mar 6 with 1136 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:18 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
I would imagine a quick call to an account would have done the trick, instead they preferred to run with the story in order to smear as quickly as possible.
I wonder what Hammond is hiding? |
How would another accountant "have done the trick"?
Corbyn could have killed the story immediately by giving the return context.
I wonder how Lady Nugee's return will look. | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:39 - Mar 6 with 1126 views | NeathJack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:24 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
How would another accountant "have done the trick"?
Corbyn could have killed the story immediately by giving the return context.
I wonder how Lady Nugee's return will look. |
Would Corbyn have known exactly why certain items were placed in certain places in accounts done by his accountant?
Make all the excuses you like here, the bottom line is the media ran with an inaccurate story as they were more concerned with the chance of smearing Corbyn, than taking time out to check the facts.
In my humble opinion, it should be mandatory for the Chancellor of the Exchequer to publish his full tax returns, given his role. Obviously at this stage it isn't and I'm sure every Tory MP would fight tooth and nail to keep it that way. | | | |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:57 - Mar 6 with 1116 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:39 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
Would Corbyn have known exactly why certain items were placed in certain places in accounts done by his accountant?
Make all the excuses you like here, the bottom line is the media ran with an inaccurate story as they were more concerned with the chance of smearing Corbyn, than taking time out to check the facts.
In my humble opinion, it should be mandatory for the Chancellor of the Exchequer to publish his full tax returns, given his role. Obviously at this stage it isn't and I'm sure every Tory MP would fight tooth and nail to keep it that way. |
When a tax return is submitted, anything wrong you are gone after not the accountants. You are fully responsible for it.
Would he have known exactly why it was not under salary? Probably not, suspect he has enough problems knowing what day it is. If you blindly sign off on a return without examining the detail and questioning things you don't understand, then that's an incredibly silly risk to take.
Corbyn published tax return. Questionable things were noted. His own press officers had no explanation. Over the course of the day, things were explained. It would be remiss of people not to question apparent oddities - but they could and should have been explained at the time of publishing the return.
I'm generally not in favour of publishing returns. Chancellor, that's an idea that's starting to warm on me. A bit. I think you'd find though Labour MPs would also fight to keep things the way they are now. Can't see many in the shadow cabinet wanting to follow Corbyn's lead on it. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 21:58]
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:59 - Mar 6 with 1109 views | longlostjack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:39 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
Would Corbyn have known exactly why certain items were placed in certain places in accounts done by his accountant?
Make all the excuses you like here, the bottom line is the media ran with an inaccurate story as they were more concerned with the chance of smearing Corbyn, than taking time out to check the facts.
In my humble opinion, it should be mandatory for the Chancellor of the Exchequer to publish his full tax returns, given his role. Obviously at this stage it isn't and I'm sure every Tory MP would fight tooth and nail to keep it that way. |
Definitely! Surely it should be mandatory for all elected politicians let alone the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The Mother of Democracy shouldn't be resting on it's laurels and for many reasons needs a bloody good kick up the arse ! |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 23:58 - Mar 6 with 1074 views | NeathJack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:57 - Mar 6 by blueytheblue |
When a tax return is submitted, anything wrong you are gone after not the accountants. You are fully responsible for it.
Would he have known exactly why it was not under salary? Probably not, suspect he has enough problems knowing what day it is. If you blindly sign off on a return without examining the detail and questioning things you don't understand, then that's an incredibly silly risk to take.
Corbyn published tax return. Questionable things were noted. His own press officers had no explanation. Over the course of the day, things were explained. It would be remiss of people not to question apparent oddities - but they could and should have been explained at the time of publishing the return.
I'm generally not in favour of publishing returns. Chancellor, that's an idea that's starting to warm on me. A bit. I think you'd find though Labour MPs would also fight to keep things the way they are now. Can't see many in the shadow cabinet wanting to follow Corbyn's lead on it. [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 21:58]
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The fact remains that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.
The media has a duty to report the truth (at least they should), not smear with inaccuracies and then use the failure of Corbyn to correct their own inaccuracies quickly enough for them as another reason to smear him.
Criticise his policies if you disagree with them by all means and put forward an alternative but this sort of nonsense is utterly pathetic. | | | |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 09:40 - Mar 7 with 1044 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 23:58 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
The fact remains that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.
The media has a duty to report the truth (at least they should), not smear with inaccuracies and then use the failure of Corbyn to correct their own inaccuracies quickly enough for them as another reason to smear him.
Criticise his policies if you disagree with them by all means and put forward an alternative but this sort of nonsense is utterly pathetic. |
Trump has a point
Fake news | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 11:58 - Mar 7 with 1025 views | Private_Partz |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 21:18 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
I would imagine a quick call to an account would have done the trick, instead they preferred to run with the story in order to smear as quickly as possible.
I wonder what Hammond is hiding? |
This is happening all the time NJ. The media try to discredit him at every opportunity. When he does make speeches it gets virtually ignored.
The obsession is divisions in the Labour Party. A man trying to get a fairer society is not so news worthy.
We have a similar situation in Wales with out Welsh media favouring Welsh Labour rather than the Tories in England.
This was highlighted here when Leanne Wood had the temeirity to raise the issue that Cardiff was getting investment to the detriment of Wales. It got vituually zilch coverage. |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:28 - Mar 7 with 1015 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 23:58 - Mar 6 by NeathJack |
The fact remains that there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.
The media has a duty to report the truth (at least they should), not smear with inaccuracies and then use the failure of Corbyn to correct their own inaccuracies quickly enough for them as another reason to smear him.
Criticise his policies if you disagree with them by all means and put forward an alternative but this sort of nonsense is utterly pathetic. |
Media asked Corbyn's representatives about seeming inaccuracies in the return.
Corbyn's representatives took a day to come up with answers.
Again, LOTO money as "benefit" is somewhat odd to most people's viewing. Would be interesting to see how previous Labour leaders had classified it. | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:46 - Mar 7 with 1003 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:28 - Mar 7 by blueytheblue |
Media asked Corbyn's representatives about seeming inaccuracies in the return.
Corbyn's representatives took a day to come up with answers.
Again, LOTO money as "benefit" is somewhat odd to most people's viewing. Would be interesting to see how previous Labour leaders had classified it. |
Your having a hissy fit over this Bluey, even the press have piped down , let it go son | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:48 - Mar 7 with 1000 views | Highjack |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 20:07 - Mar 6 by nice_to_michu |
Meh, I don't like corbyn but I don't see the big deal about this.
A more interesting question is why Philip Hammond won't release his tax returns. What are your thoughts? [Post edited 6 Mar 2017 20:08]
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No the far more interesting and important question is why are they all wasting their time squabbling over some non issue when there's a country to govern and an opposition party to organise?
This sort of virtue politics is a complete and utter waste of time and someone needs to grab corbyn by the scruff of the neck and drum into him the fact he's the leader of the opposition and needs to be holding the government to account. Literally nobody gives a flying shyte about his tax returns. |  |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:57 - Mar 7 with 997 views | blueytheblue |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:46 - Mar 7 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Your having a hissy fit over this Bluey, even the press have piped down , let it go son |
Au contraire, Thomas old bean. | |
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| Tax needn't be taxing... on 13:08 - Mar 7 with 994 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Tax needn't be taxing... on 12:48 - Mar 7 by Highjack |
No the far more interesting and important question is why are they all wasting their time squabbling over some non issue when there's a country to govern and an opposition party to organise?
This sort of virtue politics is a complete and utter waste of time and someone needs to grab corbyn by the scruff of the neck and drum into him the fact he's the leader of the opposition and needs to be holding the government to account. Literally nobody gives a flying shyte about his tax returns. |
His party needs to get behind him first , bunch of c@nts that they are | |
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