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Obesity 11:25 - Dec 11 with 14243 viewsexiled_dictator

a very sensitive subject, not something to be laughed at, but definitely something to be addressed on a national scale.
and as someone who was probably obese and has worked very hard to reduce the medical effects of obesity, i can understand the worldly temptations and peer pressure that is out there.

H O W E V E R . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

i have an issue with dame sally davies, england's chief medical officer.
in her opinion, obesity is as big a threat as terrorism.
really?
wtf is this woman smoking, and does she get it on nhs prescription?

i am really struggling to envision a situation where an overweight female gets onto a crowded train and explodes killing tens of innocent passengers a la mr creosote. or walks down the road so recklessly that she manages to run over and kill several pedestrians.

i do understand that obesity is very real and can really affect a person and their family, but comparing it to a terrorist attack on the streets of london is just a joke. p45 time, me thinks.

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Obesity on 15:17 - Dec 11 with 2445 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Obesity on 14:30 - Dec 11 by essextaxiboy

What on earth is wrong with Chav ?

The fact that you typed it but felt that you had to break up the other two shows that .

This word police stuff really does water down real genuine nasty prejudice .

What word would you have us use Baz ?


I only broke the words up because LFW made me mate.

For people who act anti socially, dick head covers all basis. That way politicians, celebrities, or investment bankers are included without bringing class into it.

I know you probably think I'm a whingy pedant, but it's just isn't nice. If you want to attack someone for damaging society look a bit higher up the food chain.
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Obesity on 15:29 - Dec 11 with 2415 viewsPommyhoop

Obesity on 15:13 - Dec 11 by Konk

I don’t like “chav” because it seems to mostly be used to sneer at working class people who dress a certain way, shop at Greggs/Iceland and live on estates, regardless of whether they’re good, decent people or “scum”. It presumably makes people feel superior when they can point at someone kitted out at Sports Direct on a low income/benefits, and dismiss them as a “chav” without knowing a thing about them. Each to their own, but I think it's a horrible word.


I'm working class and to me a Chav is a young yoot neer do well ( hoody if you like )
If I called people who lived on estates Chavs it would be a bit close to home..
I might be wrong though about the words meaning.
I haven't been back in a while..
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Obesity on 15:35 - Dec 11 with 2403 viewsKonk

Obesity on 15:29 - Dec 11 by Pommyhoop

I'm working class and to me a Chav is a young yoot neer do well ( hoody if you like )
If I called people who lived on estates Chavs it would be a bit close to home..
I might be wrong though about the words meaning.
I haven't been back in a while..
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That’s the general idea, mate, but in my experience, I hear it used all the time — generally by people from very comfortable backgrounds — to laugh at people who fit in with the stereotype of not badly behaved youth, but a class of white people who typically live on estates, wear a lot of leisure wear, don’t have the best diets, have kids young etc. And that’s regardless of whether they’re grafters, good as gold or anything else; it’s simply their wardrobe, diet and where they live that enables others to sneer at them.

I also hate "White trash" as a term, so maybe I'm just too sensitive.

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Obesity on 15:50 - Dec 11 with 2381 viewsexiled_dictator

would vicky pollard be classified as a chav?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/littlebritain/characters/vicky.shtml
Vicky Pollard is your common-or-garden teenage delinquent, the sort you can see hanging around any number of off licences in Britain, trying to persuade people going inside to buy them 10 fags and a bottle of White Lightening.

what about harry enfield's loadsamoney?
or is he a son of thatcher?

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Obesity on 16:25 - Dec 11 with 2333 viewsNorthernr

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Obesity on 16:26 - Dec 11 with 2330 viewsKonk

on 01:00 - Jan 1 by



That’s not my experience. I find it’s people from middle-class backgrounds and up who tend to use the word chav — and they use it to describe anyone who looks white and working class regardless of what how they’re behaving or what they’re like. It’s an acceptable term you can use when you want to sneer at the white, working class.

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Obesity on 16:26 - Dec 11 with 2325 viewsessextaxiboy

Obesity on 15:17 - Dec 11 by BazzaInTheLoft

I only broke the words up because LFW made me mate.

For people who act anti socially, dick head covers all basis. That way politicians, celebrities, or investment bankers are included without bringing class into it.

I know you probably think I'm a whingy pedant, but it's just isn't nice. If you want to attack someone for damaging society look a bit higher up the food chain.


I dont think you are a whingy peasant , I really enjoy your posts .

I just think you tend to sweat the small stuff a bit .. no offence .

Point taken on the word splitting
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Obesity on 16:29 - Dec 11 with 2319 viewshoof_hearted

Obesity on 16:25 - Dec 11 by Northernr



You knocking one out and hit the wrong key?
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Obesity on 16:41 - Dec 11 with 2005 viewsPommyhoop

Obesity on 16:29 - Dec 11 by hoof_hearted

You knocking one out and hit the wrong key?


Pardon ?
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I dont even like rugby that much.

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Obesity on 16:55 - Dec 11 with 1991 viewslondonscottish

Obesity on 13:28 - Dec 11 by TacticalR



I went to the doctor to get my hearing looked at. While I was there he told me I was obese an did some tests and then told me I shouldn't drink any more.

Which was fine as I usually limit myself to six pints a night and that's probably enough.

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Obesity on 17:02 - Dec 11 with 1977 viewssimmo

Fat or obese kids are a pet hate of mine - if you've got a massively obese kid you should be done for abuse. There is zero excuse for a kid to be oveweight.

ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead

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Obesity on 17:06 - Dec 11 with 1967 viewspaesanu

Download the myfitnesspal app if you're a fatty. Stick to it, you'll see the pounds shed off.

That is a stonewall GAURANTEE.

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Obesity on 17:19 - Dec 11 with 1945 viewsexiled_dictator

ok, so reading some of the comments, here's a couple of questions for you:
(ignoring naturally medical issues or thyroids)

seriously obese children under the age of 18, should the parents be prosecuted?
should the parents of seriously obese have to pay for additional nhs treatment or medication?
should such a thing as summer fat camp be mandatory for kids who are in danger?
and given the time of year, how long does a 150kg child take to cook? with or without potatoes?

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Obesity on 18:25 - Dec 11 with 1910 viewsEastR

Obesity on 16:25 - Dec 11 by Northernr



Clive was your post meant for the 'women you do but shouldn't thread'? Feeder fetish?

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Obesity on 18:55 - Dec 11 with 1888 viewsrunningman75

My brother is sedentary and was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I went for a blood test and was told my cholesterol level was dangerously high ( family history). Took up running , not massive distances but try to do 5K , 3 times a week and sometimes run further. I now do Parkrun every Saturday which means a good change of routine as at 9.00 a.m so not in the pub every Friday and cut down on junk food. Was a real wake up call. Would say to people around 35 years old or older to request a cholesterol and fasting blood test if you have had not had one.
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Obesity on 19:05 - Dec 11 with 1882 viewsBklynRanger

Obesity on 13:12 - Dec 11 by hoof_hearted

From the Independent reporting a study by the National Centre for Health Statistics at the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention in Maryland, US:-

Mild obesity (those with a BMI between 30 and 34.9) brings a 5 per cent lower premature death rate, according to the study. Although this was not statistically significant, it suggests there is no increased risk of premature death attached to that weight range.

So enjoy your short lives you skinny, patronising, soon to die b@stards


There's a certain amount of justifiable outcry against that BMI these days, and 5% obese would probably be quite a few of us. As far as I know you can be a normal person with a bit of a gut and be considered obese. (Am I defending myself too much here? Possibly...)

The obesity stuff seems to be a combination of individual choices, community resources (what's around in terms of fast food vs healthy food) and community culture (what peers are eating and fitting in with the norm).
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Obesity on 19:14 - Dec 11 with 1867 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Obesity on 14:30 - Dec 11 by TheBlob

Who died and made you king?
Anything else you'd like to object to Your Highness?


Pipe down Blob .

Just airing an opinion. I don't like the word. You don't have to heed it if you don't want to.
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Obesity on 19:20 - Dec 11 with 3724 views1BobbyHazell

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Absolutely, right wing middle class people would never use such a word or ever dream about being derogatory about the working class. It is only left wing people.


What planet do you live on brother?!
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Obesity on 19:21 - Dec 11 with 3722 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Obesity on 15:00 - Dec 11 by TacticalR

@BazzaInTheLoft 'That word chav again. I hate it.'

You will love Owen Jones' Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class.


Yeah read it mate.
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Obesity on 19:23 - Dec 11 with 3721 views1BobbyHazell

Obesity on 11:52 - Dec 11 by BazzaInTheLoft

More people, by a massive margin, have died and will die from obesity than terrorism so I agree with her totally.

EDIT

Sorry just realised everyone else has already said this,
[Post edited 11 Dec 2015 11:54]


Agreed, if ISIS had any brains they'd just become lobbyists for the sugar industry.
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Obesity on 21:28 - Dec 11 with 3665 viewsDWQPR

Obesity on 19:23 - Dec 11 by 1BobbyHazell

Agreed, if ISIS had any brains they'd just become lobbyists for the sugar industry.


Very good BH!

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Obesity on 22:09 - Dec 11 with 3647 viewsFredManRave

Obesity on 15:17 - Dec 11 by BazzaInTheLoft

I only broke the words up because LFW made me mate.

For people who act anti socially, dick head covers all basis. That way politicians, celebrities, or investment bankers are included without bringing class into it.

I know you probably think I'm a whingy pedant, but it's just isn't nice. If you want to attack someone for damaging society look a bit higher up the food chain.


Agreed. Bloody sn obs ruining it for the rest of us.

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Obesity on 23:41 - Dec 11 with 3615 viewsisawqpratwcity

Obesity on 17:06 - Dec 11 by paesanu

Download the myfitnesspal app if you're a fatty. Stick to it, you'll see the pounds shed off.

That is a stonewall GAURANTEE.




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Obesity on 02:13 - Dec 12 with 3579 viewsPunteR

Tobobly sums it up best -Obesity will kill more people and cost more money than terrorism. Probably what she means.

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Obesity on 05:40 - Dec 12 with 3554 viewsWesty75

Obesity on 15:35 - Dec 11 by Konk

That’s the general idea, mate, but in my experience, I hear it used all the time — generally by people from very comfortable backgrounds — to laugh at people who fit in with the stereotype of not badly behaved youth, but a class of white people who typically live on estates, wear a lot of leisure wear, don’t have the best diets, have kids young etc. And that’s regardless of whether they’re grafters, good as gold or anything else; it’s simply their wardrobe, diet and where they live that enables others to sneer at them.

I also hate "White trash" as a term, so maybe I'm just too sensitive.


Spot on mate.
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