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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . 22:08 - Sep 30 with 5267 viewsGloryHunter

. . . to press the nuclear red button?

Thatcher. And Blair. Both clearly bonkers.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:21 - Oct 1 with 1664 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:01 - Oct 1 by johncharles

Except .............he didn't say it. I know 'cos I listened to the interview.
He may have said when he was younger before he was leader of the party but hey, that was then. Cameron doesn't STILL put his tackle in a dead pig's mouth.


Why let facts get in the way?

I also watched the interview. All he said was armed conflict would always be the last resort. Yeah he wants rid of trident, but we have a party system here so might not get what he wants.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:43 - Oct 1 with 1650 viewsNorthernr

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 09:43 - Oct 1 with 1628 viewsrobith

Of course the funny thing is, if there is a nuclear war, we won't be alive to find out if the PM pulled the trigger or not
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 10:04 - Oct 1 with 1601 viewsDorse

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 09:43 - Oct 1 by robith

Of course the funny thing is, if there is a nuclear war, we won't be alive to find out if the PM pulled the trigger or not


Surviving a nuclear war is easy. Simply make a suit out of cockroaches and, hey presto. Front row seat for the apocalypse.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 10:13 - Oct 1 with 1594 viewsjohncharles

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:43 - Oct 1 by Northernr



Palmerston would of course. You couldn't keep him away from it.

Strong and stable my arse.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 10:17 - Oct 1 with 1585 viewsTheBlob

"Whatever happens we have got
The Atom Bomb
And they have not."

Rudyard Kipling Cakes.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 10:46 - Oct 1 with 1568 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 10:17 - Oct 1 by TheBlob

"Whatever happens we have got
The Atom Bomb
And they have not."

Rudyard Kipling Cakes.


Not quite the Cuban missile crisis but still...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:02 - Oct 1 with 1555 viewsQPRMUSO

Corbin is an idiot the way he is splitting his party, I doubt he will be the leader of Labour this time next year. The press are starting to eat him alive as they are fed up with him saying they don't understand the new politics and all that nonsense. Don't forget, socialism is the start of communism and we know all about that. What he said yesterday about the nuclear button was pure lunacy, he will never be PM because of it.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:15 - Oct 1 with 1546 viewszicoshoops

Rewind back to the 60's.
The American Envoy trotted along Whitehall, turned into Downing st, secured his Horse and went inside.

'Mr Prime Minister, I have been ordered by our President to order you to join us in a War against the major threat to our system.
Won't take but a few months.......give our boys a chance to test out our new weapon systems.......hell, we might lose a handfull of our guys, but we'll take out a few hundred thousand of them.
Darned if the World's gonna miss a few Yellow men........plus it might bring our 'Knee-Grows' at home back in line.'
You know they be shouting about the vote 'an equal rights 'an all.....you believe that shit?
So I'll tell the President that you're in, right?
By the way boy, you sure do got a purty mouth.

Prime Minister Harold Wilson.

'Please send my best wishes to the President, and inform him that we won't be joining you in your war against North Vietnam...........good day to you sir.'
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:16 - Oct 1 with 1545 viewsSimonJames

All things being equal, Jeremy Corbyn will be 71 years old by the time of the next general election. At that age, I doubt he would have enough energy, let alone enough support, to run the country.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:28 - Oct 1 with 1529 viewsexiled_dictator

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:16 - Oct 1 by SimonJames

All things being equal, Jeremy Corbyn will be 71 years old by the time of the next general election. At that age, I doubt he would have enough energy, let alone enough support, to run the country.


at 71, i think the only thing that jc will be able to run is a bath.
but will need nursie to help sponge down his back.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:51 - Oct 1 with 1507 viewsderbyhoop

If you're not prepared to use the ultimate deterrent, it's not really much of a deterrent, is it?
The facts are that
a) Trident is outdated so it needs to be replaced or scrapped
b) the cost of any nuclear deterrent is monstrous. Is that the best use of £10bn in our defence budget? Or would we, as many armed forces professionals advocate, better spend on conventional forces
c) is it even relevant in a world where only 4 countries are ever likely to use it (USA, Russia, China, Israel)?
d) Corbyn is so unlikely to be in a position where such a decision needs to be made, unless his Labour party unexpectedly win the 2020 election.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:58 - Oct 1 with 1500 viewsNorthernr

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:51 - Oct 1 by derbyhoop

If you're not prepared to use the ultimate deterrent, it's not really much of a deterrent, is it?
The facts are that
a) Trident is outdated so it needs to be replaced or scrapped
b) the cost of any nuclear deterrent is monstrous. Is that the best use of £10bn in our defence budget? Or would we, as many armed forces professionals advocate, better spend on conventional forces
c) is it even relevant in a world where only 4 countries are ever likely to use it (USA, Russia, China, Israel)?
d) Corbyn is so unlikely to be in a position where such a decision needs to be made, unless his Labour party unexpectedly win the 2020 election.


LORD PALMERSTON.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 12:01 - Oct 1 with 1493 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:51 - Oct 1 by derbyhoop

If you're not prepared to use the ultimate deterrent, it's not really much of a deterrent, is it?
The facts are that
a) Trident is outdated so it needs to be replaced or scrapped
b) the cost of any nuclear deterrent is monstrous. Is that the best use of £10bn in our defence budget? Or would we, as many armed forces professionals advocate, better spend on conventional forces
c) is it even relevant in a world where only 4 countries are ever likely to use it (USA, Russia, China, Israel)?
d) Corbyn is so unlikely to be in a position where such a decision needs to be made, unless his Labour party unexpectedly win the 2020 election.


Not £10bn, it's £100bn.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 12:04 - Oct 1 with 1491 viewsTheBlob

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 10:46 - Oct 1 by BazzaInTheLoft

Not quite the Cuban missile crisis but still...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france


The good thing abot tunnels is they can easily be filled in.
I remember going to school on the Cuban missile ultimatum day and wondering whether it was going to be the last bus journey ever.Those Rooskies didn't do those namby pamby kiloton range nukes,it was all 10 megaton plus stuff hoisted aloft by their space launchers of the era.London would have copped it big time and all you could hope for was your sillhouette left on an adjacent building.Maybe if you'd struck a comedy pose in the last seconds survivors might have wondered who the hell you were.Now it's super accurate with a CEP of a few yards,could still ruin your entire day though.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 12:06 - Oct 1 with 1423 viewsDufster

Fortunately no one has had face that decision in reality....As mutually assured destruction is surly only acceptable to a true nut nut.

But you could therefore draw the assumption that by its very presence it has worked for the purpose it is was intended....as a deterrent

I Say!

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 12:07 - Oct 1 with 1420 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 12:04 - Oct 1 by TheBlob

The good thing abot tunnels is they can easily be filled in.
I remember going to school on the Cuban missile ultimatum day and wondering whether it was going to be the last bus journey ever.Those Rooskies didn't do those namby pamby kiloton range nukes,it was all 10 megaton plus stuff hoisted aloft by their space launchers of the era.London would have copped it big time and all you could hope for was your sillhouette left on an adjacent building.Maybe if you'd struck a comedy pose in the last seconds survivors might have wondered who the hell you were.Now it's super accurate with a CEP of a few yards,could still ruin your entire day though.


Could have done with some of that Friday evening just before kick off. It would have counted as a draw then.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 12:20 - Oct 1 with 1411 viewsElHoop

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:51 - Oct 1 by derbyhoop

If you're not prepared to use the ultimate deterrent, it's not really much of a deterrent, is it?
The facts are that
a) Trident is outdated so it needs to be replaced or scrapped
b) the cost of any nuclear deterrent is monstrous. Is that the best use of £10bn in our defence budget? Or would we, as many armed forces professionals advocate, better spend on conventional forces
c) is it even relevant in a world where only 4 countries are ever likely to use it (USA, Russia, China, Israel)?
d) Corbyn is so unlikely to be in a position where such a decision needs to be made, unless his Labour party unexpectedly win the 2020 election.


It's difficult. The danger of not replacing Trident is that you don't end up with any more conventional forces despite promising to do so. Probably some government or other would end up cutting the conventional forces sooner or later and so presumably nobody takes much notice of you at all at that stage. I think that Trident probably gets you a ticket to the table - who else would you want sitting there if not us? I dunno - depends on how the world ends - will it be our fault? Somehow I doubt it, so maybe we should keep our ticket for a while.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 17:03 - Oct 1 with 1351 viewsCliff

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:02 - Oct 1 by QPRMUSO

Corbin is an idiot the way he is splitting his party, I doubt he will be the leader of Labour this time next year. The press are starting to eat him alive as they are fed up with him saying they don't understand the new politics and all that nonsense. Don't forget, socialism is the start of communism and we know all about that. What he said yesterday about the nuclear button was pure lunacy, he will never be PM because of it.


and I assume you believe that conservatism is the start of fascism?
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 17:09 - Oct 1 with 1349 viewsJigsore

i'm sure Tony would. But only because God told him to of course

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 18:15 - Oct 1 with 1326 viewsHayesender

They would do what the Rothchilds tell them to do

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 20:46 - Oct 1 with 1290 viewsTacticalR

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 11:15 - Oct 1 by zicoshoops

Rewind back to the 60's.
The American Envoy trotted along Whitehall, turned into Downing st, secured his Horse and went inside.

'Mr Prime Minister, I have been ordered by our President to order you to join us in a War against the major threat to our system.
Won't take but a few months.......give our boys a chance to test out our new weapon systems.......hell, we might lose a handfull of our guys, but we'll take out a few hundred thousand of them.
Darned if the World's gonna miss a few Yellow men........plus it might bring our 'Knee-Grows' at home back in line.'
You know they be shouting about the vote 'an equal rights 'an all.....you believe that shit?
So I'll tell the President that you're in, right?
By the way boy, you sure do got a purty mouth.

Prime Minister Harold Wilson.

'Please send my best wishes to the President, and inform him that we won't be joining you in your war against North Vietnam...........good day to you sir.'


If I may correct the esteemed zicoshoops, Wilson publicly supported the Americans, and also provided them with considerable logistical support
http://www.historytoday.com/marc-tiley/britain-vietnam-and-special-relationship

Air hostess clique

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 04:01 - Oct 2 with 1220 viewsPlanetHonneywood

With French, American, Russian and jets from several other nations busy flying around Syria bombing the crap out of it, the issue of whether Dave would press the button, might become irrelevant should some 'friendly fire' go astray.

Personally, I think its a matter of time before UK Muslims look to form a political party, then the shiite is more likely to hit the fan.

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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:25 - Oct 2 with 1194 viewsBrightonhoop

Thatcher, according to Mitterands Biography, demanded he hand over the Exorcet codes to de-activate them under threat of Nuking Buenos Aries. He handed them over to avert Thatcher attacking the Argies with Nukes.
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Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:39 - Oct 2 with 1186 viewsisawqpratwcity

Which previous PMs would have been mad enough . . . on 08:25 - Oct 2 by Brightonhoop

Thatcher, according to Mitterands Biography, demanded he hand over the Exorcet codes to de-activate them under threat of Nuking Buenos Aries. He handed them over to avert Thatcher attacking the Argies with Nukes.


Ludicrous bollox. Britain would be the world's pariah if she had nuked BA over the Falklands.

Its just Mitterand practising CYA over giving Exocet secrets to Britain; just a pathetic lie to protect the French arms industry.

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