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Aramide Oteh 16:38 - Dec 4 with 1912 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Now playing for The New Saints, who are in the Euro Conference league playing Fiorentina etc!

Lumley in the PL, Oteh in Europe. What next next? Dozzell for England? Ozzy finding a club?

The world has gone mad I tell you.
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Aramide Oteh on 17:33 - Dec 4 with 1754 viewsGaryHaddock

Like I said in another thread, we are often the blip in an otherwise decent career.

In other words, it’s us not them.

In the case of Oteh and TNS though, the Cymru league is atrocious. I once made a visit to Briton Ferry v Barry. The stadium was step 7 standard but charming nonetheless.
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Aramide Oteh on 18:15 - Dec 4 with 1619 viewsGus_iom

Aramide Oteh on 17:33 - Dec 4 by GaryHaddock

Like I said in another thread, we are often the blip in an otherwise decent career.

In other words, it’s us not them.

In the case of Oteh and TNS though, the Cymru league is atrocious. I once made a visit to Briton Ferry v Barry. The stadium was step 7 standard but charming nonetheless.
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I would say that for the vast majority of players who leave us, we're the highlight of their career in terms of league status. Most drop down, which tells us more about our recruitment and ability to develop players, then anything else.
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Aramide Oteh on 18:30 - Dec 4 with 1574 viewsGaryHaddock

Aramide Oteh on 18:15 - Dec 4 by Gus_iom

I would say that for the vast majority of players who leave us, we're the highlight of their career in terms of league status. Most drop down, which tells us more about our recruitment and ability to develop players, then anything else.


That’s the case for most academies and clubs though, although I agree we are especially bad at it. An academy / club releases around 10-20 players a season I think.

Thats up to 480 players in the Championship’s case.

Although weren’t we once told that 13 players left our acadamies to join Prem teams under Ferdinand?

I was referring more to the Damian Delaneys, Jason Puncheons, Jordon Mutchs, and Alex McCarthys really.
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Aramide Oteh on 19:04 - Dec 4 with 1476 viewsLazyFan

Aramide Oteh on 18:30 - Dec 4 by GaryHaddock

That’s the case for most academies and clubs though, although I agree we are especially bad at it. An academy / club releases around 10-20 players a season I think.

Thats up to 480 players in the Championship’s case.

Although weren’t we once told that 13 players left our acadamies to join Prem teams under Ferdinand?

I was referring more to the Damian Delaneys, Jason Puncheons, Jordon Mutchs, and Alex McCarthys really.


Harvey Elliott is the latest one.

He was poached by Fulham, who in turn got him poached by Liverpool for at least a fee (I bet we got nothing).

Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230211202815/ https://firsttimefinish.co.uk/2021/02/18/the-inside-story-of-harvey-elliott/

zzzzzzzzzz

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Aramide Oteh on 19:17 - Dec 4 with 1441 viewsderbyhoop

I think you're about right on 13 players getting nicked from our Academy. For a grand total of £750K.
It's not so much the numbers but some of those we lost are now playing PL.

Harvey Elliot, Jordan Zemura and Luca Gunter were among the lads poached.
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Aramide Oteh on 08:50 - Dec 5 with 1026 viewsTheChef

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Poll: How old is everyone on here?

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Aramide Oteh on 19:06 - Dec 6 with 603 viewsstainrods_elbow

Aramide Oteh on 19:17 - Dec 4 by derbyhoop

I think you're about right on 13 players getting nicked from our Academy. For a grand total of £750K.
It's not so much the numbers but some of those we lost are now playing PL.

Harvey Elliot, Jordan Zemura and Luca Gunter were among the lads poached.
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My questions are:

1. Are we really more susceptible to said poaching than other Champ clubs?
2. Are we statistically develoiping/selling on fewer players than our rivals?
3. If so, what (if anything) can we do about it?

Poll: What points will we get from our 'Festive 3' (Swansea A, Norwich A, Watford H)?

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