| NFR - Freehold 08:18 - Aug 16 with 2628 views | HullDale |
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/two-year-ol
An absolutely awful read... horrible to know that conditions like these exist still so close to home. I've never heard anything good about RBH, and it seems that housing conditions for eligible people have dropped dramatically since the council outsourced their building, provision & upkeep to third parties such as RBH. |  | | |  |
| NFR - Freehold on 08:45 - Aug 16 with 2562 views | James1980 |
That's heartbreaking and absolutely disgusting that this is happening in a country that is supposedly in the top 10 richest. |  |
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| NFR - Freehold on 10:26 - Aug 16 with 2362 views | 49thseason |
| NFR - Freehold on 08:45 - Aug 16 by James1980 |
That's heartbreaking and absolutely disgusting that this is happening in a country that is supposedly in the top 10 richest. |
James, Rochdale is one of the poorest towns in the country. The Government has been sending refugees and asylum seekers here for since the end of WW2. The official numbers of asylum seekers are said to be 1 in 200 of the population, amongst the highest in the country but this in itself is misleading as they only count the person who applies for asylum, not his or her dependants or subsequent family reunions, equally they only give the statistics for current applicants, not cumulative figures including successful seekers who remain in the town. Consequently the pressure on cheap housing rises year on year, at one time Rochdale had one of the highest proportions of council housing, built post war, much of this stock is now privately owned. The concrete blocks of flats built in the late 60s and 70s are at or reaching the end of their projected lives, hence the inherent problems. Locals will remember the Ashfield Valley flats which lasted not much more than 20 years before being knocked down.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-dece
You might ask why so many people end up in Rochdale, the simple answer is the low cost of housing, not only do we have people from overseas arriving here, we also have high numbers of children in care arriving from other parts of the country because running care homes here is cheaper than most other areas of the country, hence our schools suffer from higher numbers of children requiring extra help and in circumstances that Ofsted do not recognise as problematic, for example a child arriving at Christmas from Africa who is in year 11 and does not speak English is expected to be entered in 8 GCSE exams the following May. Obviously the chances of passing are slim and his poor results will effect the results of the school overall which in turn deter good teachers from applying for jobs at the school with predictable results
The scandal gets worse when you consider that whole counties in the South take Asylum Seekers in single figures whilst many town like Rochdale take 100s each year.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/03/towns-rochdale-braintree-uk-asyl |  | | |
| NFR - Freehold on 12:19 - Aug 16 with 2179 views | James1980 |
| NFR - Freehold on 10:26 - Aug 16 by 49thseason |
James, Rochdale is one of the poorest towns in the country. The Government has been sending refugees and asylum seekers here for since the end of WW2. The official numbers of asylum seekers are said to be 1 in 200 of the population, amongst the highest in the country but this in itself is misleading as they only count the person who applies for asylum, not his or her dependants or subsequent family reunions, equally they only give the statistics for current applicants, not cumulative figures including successful seekers who remain in the town. Consequently the pressure on cheap housing rises year on year, at one time Rochdale had one of the highest proportions of council housing, built post war, much of this stock is now privately owned. The concrete blocks of flats built in the late 60s and 70s are at or reaching the end of their projected lives, hence the inherent problems. Locals will remember the Ashfield Valley flats which lasted not much more than 20 years before being knocked down.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-dece
You might ask why so many people end up in Rochdale, the simple answer is the low cost of housing, not only do we have people from overseas arriving here, we also have high numbers of children in care arriving from other parts of the country because running care homes here is cheaper than most other areas of the country, hence our schools suffer from higher numbers of children requiring extra help and in circumstances that Ofsted do not recognise as problematic, for example a child arriving at Christmas from Africa who is in year 11 and does not speak English is expected to be entered in 8 GCSE exams the following May. Obviously the chances of passing are slim and his poor results will effect the results of the school overall which in turn deter good teachers from applying for jobs at the school with predictable results
The scandal gets worse when you consider that whole counties in the South take Asylum Seekers in single figures whilst many town like Rochdale take 100s each year.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/03/towns-rochdale-braintree-uk-asyl |
Thank you for the detailed appraisal of the situation. Maybe I'm being too simplistic or idealistic by saying regardless of who they are or which part of the country they reside in, no one should live in the conditions described in that article. | |
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| NFR - Freehold on 12:24 - Aug 16 with 2165 views | ColDale |
| NFR - Freehold on 10:26 - Aug 16 by 49thseason |
James, Rochdale is one of the poorest towns in the country. The Government has been sending refugees and asylum seekers here for since the end of WW2. The official numbers of asylum seekers are said to be 1 in 200 of the population, amongst the highest in the country but this in itself is misleading as they only count the person who applies for asylum, not his or her dependants or subsequent family reunions, equally they only give the statistics for current applicants, not cumulative figures including successful seekers who remain in the town. Consequently the pressure on cheap housing rises year on year, at one time Rochdale had one of the highest proportions of council housing, built post war, much of this stock is now privately owned. The concrete blocks of flats built in the late 60s and 70s are at or reaching the end of their projected lives, hence the inherent problems. Locals will remember the Ashfield Valley flats which lasted not much more than 20 years before being knocked down.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-dece
You might ask why so many people end up in Rochdale, the simple answer is the low cost of housing, not only do we have people from overseas arriving here, we also have high numbers of children in care arriving from other parts of the country because running care homes here is cheaper than most other areas of the country, hence our schools suffer from higher numbers of children requiring extra help and in circumstances that Ofsted do not recognise as problematic, for example a child arriving at Christmas from Africa who is in year 11 and does not speak English is expected to be entered in 8 GCSE exams the following May. Obviously the chances of passing are slim and his poor results will effect the results of the school overall which in turn deter good teachers from applying for jobs at the school with predictable results
The scandal gets worse when you consider that whole counties in the South take Asylum Seekers in single figures whilst many town like Rochdale take 100s each year.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/03/towns-rochdale-braintree-uk-asyl |
Minor point but a student arriving from a non English speaking country in Year 10 or 11 would not count towards the school's results. |  | | |
| NFR - Freehold on 13:15 - Aug 16 with 2039 views | 49thseason |
| NFR - Freehold on 12:24 - Aug 16 by ColDale |
Minor point but a student arriving from a non English speaking country in Year 10 or 11 would not count towards the school's results. |
When I a Governor at a local school they (Ofsted) did just that, simply because they were on roll in January at the census. His country my well be English speaking but he wasn't.... Kenyan IIRC. We also had a lad who was in Prison when he should have been sitting his GCSEs , no exemption allowed but no opportunity to do his exams at the Prison! | | | |
| NFR - Freehold on 14:15 - Aug 16 with 1915 views | TVOS1907 |
| NFR - Freehold on 13:15 - Aug 16 by 49thseason |
When I a Governor at a local school they (Ofsted) did just that, simply because they were on roll in January at the census. His country my well be English speaking but he wasn't.... Kenyan IIRC. We also had a lad who was in Prison when he should have been sitting his GCSEs , no exemption allowed but no opportunity to do his exams at the Prison! |
Ofsted don't have anything to do with the reporting of exam results by a school. |  |
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| NFR - Freehold on 16:27 - Aug 16 with 1720 views | EllDale |
Society is paying a heavy price now for the style and type of architecture prevalent in social housing in the 1960's.
Especially the prefabricated flats which were so popular.
What to do though is a real dilemma. There's a housing shortage so you can't demolish them all and yet it's a losing battle trying to maintain them when they're past their shelf life. | | | |
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