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Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 301327 viewsEllDale

They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
Wonder what that’s all about?
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:43 - Mar 6 with 3932 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 17:29 - Mar 6 by kel

While I’m on, what’s your theory behind that?

Bet you don’t answer.


Not a theory as such, more an observation. A company that’s just posted £1.2m losses, is selling its assets (players) to pay bills and keep its lights on, whilst resorting to accepting charitable donations to cover legal bills is hardly flying?
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:44]
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:44 - Mar 6 with 3922 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:43 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Not a theory as such, more an observation. A company that’s just posted £1.2m losses, is selling its assets (players) to pay bills and keep its lights on, whilst resorting to accepting charitable donations to cover legal bills is hardly flying?
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:44]


So you don’t know if it’s more likely or not.

Cheers.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:46 - Mar 6 with 3918 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:33 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I presumed reference was being made to a recent admin or insolvency act that I hadn’t heard about but that’s been cleared up.

I wasn’t aware the referee to admin was going back decades…….


Well you presumed incorrectly then, didn’t you?

Do keep up.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:47 - Mar 6 with 3911 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 17:44 - Mar 6 by kel

So you don’t know if it’s more likely or not.

Cheers.


I’m not privilege to know the current financial health of either but simply working on perception right now if I had to place a bet I know where my money would go if that helps you.
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:49]
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:47 - Mar 6 with 3911 views1907

Hornets on Sunday on 11:47 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Super League being the “Elite” level of that sport.

Private ownership being not in the hands or ownership of “Supporters”.


Fook off Bottomley.

You’ll get what you deserve one day.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:49 - Mar 6 with 3891 viewsRAFCBLUE

Hornets on Sunday on 17:43 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Not a theory as such, more an observation. A company that’s just posted £1.2m losses, is selling its assets (players) to pay bills and keep its lights on, whilst resorting to accepting charitable donations to cover legal bills is hardly flying?
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:44]


You need to brush up on how to read a set of accounts RG.

At 31 May 2021 RAFC had a net worth of £1,501,843. After the trading losses caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.

Of that £1,501,843 it had £570,930 of cash at bank and in hand.

Now, I'm a betting man and I'm prepared to bet £100 for Springhill Hospice that the Rochdale Hornets accounts for November 2021 when published show neither a net worth of £1.5m nor cash at bank of £0.5m.

History suggests making a living in Rugby League is hard. Hornets accounts will be interesting reading.

A bit like Matthew Southall - hope they are filed on time!

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Hornets on Sunday on 17:51 - Mar 6 with 3863 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:47 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I’m not privilege to know the current financial health of either but simply working on perception right now if I had to place a bet I know where my money would go if that helps you.
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:49]


Pretty sure you said these “five guys” at hornets had a few quid between them.

Or are you forgetting the absolute bollocks you’re talking?

For a bloke who reckons he knows the groundswell of opinion in the town you don’t half mind avoiding questions when pressed on it. Yet to see you produce any evidence that worries me but I’m sure you’ll pop along with some soon. Or not.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:53 - Mar 6 with 3852 viewsRochdaleGlory

Hornets on Sunday on 17:49 - Mar 6 by RAFCBLUE

You need to brush up on how to read a set of accounts RG.

At 31 May 2021 RAFC had a net worth of £1,501,843. After the trading losses caused by the Covid-19 pandemic.

Of that £1,501,843 it had £570,930 of cash at bank and in hand.

Now, I'm a betting man and I'm prepared to bet £100 for Springhill Hospice that the Rochdale Hornets accounts for November 2021 when published show neither a net worth of £1.5m nor cash at bank of £0.5m.

History suggests making a living in Rugby League is hard. Hornets accounts will be interesting reading.

A bit like Matthew Southall - hope they are filed on time!


I don’t for one minute doubt you and there clearly is no money in rugby league so I won’t both with that bet if that’s ok with you.

Cheers
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:55 - Mar 6 with 3841 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:53 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I don’t for one minute doubt you and there clearly is no money in rugby league so I won’t both with that bet if that’s ok with you.

Cheers


Why not? You seem pretty confident they’re in a stronger position than “The AFC”. I’ve lost count of how many times you’ve backtracked on this thread. Comedy gold you.
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:55 - Mar 6 with 3844 views1907

Hornets on Sunday on 17:43 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Not a theory as such, more an observation. A company that’s just posted £1.2m losses, is selling its assets (players) to pay bills and keep its lights on, whilst resorting to accepting charitable donations to cover legal bills is hardly flying?
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:44]


What sort of Rochdale fan would make a comment like this?
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:56 - Mar 6 with 3840 viewsnordenblue

Hornets on Sunday on 17:53 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I don’t for one minute doubt you and there clearly is no money in rugby league so I won’t both with that bet if that’s ok with you.

Cheers


Sorry to jump in midway but for someone so confident you know the facts earlier in the thread, surely you'd take up the offer of a bet, easy money?
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Hornets on Sunday on 17:57 - Mar 6 with 3841 viewsRAFCBLUE

Hornets on Sunday on 17:53 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

I don’t for one minute doubt you and there clearly is no money in rugby league so I won’t both with that bet if that’s ok with you.

Cheers


17.47: "I’m not privilege to know the current financial health of either but simply working on perception right now if I had to place a bet I know where my money would go if that helps you.

17:53: "I don’t for one minute doubt you and there clearly is no money in rugby league so I won’t both with that bet if that’s ok with you.

Good to see the courage of your financial convictions lasted a whole 6 minutes.

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Hornets on Sunday on 17:57 - Mar 6 with 3837 viewsHullDale

Hornets on Sunday on 17:43 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

Not a theory as such, more an observation. A company that’s just posted £1.2m losses, is selling its assets (players) to pay bills and keep its lights on, whilst resorting to accepting charitable donations to cover legal bills is hardly flying?
[Post edited 6 Mar 2022 17:44]


Point of note - the 'club' isn't raising funds to cover its legal bills.

The legal action is against the Trust (so by proxy the fans) and individual directors. That's why the Trust is crowdfunding (very, very successfully by the look of it).

I don't know many businesses outside of healthcare (& related) that didn't make a loss in that financial year... it was also a financial year that included payrises for execs, as well as other documented issues with financial mismanagement and poor business accounting practises within the club. The new board can only be judged on the next set of accounts IMO.

Also - I don't think players were sold to 'keep the lights on'. Players were sold with the profits reinvested in the playing squad from what I can see. Morley could've gone for free in Summer, so (presuming we keep league 2 status) it was good business to sell him for £X now rather than nothing 5 months later.

For what its worth, too, I see Hornets as 'customers' of #RAFC. We have a product (stadium) that they want to buy (rent) so we should be doing what we can for them (customer is always right) so long as it isn't detrimental to ourselves.
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Hornets on Sunday on 18:00 - Mar 6 with 3811 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 17:57 - Mar 6 by RAFCBLUE

17.47: "I’m not privilege to know the current financial health of either but simply working on perception right now if I had to place a bet I know where my money would go if that helps you.

17:53: "I don’t for one minute doubt you and there clearly is no money in rugby league so I won’t both with that bet if that’s ok with you.

Good to see the courage of your financial convictions lasted a whole 6 minutes.


Arf!

He’s a keeper this one. We’ve not had one this thick since shakerbhoy spat his dummy.
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Hornets on Sunday on 18:21 - Mar 6 with 3777 viewsTVOS1907

Hornets on Sunday on 17:17 - Mar 6 by RochdaleGlory

So since the current lease agreements came into effect and we took ownership of the asset there hasn’t been an administration or insolvency.

Thank you for clearing that up.

Now I’m not a betting man but on current form I’d say there would be a greater chance of us going into admin than them.


We?

Us?

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Hornets on Sunday on 18:28 - Mar 6 with 3768 viewsTVOS1907

Hornets on Sunday on 17:55 - Mar 6 by 1907

What sort of Rochdale fan would make a comment like this?


He isn't one; he's a WUM from the takeover lot masquerading as a Dale fan, but he's not very good at it.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Hornets on Sunday on 18:35 - Mar 6 with 3744 viewskel

Hornets on Sunday on 18:28 - Mar 6 by TVOS1907

He isn't one; he's a WUM from the takeover lot masquerading as a Dale fan, but he's not very good at it.


Not very good is a bit of an understatement.

Thick as pig shit would be much better. I hope he carries on posting because since bury went tits up we haven’t had many thick tvvats to play with.
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:06 - Mar 7 with 3298 viewsBucketBstard

Didnt a lot of dislike of Hornets come about when they wouldnt pay the rent, and also used to train on the pitch Thursday with full floodlights( not paying the electric bill) , and damaging an already poor surface.
Or was this just hearsay to upset Dale fans ?
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:33 - Mar 7 with 3256 viewsDalenet

Hornets on Sunday on 16:06 - Mar 7 by BucketBstard

Didnt a lot of dislike of Hornets come about when they wouldnt pay the rent, and also used to train on the pitch Thursday with full floodlights( not paying the electric bill) , and damaging an already poor surface.
Or was this just hearsay to upset Dale fans ?


I think it was down to the perception that playing rugby in Jan-March when the pitch was strugling was a problem ...... especially when the old Rochdale Hornets weren't paying their bills. It just stirred up quite a bit of resentment. Of course the RL season doesn't now start til later.

But Dunphy did a deal and that allows Hornets to play at COA for a fee and Dale would own the ground and manage it accordingly. There shouldn't need to be any smugness from Rochdale Glory to be honest.
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Hornets on Sunday on 16:54 - Mar 7 with 3231 viewsTyroneShoelaces

Hornets on Sunday on 17:47 - Mar 6 by 1907

Fook off Bottomley.

You’ll get what you deserve one day.


My guess is Mazey (sp) or someone close to their Board
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Hornets on Sunday on 07:50 - Mar 8 with 2972 viewshammerdale

Hornets on Sunday on 16:54 - Mar 7 by TyroneShoelaces

My guess is Mazey (sp) or someone close to their Board


What makes you think that? The person closest to Hornets board is their Chief Exec I would have thought......no Dale fan on this forum thinks GLORY is any other than someone with an axe to grind. Nothing to do with anyone from Hornets.
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Hornets on Sunday on 09:18 - Mar 8 with 2911 viewsmingthemerciless

Hornets on Sunday on 07:50 - Mar 8 by hammerdale

What makes you think that? The person closest to Hornets board is their Chief Exec I would have thought......no Dale fan on this forum thinks GLORY is any other than someone with an axe to grind. Nothing to do with anyone from Hornets.


Maybe he’s somebody who watches both teams. I did for years.
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Hornets on Sunday on 11:38 - Mar 25 with 2470 viewsmingthemerciless

I see the same restrictions that were in place previously are still in place for this Sunday’s home game with North Wales Crusaders.

“ Parking will be free of charge on a first come first served basis “. What’s that all about ? Who gains from free parking apart from the car owners ?
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Hornets on Sunday on 13:33 - Mar 25 with 2295 viewsRAFCBLUE

Hornets on Sunday on 11:38 - Mar 25 by mingthemerciless

I see the same restrictions that were in place previously are still in place for this Sunday’s home game with North Wales Crusaders.

“ Parking will be free of charge on a first come first served basis “. What’s that all about ? Who gains from free parking apart from the car owners ?


I think the provision of free parking is to be applauded by all concerned.
It just an extra cost that puts people off coming and especially in these high inflationary times.

You can park for free on all of the streets around the ground so why not at the ground?

Hornets article says that Stadium capacity is limited to 920 including hospitality, press, and guests areas.

You'd think that 920 will be more than enough capacity given visitors from Colywn Bay. What will the crowd be? 400?

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Hornets on Sunday on 14:05 - Mar 25 with 2235 viewsEllDale

It would be interesting to know how many complimentary tickets Hornets dish out given that restriction of 920.
At one time in rugby league there was an agreement that the away team were always provided with 34 complimentaries for players wives and guests (13 players plus four substitutes x 2) plus around 20 tickets for directors and their guests.
I heard a couple of years ago that one or two clubs had scrapped this reciprocal arrangement as they said they couldn't afford it which isn't surprising.
I know quite a few professional players who now have it written into their contracts that they are provided with a couple of season tickets.
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