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This evening on the Indy
at 22:33 1 Oct 2024

You have to think Brendan is not the manager he once was.

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at 22:32 1 Oct 2024

The Trust represent the fans. The fans are customers of Swansea city football club. Of course they are praised. The fans show their love in season tickets and the club shop. What the old board were saying about them behind closed doors was something else. They were "the awkward squad" I suspect.

The historic board knew this. No one will criticise them as you are by definition criticising the fans. The mess they are in is entirely their own fault. No one will admit it. In Italy the clubs doff the caps their racist far right Ultras. It is open house on the owners.

Perhaps they will show up at the next forum. That would be a turn up. 'Roll up roll up the £5 is for the good of the club. Membership is so important'.

The money goes to the bank not the club.

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This evening on the Indy
at 21:10 1 Oct 2024

Langstaff not finding life so easy at the higher level as many expected.

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This evening on the Indy
at 20:37 1 Oct 2024

You logo suggests you might support an English team v a Welsh one that is not Swansea. There is nothing wrong with this by the way. Just the way you rumble.

Gore blimey Guvnur Every loves a Cockney accent.

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at 20:32 1 Oct 2024

It would have been better spent on young Welsh local footballers in my opinion or for facilities or kits do yo not agree? I would say that legal services if needed should be local wherever possible.

Remember the Trust biggest investment £400k is no benefit to Swansea or SW Wales at all. Shameful.

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at 19:41 1 Oct 2024

The last 10 years have demonstrated Swansea city fans in my opinion are not suitable for a place on the board of Swansea city FC.

The Trust is redundant and should be wound up. The structure model is suitable for clubs like Exeter city where they run the club but probably cannot borrow and no money to invest. 3000 members pay the deficit. Matt Grimes is among them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter_City_Supporters%27_Trust#:~:text=As%20Exe

I am grateful to Mr Silverstein to find a solution. The club are stuck with the Trust who can now do even less than they did before with the 5% fixed.

They received £500k of the other owners.

Their biggest investment has been in English legal firms £400k+ not local kids . Run by the fans what do you expect? It is not insulting fans it is asking them what the hell were they thiking?

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at 18:03 1 Oct 2024

This highlights the disastrous strategy of the Trust.with the shares valued at £1m per 1% they wanted to buy shares not sell shares. The wanted an extra 4% worth £4m. They did not have this money. They did not want cash they wanted shares.

It was a bad mistake and as I said the members seemingly did not cross examine this strategy.

A 25% ownership and a veto would prevent investment as any new money would affect the 25% holding so valued by the Trust. The club would be effectively controlled by people who are anti investment.

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at 15:36 1 Oct 2024

Why do you not mind your own business? I am a decent person and would never attempt to block free speech.

I disagreed with a number of people but am prepared to debate. We did this in my secondary school. In democracies different view are not only tolerated but encouraged.

A lack of debate failed the Trust. Back in 2015 none of the 1000 members demanded they consider selling at least some of their shares.

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at 22:20 30 Sep 2024

It was a notional conversation. There has been debate about if the club has new owners would the new owners buy the club itself or buy the parent company the LLC.

A new owner might want to take a majority holding and invest say £40m for 51%money the club could use.

The LLC is based in Delaware which has secrecy laws similar to Switzerland. (I am not an expert on this). DC are friendly with some Saudis. They did a pre season tour

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Swansea City put forward a project plan to play in the Welsh cup (part 2)
at 21:39 30 Sep 2024

There can be Welsh independence in politics while remaining in the English league which we all want (bar a few that probably do not like football).

The Crown estate take all the profits of many Welsh resources ensuring a bad notional balance of payments of £15 billion. It is a contrived number.

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at 21:33 30 Sep 2024

I can only speculate but this conversation is not wildly unrealistic.

Jason. "Andy there are things going on over here with regards to new faces in the LLC. We do not want you to put you in the loop over this and we want your to focus on Welsh matters. We can assure you these changes will have no bearing on your of Kens position".

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at 21:21 30 Sep 2024

That was common sense. The Trust had stated their shares were not up for sale and never would be. That has no mandate from the members which they needed and that would take about a year. The Trust wanted the status quo. They needed to act but did not.

The information is all available in contemporary press reports and he Trusts own statements. I have followed this matter and have come the the conclusion that committee's like this just drift aimlessly.becuase driving logical people are absent. Such people would be visible and positive.

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at 19:05 30 Sep 2024

The US people offered to buy the Trust shares. The Trust shares were not up for sale which suited the other owners perfectly. The Trust had not arranged their ducks after the 2015 approach because the smarter members were asleep.

They had another go in 2017 but could not agree terms. The buyer lost patience and walked. All shareholders sold their shares except the Trust.

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at 18:38 30 Sep 2024

Do the Trust turn up for these things? . The fourth guy at the last one was the commercial director who made a good fist of it. I suspect they will not be available for questions.

They write their own history and no one dare contradict them. They represent the fans or the paying customers so have a free pass. When they look for a strategy instead of employing a consultant they ask the fans who are clueless. This is why they are shrinking to the 5% core and missed the boat when buyer were circling a Premier league success story.

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at 18:26 30 Sep 2024

No I have no inside track. It is a narrative. The forum has a narrative Cooper was not backed. He started the second season with two of Europe's great talents. Gyorkeres and Gibbs-White. G-W got injured but Levien still had to pay the bills and get him fit. If he was American fans would have called him a crock. Jordan Morris is having a great season in USA.

Cooper was backed but failed. He is a manager and writes his own narrative. "I was not backed"

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at 12:43 30 Sep 2024

Cooper had Gyorkeres as a centre forward to be developed. All he needed was care and game time. He wanted Keinan Davis instead. The owners told he had Big Vic and they could not afford Davis. He claimed no backing. Levien was right Cooper was wrong. Fans wi never have it even with high sight.

They support Copper by saying no fans overrated him either which is besides the point.

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Wednesday fans at it again
at 22:36 29 Sep 2024

Filth is filth. Disrespectful chants are disrespectful. Yes I call them out as the same. I am not gas lighted to see filth as acceptable or a birthright.

In my book no one gets a free pass even our neighbours who allow us to play in their league.

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at 20:45 29 Sep 2024

Cullen has had a good start to the season fair play to him. He must earn his rise. His finish just week was razor sharp. I do not recall saying £5k a week was too much but he is playing better anyway. He will get his £5pw if he keeps scoring.

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at 20:12 29 Sep 2024

Swansea has been paying Championship wages and losing £1.5m a month. Clubs who pay " championship" wages are ALL losing money.

Swansea need to get promoted paying £5k a week not £10k a week. Darling has to go in January. Cullen and Cabango should accept £5k with bonuses. It is a real good wage outside the Premier league. If a PL clubs comes in no player will see their future blocked.

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at 19:36 29 Sep 2024

I said Levien would say "no idea" if he was not furnished with the latest information. I argue he has delegated this to Coleman who he might speak to one a week perhaps?

One question could be " how often do you speak to Jason.?"

Ev n if Coleman did know something he h would not tell the journalist. " No idea " ends the conversation route Coleman night want to go down. He is experienced..

You must know Levien better than me. I do not know how closely he follows the club since he put Coleman in charge. I do not accept your guarantee as Levien lives his life as he like with family interests DC and the Aussie team in his list of things to attend to. Fans know better of course.

I stated both would not tread on each others toes as they are experienced business people. It is common in business to define responsibilities for a "single voice". You may understand this or you may not. No mixed signals.

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