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at 21:29 25 Feb 2025

If Stoke don't get relegated then it will be a QPR 22/23 level of fortune.
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QPR finances released
at 21:25 25 Feb 2025

You think they'll drop?

I wait to be proved wrong but I'd be surprised if they dropped for the next set of accounts 12 months from now. Last season was the one where we had to limbo under the line and get the losses down to as close to £10m as we could. To do that, and stay up, we gave out a number of contracts to Colback, Cook, Andersen, Frey that were heavily, HEAVILY, weighted towards year two when we had more cap space.
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QPR finances released
at 16:06 25 Feb 2025

I mean, this is nuts. It's nuts.

Nobody would run a hotel, an airline, a pub, and insurance broker, with 125% wages to turnover and consider that quite good going.

You see here why we always have the Rotherham, Plymouth, Peterborough types in the bottom three of our season preview. Follow the wage bill. Oxford are either spending hideously or doing incredibly well for their spend.
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Hammersmith Bridge
at 15:50 25 Feb 2025

It feels like there's something like that coming. Like the late 90s when you had Hatfield, Potters Bar, Ladbroke Grove and Southall all at once on the railways. Feels like something similar is coming in aviation in the States.
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Meanwhile at Man Utd
at 15:26 25 Feb 2025

One of the biggest shames in football is teenage lads being dragged out of school, handed millions of pounds, told they're going to be the next big thing, and then more often than not dumped in their mid 20s, with no education, having been given no guidance on what to do with that money.

This lad always sticks in my mind. Bang average footballer, played non league his whole life in the end, but as a junior was highly rated in the Sheff Utd academy. Killed some poor bastard on the M1 driving to his loan at Southampton in a super high power Mercedes. What is a teenager with 0 (0) appearances for Sheff Utd doing with a car like that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Robertson

I couldn't help but notice Harrison Ashby's watch in those Westfield pics last week. If you know your watches...
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Hammersmith Bridge
at 14:47 25 Feb 2025

And also the way our planning laws have developed and now function.

HS2 is obviously king and queen of this but...

The Lower Thames Tunnel is more than a decade old as a proposal, no spade in the ground. The planning document now runs to 359,000 pages and 2,383 separate documents. National Highways has spent £237m on it already, and we haven't started digging yet.

The Bakerloo Line extension should have just been done and finished years ago. Crossrail Two north to south likewise.

We should have high speed rail across this country, as it is we can't even get round to electrifying the railway we've got. You've got diesel trains running under wires. You've got electric trains having to stop and pull their pantograpph down to do diesel for bits of the same journey. We've had to pay extra for heavier, less efficient trains so they can run duel mode.

It's nuts.

Look at this map of London Pubs closed or facing draconian licensing conditions because of complaints from residents who moved in next to a pub then complained there was a pub there...

https://www.the-londoner.co.uk/noise-complaints-killing-londons-pubs/

Just build the fcking bridge already.
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Meanwhile at Man Utd
at 00:09 25 Feb 2025

Who, Lee Hoos?
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Meanwhile at Man Utd
at 00:08 25 Feb 2025

Thirded.

I've waited my whole life for them to be like this.
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Meanwhile at Man Utd
at 19:12 24 Feb 2025

Lee Hoos once said in an interview with us "at the end of the day, no football club ever went bust by ordering too much stationary".

Close the staff canteen if you like, you'll still be paying 33-year-old Casemiro £16m a year.
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The Morgan - Varane - Field midfield
at 18:43 24 Feb 2025

I think that's what they thought they were buying as well.
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Meanwhile at Man Utd
at 17:49 24 Feb 2025

I don't know if it's still the case but United used to have a London-based news/content team of journalists pumping out content for their various channels etc, as well as a Manchester based one.

The list of demands QPR received, just on the media side, to accommodate MUTV and all those cnts for the pre-season friendly here ran to the length of a decent paperback.

Man City, of course, infamously employ more "journalists" on staff than the Manchester Evening News.
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The Morgan - Varane - Field midfield
at 17:07 24 Feb 2025

TBF to him at home this has brought some impressive performances - Norwich, Luton, Watford, Blackburn, Derby. But it's not working away and I broadly agree with you. We've seen what works and what doesn't. I know in an ideal world we'd have all the midget gems out there, but I'm afraid that's just the squad we've recruited.

It is, sadly, another problem caused by Madsen being such a donkey. A massive, 6ft 4ins, box-to-box central midfielder, picking the ball up and progressing it, physically dominant, good on both sides of the ball, transforms our team, which is why we paid so much money to get him here and why it's such a problem that he's crap.
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Known knowns – Report
at 17:04 24 Feb 2025

I want it minuted that Jeff's "isn't that a bit excessive for a 90 minute journey?" proved to be entirely unfair criticism.
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Known knowns – Report
at 17:03 24 Feb 2025

You know you're in the sht when those two turn up.
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QPR finances released
at 17:00 24 Feb 2025

And you don't pay very much attention to him
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QPR finances released
at 16:13 24 Feb 2025

We have asked and they won't say. For once I'm kind of with them on that, you don't really want buying or selling clubs knowing how close you are on that line. Nourry and Hoos have both said we underestimate what counts as a disallowable cost though, suggesting we were not as close to the line as we made out - although given our three year total is now well in breach one can only assume there are LOTS of disallowable costs.
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QPR finances released
at 15:59 24 Feb 2025

"We have spent £6m net, so whatever we recovered for Armstrong & Dykes we also spent on top of the £6m to get the gross outlay."

That's the key bit. That's how I got to £9m.
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QPR finances released
at 15:44 24 Feb 2025

Well I read it that the post balance sheet note says a NET outflow of £4.3m with another liability of £1.66m NET on top of that (like you say, presumably Dembele or Saito). So that's a NET spend of £5.96m, which if we did get £2m for Armstrong and £1m for Dykes equals around £9m, no? If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up by I've spoken with people that know these things better than me and they read it the same.

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Paal/clueless Rs players post-match
at 14:57 24 Feb 2025

It wouldn't be much of a message board if you were only allowed to post stuff you'd got on the record, with date time and place of who said it. It's football transfers lads, not nuclear codes. And as I've said before, sources don't tend to stick around too long if you out them publicly.

In Paal's case, though, Cifuentes himself said in a pre-season friendly interview "we can't have players like that hanging around in the last year of their contract" when asked about him leaving, so that's not a bad source for a kick off.

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Known knowns – Report
at 13:47 24 Feb 2025

Premier League team of officials that, remarkably.
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