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at 21:57 21 Mar 2019
Non of the quotes are yours I agree. However the fact you have dragged up a quote by one of the Rothschilds to imply that the world is controlled by a shady elite buys into a very well known anti-jewish conspiracy theory perpetuated by the far right. Please do not give this kind of content any kind of air time. |
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at 21:51 21 Mar 2019
It isn't, I was replying to the question about how 'we' will benefit from remaining in the EU. since I can't and wouldn't speak on anyone else's behalf I was talking anecdotally. I am also genuinely interested in hearing other people's reasons for leaving on a personal level. I hear a lot of talk of principles, but the most insightful conversations I have with my leave voting colleagues and friends have centered around certain regulations increasing the cost of materials used by their business etc. |
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at 21:42 21 Mar 2019
I am sorry but implying the world is controlled by the 'Rothschilds' is a dog whistle for anti-semitism. This is pure conspiracy theory nonsense. |
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at 21:37 21 Mar 2019
I quoted the bbc because it quotes from the official report, found here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attac
The bbc here is more easily digestable. The figure remains the same.
In terms of job losses, working in the city I can tell you that they are real:
https://www.ft.com/content/016171be-4a74-11e9-8b7f-d49067e0f50d
You might enjoy a few financial services employees leaving to the continent, but each one is now paying their tax in a different country.
You are correct that a recession didn't occur, but what did occur was UK bond yield's rising, our credit rating downgrading, the £ losing 10% of its value and the FTSE devaluing. Not a recession but not positive news.
I have personally befitted from being able to travel and work freely in Europe. Every company I have worked for has had a multitude of highly skilled EU migrants who may have gone elsewhere if the work restrictions were tighter. My mum was recently cared for after her op on the NHS at Oldham Royal by a pair of polish nurses (who will be forced to return home as they are below the gov's proposed £30k a year salary cap). The average EU migrant pays £2000 a year more a year into the treasury than the average Brit. I like having a larger national budget which pays for the services I and my friends/family use. |
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at 21:24 21 Mar 2019
Exactly, which is why I try and avoid using presumptive language where possible.
I absolutely agree with you that no one wants an Irish border. I also agree we will never 'put up' a border. However this will result in smuggling of goods into the UK, alongside Illegal immigration. This might not be an issue for you, I or the average punter, but to maintain the integrity of UK food, medicine standards etc. we would have to start implementing checks internal checks (or at least in the Irish sea). This is potentially very expensive, time consuming and will be an in issue in signing future trade deals (we won't be able to guarantee if goods from the UK actually conform to British standards).
I fear this would end up with the UK gov effectively kicking out N Ireland because this is not sustainable long term |
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at 21:05 21 Mar 2019
 fantastic |
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at 21:03 21 Mar 2019
No fishing, just interested in honest debate. Which I feel there is a distinct lack of in the current national rhetoric |
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at 21:01 21 Mar 2019
Also what is so inherantly wrong with the customs union? Literally every single country in the world has some form of customs union with their direct neighbours. It enables strength in trade negotiations through forcing other countries to obey by the larger trading's blocks rules and regulations. There is a reason why the Trump named not Russia or China his greatest foe, but the EU. This is because as a united bloc we have more leverage than the US. This fact is a truly remarkable accomplishment considering how divided Europe a century ago and it makes me feel proud that we are a major part of that. Countries around the world are licking their lips at the thought of a stranded UK with no trade deals coming begging for one without the leverage we enjoyed in the bloc. Hello chlorinated chicken and full access of private US pharma companies to the NHS:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/15/trump-threatens-use-us-trade-talks-f
Trump wants a fast US-UK trade deal not because he's friends with us, but because he wants to exploit us in a position where we are at our most vulnerable.
I don't understand what we serve to gain from 'creating our on laws' either. We 'win'/accept 95% of the laws that vote on in the EU Council, with us only having to implement <2% of laws we voted against (mostly tax avoidance actually surprise surprise when we have lots of UKIP/Tory MEPs liek Farage representing us).
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-facts-behind-claims-uk-influence/ |
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at 20:48 21 Mar 2019
Can you please name one law that you look forward to being released from on the morning of the 30th March ? Not being sneering, I am genuinely interested. |
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at 21:01 9 Jul 2018
He’s also been consistent with his view that abortion should be illegal in all circumstance (including rape and incest). He’s also consistent with his views that gay people shouldn’t have the same rights as everyone else. And that the NHS needs to be privatised as it it “too expensive”. And that disabled people should be refused benefits, as well as those out of work. Oh and anti-climatic change, pro zero hours contracts, reduced workers rights and is one of Trump’s biggest fans. But as long as he’s consistent and he’ll tell “Ol’ Johnny Foriner” to “do one” right? As a Etonian multi millionaire landlord with most of his money offshore or now moved to Dublin he’s doesn’t really represent me, but I maybe that’s just me?  |
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Thread | That penalty decision
at 16:27 22 Sep 2012
Im sat behind the goal in the pearl street end and I'm incredulous about that penalty and red card. Are defenders not allowed to even brush an opponent with their shoulder? Hope we don't pay for it |
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Thread | A silver lining?
at 17:25 8 Sep 2012
Most of our outfield play was dire today, but I thought Josh Lillis had a cracker in goal. I was in the pearl street and couldn't see it very well but it looked like he saved a rocket of a shot in the first half. He also made a cracking save with his leg in the second half. He looked a little more commanding in the air and definately deserved the man of the match and if he keeps these kind of performances up then I would think we would have got ourselves a smashing keeper ... [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Reply | Matthew Barnes-Homer scores
at 16:48 25 Aug 2012
Might be a little bit of sarcasm in there though! He was one of the worst players to pull on the Rochdale shirt |
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Thread | Matthew Barnes-Homer scores
at 16:43 25 Aug 2012
For Macclesfield against Lincoln. Who says miracles don't happen? We should get him back as a replacement for Adebola; Steve Err thought he was good enough to be a target man! |
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