| Faurlin 17:38 - Nov 2 with 21897 views | Nov77 |
Being sent for a scan on Monday.
Redknapp: "It doesn't look good. It's his left knee. Everyone's keeping everything crossed that it's not as bad as we fear."
Ian Taylor: "Big win for the R's. Soured by the injury to @alefaurlin. Everyone at the club praying it's not as bad as we fear."
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| Faurlin on 16:50 - Nov 4 with 1996 views | daveB |
| Faurlin on 16:36 - Nov 4 by Gloucs_R |
Why would we give a crocked player another contract??? He has made £15k plus a week for the last few years, even if his career ended he would still be comfortable for life.
I feel sorry for the bloke but I don't get the logic of giving him another contract. The Honorable thing would be to let his contract expire but continue to offer medical support and offer him a trial when he starts to regain fitness. |
I'd give him a one year deal, if he comes back fine then we extend it, if not then we shake hands and let him go in 2015. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:54 - Nov 4 with 1988 views | 18StoneOfHoop |
| Faurlin on 16:36 - Nov 4 by Gloucs_R |
Why would we give a crocked player another contract??? He has made £15k plus a week for the last few years, even if his career ended he would still be comfortable for life.
I feel sorry for the bloke but I don't get the logic of giving him another contract. The Honorable thing would be to let his contract expire but continue to offer medical support and offer him a trial when he starts to regain fitness. |
If the worst happens 6-9 months down the line and Ale can't regain satisfactory fitness, then surely, Gloucs and Dave B,the club will find him a role coaching? Or maybe rather like the England right-back Danny Thomas at Spurs,once his playing career was ended prematurely at 27 by Gavin Maguire's reckless tackle, he was offered the chance and given the time and backing to become a club physio within WHL.
Whatever he wants really. He's been through so much with us - 2 ACLs on 2 different legs and the sheer stress of the Faurlingate saga in the promotion season - that he's family now and we'll look after our own.
Look at the way Redknapp has gone out of his way to find Kevin Gallen a role at the club even if he hasn't got all the necessary coaching badges and certificates yet and I'm sure Tony Fernandes feels and will act the same with Ale.
For those who say football is a ruthless,tough cynical business not run on sentiment, I say not here at moneybags QPR mate it's in fact just the reverse. Tony Fernandes & his Malaysian business allies on the board (and Amit Bhatia and his 5th richest man in the world father-in-law when they were more hands-on) with their unfathomably deep pockets have shown in deed and action, time after time, that they are prepared to part with oodles of hard dosh and willing to operate with some huge losses in the short term, on matters of sentiment and fantasy. They are in no way asset stripping this club but neither are they making any money.I think QPR represents a fascinating,compulsive hobby for them.They're taking a massive multi million $$$ hit to have a little fun. Not the usual ruthless climate of any normal (or indeed their other) business(es).
Faurlin wouldn't stay to make money or be an investment ; he would be a representative of what this small decent family club is all about. Maybe given a role something like long-serving Simon Morgan at Fulham in his community outreach work ..I don't know.. but I think Tony F and his partners have the ability,the commitment,the wherewithall ,of course, and ultimately the wise good sense to stay on board with the fans.
Unlike Flab & Bern, TF manifestly cares very much about what we think.The very opposite to his compatriot at Cardiff. And can you imagine monogrammed beslippered vain elitist Billionaires Boys Club oldest thong-swinger in town Tango setting foot in The 'Bok? I think he'd rather shop at Aldi or wash his face in his trophy wife's urine than do that.
The board can and I'm sure they will sort AF here for life if he should want it. Leafy Ravenscourt Park can continue to be a great place to grow up for his kids.
No way would this come down to a hard-nosed business decision alone. AF is a very special case. I like how westberksr put it at 15:26 on the third page of this excellent thread: "He's never once let us down by being a typical footballer." Know worraberks means,Joseph? [Post edited 4 Nov 2013 18:59]
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Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
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| Faurlin on 17:04 - Nov 4 with 1947 views | Gloucs_R |
| Faurlin on 16:54 - Nov 4 by 18StoneOfHoop |
If the worst happens 6-9 months down the line and Ale can't regain satisfactory fitness, then surely, Gloucs and Dave B,the club will find him a role coaching? Or maybe rather like the England right-back Danny Thomas at Spurs,once his playing career was ended prematurely at 27 by Gavin Maguire's reckless tackle, he was offered the chance and given the time and backing to become a club physio within WHL.
Whatever he wants really. He's been through so much with us - 2 ACLs on 2 different legs and the sheer stress of the Faurlingate saga in the promotion season - that he's family now and we'll look after our own.
Look at the way Redknapp has gone out of his way to find Kevin Gallen a role at the club even if he hasn't got all the necessary coaching badges and certificates yet and I'm sure Tony Fernandes feels and will act the same with Ale.
For those who say football is a ruthless,tough cynical business not run on sentiment, I say not here at moneybags QPR mate it's in fact just the reverse. Tony Fernandes & his Malaysian business allies on the board (and Amit Bhatia and his 5th richest man in the world father-in-law when they were more hands-on) with their unfathomably deep pockets have shown in deed and action, time after time, that they are prepared to part with oodles of hard dosh and willing to operate with some huge losses in the short term, on matters of sentiment and fantasy. They are in no way asset stripping this club but neither are they making any money.I think QPR represents a fascinating,compulsive hobby for them.They're taking a massive multi million $$$ hit to have a little fun. Not the usual ruthless climate of any normal (or indeed their other) business(es).
Faurlin wouldn't stay to make money or be an investment ; he would be a representative of what this small decent family club is all about. Maybe given a role something like long-serving Simon Morgan at Fulham in his community outreach work ..I don't know.. but I think Tony F and his partners have the ability,the commitment,the wherewithall ,of course, and ultimately the wise good sense to stay on board with the fans.
Unlike Flab & Bern, TF manifestly cares very much about what we think.The very opposite to his compatriot at Cardiff. And can you imagine monogrammed beslippered vain elitist Billionaires Boys Club oldest thong-swinger in town Tango setting foot in The 'Bok? I think he'd rather shop at Aldi or wash his face in his trophy wife's urine than do that.
The board can and I'm sure they will sort AF here for life if he should want it. Leafy Ravenscourt Park can continue to be a great place to grow up for his kids.
No way would this come down to a hard-nosed business decision alone. AF is a very special case. I like how westberksr put it at 15:26 on the third page of this excellent thread: "He's never once let us down by being a typical footballer." Know worraberks means,Joseph? [Post edited 4 Nov 2013 18:59]
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Purely from a business perspective, why would you do this? Its not good business sense. |  |
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| Faurlin on 17:12 - Nov 4 with 1921 views | daveB |
| Faurlin on 17:04 - Nov 4 by Gloucs_R |
Purely from a business perspective, why would you do this? Its not good business sense. |
This a club who are paying over a million pound a year to players like Shaun Wright Phillips, Ji Sung Park, Cesar, Granero, Mbia the list goes on. I think showing a bit of loyalty for Faurlin on far less wages than these people does make good business sense as it shows players at the club now and looking to join in the future that the club are not going to stick two fingers up and throw you out if you get an injury. it's a club that will repay your loyalty | | | |
| Faurlin on 17:18 - Nov 4 with 1908 views | Westy75 |
| Faurlin on 17:12 - Nov 4 by daveB |
This a club who are paying over a million pound a year to players like Shaun Wright Phillips, Ji Sung Park, Cesar, Granero, Mbia the list goes on. I think showing a bit of loyalty for Faurlin on far less wages than these people does make good business sense as it shows players at the club now and looking to join in the future that the club are not going to stick two fingers up and throw you out if you get an injury. it's a club that will repay your loyalty |
Exactly. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 17:19 - Nov 4 with 1892 views | JonDoeman |
| Faurlin on 17:12 - Nov 4 by daveB |
This a club who are paying over a million pound a year to players like Shaun Wright Phillips, Ji Sung Park, Cesar, Granero, Mbia the list goes on. I think showing a bit of loyalty for Faurlin on far less wages than these people does make good business sense as it shows players at the club now and looking to join in the future that the club are not going to stick two fingers up and throw you out if you get an injury. it's a club that will repay your loyalty |
Well said Dave...... I'm sure they'll look after him. |  |
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| Faurlin on 17:39 - Nov 4 with 1845 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 17:04 - Nov 4 by Gloucs_R |
Purely from a business perspective, why would you do this? Its not good business sense. |
For exactly the same reason it was a lousy way to treat Robert Green the way we did 18 months ago, bringing him in as number one and then bumping him when somebody better came along just four weeks later. It sends out a very clear message to the playing staff about their value to the club and how they'll be treated the second a better option presents itself.
Faurlin should be offered a one year extension on the same terms and given a fair chance to get back to fitness. Releasing him would be releasing him into a world of uncertainty about whether he'd even get a club at all — two ACL injuries in both knees and no football for nine months isn't what you look for when you're picking up summer transfers.
QPR can send out a really clear message here about how much they've changed as a club. That would help them attract a much better calibre of player in the future. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 17:55 - Nov 4 with 1809 views | stevec |
| Faurlin on 17:39 - Nov 4 by Northernr |
For exactly the same reason it was a lousy way to treat Robert Green the way we did 18 months ago, bringing him in as number one and then bumping him when somebody better came along just four weeks later. It sends out a very clear message to the playing staff about their value to the club and how they'll be treated the second a better option presents itself.
Faurlin should be offered a one year extension on the same terms and given a fair chance to get back to fitness. Releasing him would be releasing him into a world of uncertainty about whether he'd even get a club at all — two ACL injuries in both knees and no football for nine months isn't what you look for when you're picking up summer transfers.
QPR can send out a really clear message here about how much they've changed as a club. That would help them attract a much better calibre of player in the future. |
Sentimentally, it would be great if the club did give him a one year extension on his contract to prove his fitness. Of course, its not our money.
From that perspective, someone mentioned Ale is on around £15k a week, so given our section of LR covers approx 15,000 then if each and every one of us paid £50 each, that would cover the extended contract. Any takers? |  | | |
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| Faurlin on 17:59 - Nov 4 with 1800 views | BklynRanger |
Completely depressing stuff. I feel like crying for Ale so god knows how he must feel?
We'd fcuking better do the right thing by him. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 18:03 - Nov 4 with 1784 views | ShotKneesHoop |
| Faurlin on 17:12 - Nov 4 by daveB |
This a club who are paying over a million pound a year to players like Shaun Wright Phillips, Ji Sung Park, Cesar, Granero, Mbia the list goes on. I think showing a bit of loyalty for Faurlin on far less wages than these people does make good business sense as it shows players at the club now and looking to join in the future that the club are not going to stick two fingers up and throw you out if you get an injury. it's a club that will repay your loyalty |
I wish this was likely. Ask Sir Alec's relative's Mark Lazarus, and the rest about QPR's loyalty to date.
This proves that life ain't fair, 'Arry didn't want Faulin, he tried to offload him, Faulin came back, 'Arry refused to pick him, Faulin came back, when 'Arry had to pick him, Faulin took two games to show what he could do. Crcoked again, let's hope Faulin comes back again.
Just hope our Tone realises that Faulin only ever wanted to play for the hoops, and that there is still some value in loyalty and sentiment left in the club.
As DaveB says, the wasters he names have a charmed life because of their lack of commitment. The only thing they'll damage is their back pocket.
Just hope Faulin is not too old in the tooth to finish up with knees like mine. My cruciates are the only ligaments I have left, the rest of the chestnuts are running on cat gut. |  |
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| Faurlin on 18:09 - Nov 4 with 1768 views | TW_R |
| Faurlin on 17:12 - Nov 4 by daveB |
This a club who are paying over a million pound a year to players like Shaun Wright Phillips, Ji Sung Park, Cesar, Granero, Mbia the list goes on. I think showing a bit of loyalty for Faurlin on far less wages than these people does make good business sense as it shows players at the club now and looking to join in the future that the club are not going to stick two fingers up and throw you out if you get an injury. it's a club that will repay your loyalty |
I agree with Gloucs. As much as I hope Ale can make a full recovery and be playing again by April, it would be madness to give him any kind of deal come June of he's not fit. We've constantly moaned about buying players with poor injury records, so, no matter how much we all love him, it would not make much sense in giving him a new deal unless we know he'll be playing again. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 18:13 - Nov 4 with 1754 views | Pommyhoop |
Bollix..Just got up and logged on to learn this crap news.Gutted for Ali. As already said I hope the club give him the year extension and chance to recover. |  |
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| Faurlin on 18:59 - Nov 4 with 1656 views | jonno |
| Faurlin on 17:39 - Nov 4 by Northernr |
For exactly the same reason it was a lousy way to treat Robert Green the way we did 18 months ago, bringing him in as number one and then bumping him when somebody better came along just four weeks later. It sends out a very clear message to the playing staff about their value to the club and how they'll be treated the second a better option presents itself.
Faurlin should be offered a one year extension on the same terms and given a fair chance to get back to fitness. Releasing him would be releasing him into a world of uncertainty about whether he'd even get a club at all — two ACL injuries in both knees and no football for nine months isn't what you look for when you're picking up summer transfers.
QPR can send out a really clear message here about how much they've changed as a club. That would help them attract a much better calibre of player in the future. |
I think that's exactly what will happen. TF said the Club will look after Ale and I believe he is a man of his word. Don't forget Ale is also probably his favourite player. He's a model professional and never been a problem. As you say, it also sends out a message to other players so there is actually some business sense in doing it. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 19:05 - Nov 4 with 1642 views | Hunterhoop |
| Faurlin on 16:06 - Nov 4 by simmo |
Has anybody heard from Hunter? Someone might want to knock in after work and confiscate his shoelaces... |
hehe.
Totally gutted. Bit numb about it really. Not sure it's sunk in. I wasn't at the game on Saturday due to a really good mate getting married. Getting text updates left and centre when it happened. F*cking cursed him as I text one mate "how's Ale playing btw" and before he could respond my mum (yep, ST!) text to say "Faurlin has done his knee".
As someone 6 months into a rehab after rupturing my ACL and having knee reconstruction surgery, all I can say is it is such a slow process. The only saving grace is it's his other knee. Though saying that, the re-rupture rate, even if you use patella tendon as the graft in the surgery (over hamstring) is still 5-10%.
He'll be such a loss and it's so cruel it happened just as he was beginning to assert himself in the middle and when we'd FINALLY got Barton and Ale together - clearly our best CM combo.
Sure we'll get in players to cover but it just feels so unfair on him. I really hope the club look after him and give him the one year extension. If we don't I think we'll regret it in 2-3 years time. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 19:12 - Nov 4 with 1618 views | BromleyHoop |
I would think that there is a middle ground to the two courses of action that are being talked of here.
Ale is going to spend the rest of his remaining contract recovering from the surgery and then getting fit. Taking sentimentality out of it, I really don't see why the club would offer a contract to a player that they can't select for matches.
However, if they were to allow Ale to continue to have the use of all medical facilities and training for up to, say, 6 months after the end of his contract then they could consider, if his recovery had all had gone well, offering him a new contract, probably on reduced terms, towards the end of next year.
The club would then have stood by Faurlin in his struggle to return to fitness but at no financial loss to the club. Win win ??
In the short term I think it would be a nice touch by the club if they produced some sort of large flag / banner with a tribute to Ale on it. Love the 32nd minute song idea.
Bien suerte Alejandro y un recuparacion muy rapido. [Post edited 4 Nov 2013 19:29]
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| Faurlin on 19:15 - Nov 4 with 1609 views | 18StoneOfHoop |
Can you run without pain yet, Hunter? Will you be able to play footie again?
Just want to know how severely broken legs/ACL injuries feel in the long run.
Apparently according to Wikipedia the legendary Liverpool hard man 1962-1978 rightback and racist 68 year old Tommy Smith is surviving on the top level of disability benefit, has had a new hip and both his knees and an elbow are made of plastic and is often wheelchairbound with excrutiatingly painful arthritis.
On the other hand Kevin Gallen seems ostensibly fit & painfree.
Treatment,technology and rehabilation have all moved on & he will get the best treatment possible.
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Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please. |
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| Faurlin on 19:32 - Nov 4 with 1564 views | newgolddream |
| Faurlin on 13:44 - Nov 4 by londonscottish |
Club has just sent out update; ACL
Poor guy. |
Very disappointing news. Best wishes AF for a full recovery. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 20:05 - Nov 4 with 1496 views | Gloucs_R |
Personally I think TF means by "looking after him" is probably medically and giving him another shot when he is fit again. 12 months = £780k. That a lot of dough for someone who may never play again. Lessons should be learnt and money should be saved where we can. Yes, we have stupid earning players still on the books but you have to look forwards and not backwards.
Whatever happens, I wish Mr Faurlin a speedy recovery. | |
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| Faurlin on 20:55 - Nov 4 with 1413 views | gigiisourgod |
| Faurlin on 20:05 - Nov 4 by Gloucs_R |
Personally I think TF means by "looking after him" is probably medically and giving him another shot when he is fit again. 12 months = £780k. That a lot of dough for someone who may never play again. Lessons should be learnt and money should be saved where we can. Yes, we have stupid earning players still on the books but you have to look forwards and not backwards.
Whatever happens, I wish Mr Faurlin a speedy recovery. |
Get well soon Ale.
You will be sorely missed. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 21:09 - Nov 4 with 1385 views | qprmick |
I would hope that all pro footballers would have income protection insurance, or are they too prone to career ending injuries. If that is the case, assisting him with coaching badges etc would extend his life in football.
Good luck Ale, may you come back bigger and stronger. [Post edited 4 Nov 2013 23:46]
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| Faurlin on 21:30 - Nov 4 with 1349 views | HollowayRanger |
give him a two year contract but on a lesser wage say £7-10,000 a week with improvesments once he has proved his fitness
i still remember the way macca was shown the door after all those years of service then finally got back in with waddock only to be shown door again
theres very little love in football when it comes to money
even £10,000 a week would add up to over half a million a season
I we are promoted we could easily take the gamble on him but if we dont go up i can see us needed to make serious cuts
glad its his other leg ,if same one i would really fear that he was finished but he's cme back strong and can now come back stronger! |  |
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| Faurlin on 23:00 - Nov 4 with 1274 views | TW_R |
| Faurlin on 21:09 - Nov 4 by qprmick |
I would hope that all pro footballers would have income protection insurance, or are they too prone to career ending injuries. If that is the case, assisting him with coaching badges etc would extend his life in football.
Good luck Ale, may you come back bigger and stronger. [Post edited 4 Nov 2013 23:46]
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I think I remember an interview with Tony Roberts that when he retired because of a finger injury he got a 100 grand pay-out. But when he solved the problem by using a splint in his glove, he decided to start playing professionally again and had to pay the insurance money back.
I would be very suprised if there is a footballer in the Championship who doesn't have this kind of insurance. | | | |
| Faurlin on 23:02 - Nov 4 with 1272 views | TW_R |
| Faurlin on 21:30 - Nov 4 by HollowayRanger |
give him a two year contract but on a lesser wage say £7-10,000 a week with improvesments once he has proved his fitness
i still remember the way macca was shown the door after all those years of service then finally got back in with waddock only to be shown door again
theres very little love in football when it comes to money
even £10,000 a week would add up to over half a million a season
I we are promoted we could easily take the gamble on him but if we dont go up i can see us needed to make serious cuts
glad its his other leg ,if same one i would really fear that he was finished but he's cme back strong and can now come back stronger! |
So if it was your money you'd give away a million quid on a player that may never play again!? Quite bizarre. | | | |
| Faurlin on 23:37 - Nov 4 with 1251 views | OnlyHereForTheNiko |
Can't pretend that I know too much about the player or his history with your club, but I feel for him and his family/friends, who will have the job of taking care of him & keeping his spirits up over the next few months.
It's hard to imagine how much disruption an injury like this will cause. From a physical point of view, he won't be able to drive himself anywhere or enjoy a bit of rough & tumble with his kids. And mentally, it's going to be a really tough time, worrying: a) will he make a 100% recovery?; b) will he still have a club to play for and c) if not, what does he do next?
I wish him a speedy & full recovery and the mental strength to cope with whatever the future may hold. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 23:40 - Nov 4 with 2431 views | HollowayRanger |
| Faurlin on 23:02 - Nov 4 by TW_R |
So if it was your money you'd give away a million quid on a player that may never play again!? Quite bizarre. |
as i said
If we are promoted we could easily take the gamble on him but if we dont go up i can see us needed to make serious cuts
BUT if up to me then no new contract as not worth the gamble
Hope he proves me wrong as the guy gives his all and doesnt deserve this pain | |
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