| Remy arrested? on 11:55 - May 16 with 2177 views | QPR_John |
| Remy arrested? on 11:51 - May 16 by TearsOfaClown |
" I can't see a club spending £8m on a player who could go to jail."
other than us!
www.webuyanyKunt.com |
"sorry - you are right - and I am not being sarky. Could light of day and all that makes me change my post. "
Well that quickly passed. |  | |  |
| Remy arrested? on 11:57 - May 16 with 2162 views | daveB |
We won't get 8million for him but some idiot will buy him |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 12:01 - May 16 with 2152 views | BasingstokeR |
If we can't get the release clause, and he's found guilty then we should probably use the Mutu precedent. |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 12:14 - May 16 with 2122 views | Rangersw12 |
So he's bailed to September what are people's opinion on what the club should do
1 : Let him carry on as normal innocent till proven guilty ?
2 : Suspend him until investigations have been concluded ?
For me he has to be suspended as him playing would shame the club | | | |
| Remy arrested? on 12:22 - May 16 with 2089 views | FFE |
| Remy arrested? on 12:14 - May 16 by Rangersw12 |
So he's bailed to September what are people's opinion on what the club should do
1 : Let him carry on as normal innocent till proven guilty ?
2 : Suspend him until investigations have been concluded ?
For me he has to be suspended as him playing would shame the club |
Why would it shame the club?
Has he been found guilty? No. |  |
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| Remy arrested? on 12:24 - May 16 with 2081 views | DaBurgh |
| Remy arrested? on 12:22 - May 16 by FFE |
Why would it shame the club?
Has he been found guilty? No. |
well if he did start the season with us I don't suppose his head would be in a very good place with a rape trial pending. Diakite's brain went walkabout with his unknown problems, Cisse did the same with his divorce. What would a pending rape trial do to Remy?
Other teams supporters will also have a field day. Not good. |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 12:41 - May 16 with 2027 views | Juzzie |
| Remy arrested? on 11:53 - May 16 by QPR_John |
I think he is destined to leave the club now even if acquitted. After all mud sticks and even posters on this site are suggesting he is guilty so what will fans of other clubs make of it. |
another football forum I vist (open to all fans rather than club specific) the range of opinions are very similar to on here. No one is slagging off QPR though. |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 13:12 - May 16 with 1961 views | Cliff |
It is difficult to know what the right response is for the club whilst we are in limbo. As I understand it he has not been charged yet but is merely under investigation after allegations have been made. The police now have until he is due back in September (or so I read in another post) to investigate and gather evidence, the CPS will then decide whether the evidence suggests a crime has been committed AND whether there is a realistic chance of proving guilt, only then will he be charged.
For Sunday the choice is obvious - "rest" him. If he is still with us when, and if, any charges are laid at his feet then suspension is probably the best option. The problem is what to do if he is still with us between the start of next season and the CPS decision. |  | | |
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| Remy arrested? on 13:16 - May 16 with 1951 views | DaBurgh |
| Remy arrested? on 13:12 - May 16 by Cliff |
It is difficult to know what the right response is for the club whilst we are in limbo. As I understand it he has not been charged yet but is merely under investigation after allegations have been made. The police now have until he is due back in September (or so I read in another post) to investigate and gather evidence, the CPS will then decide whether the evidence suggests a crime has been committed AND whether there is a realistic chance of proving guilt, only then will he be charged.
For Sunday the choice is obvious - "rest" him. If he is still with us when, and if, any charges are laid at his feet then suspension is probably the best option. The problem is what to do if he is still with us between the start of next season and the CPS decision. |
I'm not that familiar with the case but didn't RVP hold his regular place with Arsenal when the investigation was being held? | | | |
| Remy arrested? on 13:18 - May 16 with 1947 views | QPRDave |
| Remy arrested? on 22:39 - May 15 by CiderwithRsie |
Sorry Dave, should have replied earlier:
One victim was enough to bring a prosecution and *might* have led to a conviction. But Hall initially denied everything and it might easily have been one word against another. He changed his plea to guilty because dozens of victims came forward and the claim that all of them were malicious liars wouldn't stand up. But none of the other victims had even come forward until Hall was publicly named because they didn't think they would be believed.
If a man is a serial predator - and the Hall and Saville cases show they exist - then the number of victims *does* matter; its part of the pattern of behaviour and it also affects the severity of the sentence. |
Yeah i see........yeah you have a point there. |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 13:20 - May 16 with 1933 views | TheBlob |
| Remy arrested? on 13:12 - May 16 by Cliff |
It is difficult to know what the right response is for the club whilst we are in limbo. As I understand it he has not been charged yet but is merely under investigation after allegations have been made. The police now have until he is due back in September (or so I read in another post) to investigate and gather evidence, the CPS will then decide whether the evidence suggests a crime has been committed AND whether there is a realistic chance of proving guilt, only then will he be charged.
For Sunday the choice is obvious - "rest" him. If he is still with us when, and if, any charges are laid at his feet then suspension is probably the best option. The problem is what to do if he is still with us between the start of next season and the CPS decision. |
Some sort of loan deal maybe? |  |
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| Remy arrested? on 13:33 - May 16 with 1906 views | PinnerPaul |
| Remy arrested? on 11:40 - May 16 by Northernr |
I can't see bail conditions allowing him to move abroad, and I can't see a club spending £8m on a player who could go to jail. |
Exactly - I like a bet myself but................ | | | |
| Remy arrested? on 13:37 - May 16 with 1884 views | N12Hoop |
| Remy arrested? on 13:20 - May 16 by TheBlob |
Some sort of loan deal maybe? |
Can't see it myself. Too much of a gamble for another club. Until or unless he is charged he should start next season for us (if in right frame of mind). Wouldn't play him this weekend though. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Remy arrested? on 13:38 - May 16 with 1877 views | HollowayRanger |
| Remy arrested? on 11:52 - May 16 by Juzzie |
Whether Holloway is making it up or not, I did once end up sharing a bed with a drunk sleeping woman who was just in her knickers (it was a very hot June evening back in '94). I was pretty wasted myself and at no point did it ever occur to me to do anything other than turn over and go to sleep.
The bizzarre thing is that a few weeks later on my birthday and in front of my friends she loudly said "yeah... and you were in bed with me and you did nothing about it. What kind of man do you call yourself?!"
I was flabbergasted as were my friends, they were repulsed by what she said. I replied immediatley "the kind of man that doesn't rape women in their sleep".
I chose not to see her or have any contact with her after that then a few years later we bumped into each other. I brought back that occurance and she was very apologetic and realised how bad she was for saying that. She was going through a rough patch in her life.
I said that's she's just bloody lucky it was me and not someone who might have done something that night. She agreed and said she was very grateful I behaved properly.
I've never seen her since.
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wasnt called della was she? 
i swear i DONT MAKE UP ANYTHING!
anyone think im proud of my plastic cup expolits is mad
if i were happliy married 2.4 kids i would be doing this but as im not i want some insurance that my life counted for something ,i dont want to die young/old for nothing and to me kids is the one sure far way as leaving a legacy
not at work as been dentists having two new peg crowns measured up,teeth flaming sore after that,and yes i REALLY should write a book i think my expolits are second only to harry flashman
BUT MINE ARE REAL!
Aint had a threesome yet mind so plenty still to do!  |  |
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| Remy arrested? on 13:43 - May 16 with 1871 views | DaBurgh |
| Remy arrested? on 13:38 - May 16 by HollowayRanger |
wasnt called della was she?
i swear i DONT MAKE UP ANYTHING!
anyone think im proud of my plastic cup expolits is mad
if i were happliy married 2.4 kids i would be doing this but as im not i want some insurance that my life counted for something ,i dont want to die young/old for nothing and to me kids is the one sure far way as leaving a legacy
not at work as been dentists having two new peg crowns measured up,teeth flaming sore after that,and yes i REALLY should write a book i think my expolits are second only to harry flashman
BUT MINE ARE REAL!
Aint had a threesome yet mind so plenty still to do! |
Tupperware are doing a special buy one beaker get another free...so the threesome may still be on!
(Sorry Holloway, but sometimes you just make it too easy!)  | | | |
| Remy arrested? on 13:47 - May 16 with 1855 views | TheBlob |
| Remy arrested? on 13:38 - May 16 by HollowayRanger |
wasnt called della was she?
i swear i DONT MAKE UP ANYTHING!
anyone think im proud of my plastic cup expolits is mad
if i were happliy married 2.4 kids i would be doing this but as im not i want some insurance that my life counted for something ,i dont want to die young/old for nothing and to me kids is the one sure far way as leaving a legacy
not at work as been dentists having two new peg crowns measured up,teeth flaming sore after that,and yes i REALLY should write a book i think my expolits are second only to harry flashman
BUT MINE ARE REAL!
Aint had a threesome yet mind so plenty still to do! |
Yours are real?
Nothing to do with nitrous oxide at the dentist's then? | |
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| Remy arrested? on 14:27 - May 16 with 1798 views | DylanP |
If Remy is still with us at the start of next season, and if he still hasn't been charged with a crime, then he should play if the manager judges that he is good enought to warrant a spot on the tream. The club should make a statement that they take the allegations very seriously but that a person is innocent until proven guilty and therefore he will be available to play at the manager's discretion.
None of us know what happened. And we shouldn't pretend we do. And we should not pre-judge the legal system.
I am not making light of rape in any way. But we simply do not know what happened. It is wrong to ruin a man's life over media reports that may or may not turn out to be true. We have a legal system specifically to sort out these sorts of issues. I realize that the odds are often stacked against a rape victim, but that is a societal issue that is bigger than this case and this club.
There are many possibilities, including guilt and innocence. Until the legal system has had a chance to weigh in one way of the other, it would be wrong to assume anything. I conceed that it would be hard to cheer an accused rapist, especially if he turns out to be guilty. But the same is true the other way -- if he turns out to be innocent, then a great injustice would have been done if we had treated him as though he was guilty. We don't need to feature or particularly celebrate him during the interim period, but we shouldn't shun him either. |  |
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| Remy arrested? on 16:27 - May 16 with 1655 views | HollowayRanger |
| Remy arrested? on 13:47 - May 16 by TheBlob |
Yours are real?
Nothing to do with nitrous oxide at the dentist's then? |
i tell you something my dentist really scares me two weeks ago for the check up she had almost finished when she said
oh oh thats a game changer
then today she says the bleeding wont stop so asks for some (chemical) from the nurse to stop the bleeding! 
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| Remy arrested? on 17:52 - May 16 with 1587 views | Juzzie |
No and maybe.
We'd been drinking in pubs all day, it was the day of the Euro '96 Final, which I never got to watch!
We got back to her place in the evening and had some food. She had been quite flirty as the evening wore on. We went into her room and basically I thought my luck was in as she stripped down to her undies. I went to the toilet, came back and she was sound asleep. She had literally passed out.
I shook her gently to see if she was actually awake but no, completely out for the count.
"damn!" I thought. Jumped in and went to sleep myself.
It was her reaction a couple of weeks later that staggered me.
edit: Euro 96, not Euro 94!
[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Remy arrested? on 18:55 - May 16 with 1527 views | baz_qpr |
Unless the issue is dropped and the police state no further action, or evidence comes to light that leads to an immediate charge, we are talking that he will be with us for the first half of the season minimum, he wont be aloud to go abroad, any trial would be 3- 6 months after charge and you can bet your life someone will be desperate enough in January to pay the release clause |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 18:58 - May 16 with 1523 views | EalingRanger |
Do people want him to play with us next season? Will be interesting to see if 'Arry makes any comment on this in tomorrow's presser, probably won't be able to for legal reasons right? |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 19:17 - May 16 with 1510 views | timcocking |
| Remy arrested? on 23:00 - May 15 by connell10 |
i think everyone should shut the fock up until we know more details, thats what im doing! |
Sensible comment.
I'm fearing the worst though. |  | | |
| Remy arrested? on 20:27 - May 16 with 2147 views | FredManRave |
| Remy arrested? on 14:27 - May 16 by DylanP |
If Remy is still with us at the start of next season, and if he still hasn't been charged with a crime, then he should play if the manager judges that he is good enought to warrant a spot on the tream. The club should make a statement that they take the allegations very seriously but that a person is innocent until proven guilty and therefore he will be available to play at the manager's discretion.
None of us know what happened. And we shouldn't pretend we do. And we should not pre-judge the legal system.
I am not making light of rape in any way. But we simply do not know what happened. It is wrong to ruin a man's life over media reports that may or may not turn out to be true. We have a legal system specifically to sort out these sorts of issues. I realize that the odds are often stacked against a rape victim, but that is a societal issue that is bigger than this case and this club.
There are many possibilities, including guilt and innocence. Until the legal system has had a chance to weigh in one way of the other, it would be wrong to assume anything. I conceed that it would be hard to cheer an accused rapist, especially if he turns out to be guilty. But the same is true the other way -- if he turns out to be innocent, then a great injustice would have been done if we had treated him as though he was guilty. We don't need to feature or particularly celebrate him during the interim period, but we shouldn't shun him either. |
Agree with all of the above. It really shouldn't take 4 months to obtain all the necesary evidence and decide if there is a case to answer but it will it we'll have to put up with alot of rubbish being wirtten about it all until then.
The best summary I've read so far on this whole sorry state of affairs is;
"Whoever the guilty & innocent parties are in this, I hope they get the justice they deserve".
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| Remy arrested? on 08:05 - May 17 with 1966 views | Red_Ranger |
| Remy arrested? on 14:27 - May 16 by DylanP |
If Remy is still with us at the start of next season, and if he still hasn't been charged with a crime, then he should play if the manager judges that he is good enought to warrant a spot on the tream. The club should make a statement that they take the allegations very seriously but that a person is innocent until proven guilty and therefore he will be available to play at the manager's discretion.
None of us know what happened. And we shouldn't pretend we do. And we should not pre-judge the legal system.
I am not making light of rape in any way. But we simply do not know what happened. It is wrong to ruin a man's life over media reports that may or may not turn out to be true. We have a legal system specifically to sort out these sorts of issues. I realize that the odds are often stacked against a rape victim, but that is a societal issue that is bigger than this case and this club.
There are many possibilities, including guilt and innocence. Until the legal system has had a chance to weigh in one way of the other, it would be wrong to assume anything. I conceed that it would be hard to cheer an accused rapist, especially if he turns out to be guilty. But the same is true the other way -- if he turns out to be innocent, then a great injustice would have been done if we had treated him as though he was guilty. We don't need to feature or particularly celebrate him during the interim period, but we shouldn't shun him either. |
Good comment. Impending court case will however effect performance on the pitch, I suspect. | | | |
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