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Clear divide tonight 19:48 - Jan 2 with 6541 views

Those who went to the match and are very angry with what we saw from the officials and the living god Lamberts yellow marvels.

And those who didn't and just want to sack Warnock and hand Barton.

RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat

Clear divide tonight on 21:54 - Jan 2 with 977 views

Gloucs_R

I want Warnock to stay.......

I want Warnock to stop being so negative against teams we can beat.....

I want Warnock to play 2 up front....

Thats all I want!

Poll:

Are we staying up?

Clear divide tonight on 23:01 - Jan 2 with 961 views

BazWoT

Clear divide tonight on 21:54 - Jan 2 by Gloucs_R
I want Warnock to stay....... I want Warnock to stop being so negative against teams we can beat..... I want Warnock to play 2 up front.... Thats all I want!

I want to go to more games but struggle to get tickets for sellouts.

I struggle to get tickets for away games due to a lack of points because I can't get tickets for games I don't have the points.

I get coated for not being at games.

Then I acquire tickets for a game and get coated for having tickets.

When I go to a game I see less anyway as i'm so busy screaming my nut off so there's no actual benfit for me in what I see other than "being there".

C'est la vie.

I don't want Colin sacked either.

WE R PREMIER LEAGUE, SAY!!!

Clear divide tonight on 23:07 - Jan 2 with 953 views

bosh67

Today we were done by Norwich players play acting and inept officials. I can't fault the effort of the team. I do think we need to play two strikers up front, especially at home, HH was isolated at times even before the sending off, although he did spend most of that time being kicked or wrestled to the floor, which as the ref and SAR linesman saw it was fine every time. In fact he even got booked for thinking about a tackle.

I've seen things over the years but I haven't thought a game's been fixed or nobbled by officials until today. They were disgraceful, bar the ERS side lino, who, on his own had an okay game.

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Clear divide tonight on 23:10 - Jan 2 with 945 views

stansleftfoot

Clear divide tonight on 23:01 - Jan 2 by BazWoT

I thought the ref was attempting to allow to progress without minor fouls during what could have been a good open game. The play was changing and one side began to dominate possession and then the other came into the game.
What he neglected to do was to talk to the protagonists of the incidents.
Ultimately Norwich saw this as a weakness....then it goes tits up.
Shame good game spoilt!!!

Clear divide tonight on 23:50 - Jan 2 with 920 views

danehoop

Clear divide tonight on 21:54 - Jan 2 by Gloucs_R
I want Warnock to stay....... I want Warnock to stop being so negative against teams we can beat..... I want Warnock to play 2 up front.... Thats all I want!

I went today. I agree with this!

Never knowingly understood

Clear divide tonight on 00:05 - Jan 3 with 902 views

carlosthebulb

Clear divide tonight on 19:50 - Jan 2 by Northernr
Indeed. And of those who want to replace Warnock, not one of them can name a suitable replacement.

Well if you were to push me I'd go for Nigel Adkins!

Truth is I don't want to replace warnock, but It drives me potty to see us start games with just one bloody striker all the time. Neil, it's simple, we need goals and the system you are using only gets us so far. Don't know if 442 is the answer but surely we can try it once in a while and accommodate a proper partner for hh especially in home matches against the likes of Norwich and Sunderland?

Clear divide tonight on 00:11 - Jan 3 with 898 views

WatfordR

Clear divide tonight on 00:05 - Jan 3 by carlosthebulb

Pretty much how I feel. Though as I'm too skint to go to actually watch games these days, I'm not sure I'm allowed to say.

Clear divide tonight on 00:32 - Jan 3 with 878 views

Brightonhoop

That's the typical shoite on here in recent times. I'm 2000 miles away and dont Warnock sacked or Barton handed.
Explain what you mean and why you are an unt with a silent c?

Clear divide tonight on 00:38 - Jan 3 with 864 views

Brightonhoop

Clear divide tonight on 23:01 - Jan 2 by BazWoT

Lame. At best.

Come back when you've done 2 seasons, no mortgage, no kids, and no excuses. And bring yer clappy hands a prawn sandwitch....ffs. Dont forget last years replica shirt.

Clear divide tonight on 04:18 - Jan 3 with 822 views

smegma

Clear divide tonight on 19:56 - Jan 2 by baz_qpr
Not that I want to replace Warnock but I'd take someone with the experience of Mark Hughes. Actually IMHO we need a fresh face in the backroom (not replacement but additional) someone who can work on set pieces! Plus we must strengthen the spine centre half, centre mid and centre forward, all either proven or on the way up. Too many 30+ in the squad as it is.

So you DO want NW replaced.

Clear divide tonight on 08:37 - Jan 3 with 773 views

sexton

Clear divide tonight on 00:05 - Jan 3 by carlosthebulb

It's all very well calling for 2 up front, but in truth we don't have 2 good enough strikers.

HH and Bothroyd together? I don't think so, and although I reserve judgement on DJ I haven't seen enough to be convinced.

We need more than just Macheda, that's for sure.

Clear divide tonight on 08:47 - Jan 3 with 765 views

baz_qpr

Clear divide tonight on 04:18 - Jan 3 by smegma
So you DO want NW replaced.

reading not a strong point then. I suggest you re read what I said

Clear divide tonight on 08:58 - Jan 3 with 758 views

adhoc_qpr

I don't want Warnock sacked, but equally i'm not blind to his faults and it could come to that if he can't turn things around swiftly.

Finding a quality, available replacement manager would be very tricky but not impossible. Mark Hughes seems to be being dismissed by some but his managerial record stands up to scrutiny.

Does anyone think that if the first thing TF had done on taking over was sack Warnock and replace him with Lambert, we would be slightly higher up the table now?

Clear divide tonight on 09:08 - Jan 3 with 741 views

hoopstilidie

Well I spent most of yesterday evening defending Barton against what I thought was a shocking decision and equally I was giving short shrift to those calling for Warnock`s head. I didn`t go to the game though, just watched it on the net so my apologies to the OP, in order to comply with his "clear divide" (in other words "you aren`t allowed to comment as you didn`t go") I shall have to call for Warnock`s sacking and berate Barton at every opportunity. Is that right?

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Clear divide tonight on 09:37 - Jan 3 with 726 views

ElHoop

Well I was there and wish that i hadn't been. Very depressing day.

Just about everything and everyone annoyed me.

The sending off - I was at the game and didn't see what happened and didn't even know why he was sent off until I texted my brother who was watching the game on a live feed at home. How is it that i can be at a game and know less about what is going on than someone watching illegally at home? Who's paying for this show? No replay, no explanation, no nothing - if you were actually at the game.

I don't like Norwich, this isn't the first time that we've had someone sent off against them. You can be sure that their tactical planning involves who and how they're going to end up a man up. Scum. Having said that, Graham Poll on 5 live this morning was adamant tha tthe ref got it wrong, and they also reckoned that Holt was pleading for Barton to not get a red card. Is that true? Maybe those who weren't at the game can help out.

As for QPR's performance, I think that we should have got a draw even with ten men. Ferdinand could hardly walk - why wasn't he taken off? We effectively had nine men, one of who was a tired Taarabt. I just don't get it. We should have won at swansea, where we were set up to win the game but didn't really go for the jugular. Had we won there, a draw against Norwich would have been Ok in the circumstances. We aren't getting the points when they are for the taking. Sunderland was the same.

I'm afraid there's a 'victimaphobia' or something like that invading Warnock's head. We should be winning games regardless of bad fortune.

A thoroughly depressing afternoon all round.

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Clear divide tonight on 10:18 - Jan 3 with 708 views

WestbourneR

I go to every home game and a fair few away.

I would never ever boo a Rangers player. I think getting on Bothroyd's back is ridiculous - he scored two in a row a few back including a great header against Man City and now everybody thinks he terrible. Mackie scores two and everybody loves him.

But we've been pretty rubbish for a while and Warnock has no idea how to get a team playing creative possession football. Percentage football doesn't work in the Prem and for that reason we may well go down.

I don't think it's 'honourable' to be loyal to the point you get relegated. Warnock is not up to it. Look at it from the outside - would you be pleased if Blackburn kept Kean? I say yeah cos they'll go down with him - and i'd say it's the same vice versa.

Poll:

Should JFH get the sack?

Clear divide tonight on 10:28 - Jan 3 with 702 views

ElHoop

I think that i've lost a bit of faith in Warnock at the moment. More importantly, I get the feeling that he's lost a bit of faith in himself. I couldn't understand why Ferdinand didn't go off when it was 1-1. We scored down the left side but then Mackie goes off and SWP goes up the right. OK the sending off messed up our shape, but Norwich, at 1-1, made three subs and took a new shape and kept to it and it worked. At the end we had no obvious shape at all, just blokes.

Clear divide tonight on 11:02 - Jan 3 with 682 views

PhilmyRs

Clear divide tonight on 10:28 - Jan 3 by ElHoop

Faith is the key word, your losing yours, I’m maintaining mine.

I can see Warnock isn’t perfect. Yesterday Lambert showed that he’s got a great chance of being a successful Manager. The game was edging our way, we seemed — even with 10 men — that we were up for it. Lambert sensed this too and made a triple substitution. The end result, the game changed and Morrison smashed in the winner. There have been times this season Warnock has not shown such courage with his tactical changes.

In Warnock’s own words ‘we would take some heavy beatings this season’. When we have been comfortably outplayed — Fulham and Spuds away — I think he’s been a little quick to ‘panic’. Had he preserved with the team and formation we had against Villa and Newcastle, with the odd tweak here and there, I think points wise we would be better off than we are now. His reluctance to call on Adel a few weeks back (particularly at home) and now his apparent reluctance to play SWP in his more dangerous position is a little worrying. I’m not against SWP roaming here and there, but I would like to see him spend the majority of the game on the Right, not the left or centre. The interchange he had going on with Adel against Newcastle is what I want to see again.

Having said all the above, this doesn’t mean Warnock doesn’t deserve more time, he does. He’s earned it. Like players, Managers take time to get things right, some adjust quicker than others. I fully believe Neil will bring in some added quality in the coming days and will start to assemble the best team available. If given time and support, he will keep us in the division, which after all, was our number one priority at the start of it.

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Clear divide tonight on 11:07 - Jan 3 with 674 views

ElHoop

I'm not saying that Warnock should go, but the warning signs have been there for a few games now. We have to win games, and games that we could have won have seen dropped points. It all looks a little too 'unsophisticated' at the moment. We need to use the two weeks away from the PL for a bit of a rethink. New players alone won't save us.

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Clear divide tonight on 11:14 - Jan 3 with 666 views

headhoops

Keep Warnock but let him watch Mike Bassett England Manager - the bit where he does the eulogy that culminates in "today engalnd will play 4 -4 fuc£ing 2".

Was at Arse and over the two games SWP is without doubt a bigger threat than Mackie. As for Barton you reap what you sow. His so called hard man image does him no favours and putting his forehead anywhere near an opponent has red card stamped all over it. He's got to learn, I fear he never will.

Faurlin was immense yet again, up and down like a whore's knickers.

Pilkingtons shot was one of those, always against us efforts (Cahill eg) and the winner came after we had battered them with 10 men for the entire second half.

As for Bradley Johnson, the FA need to adopt a new law - blatant play acting, he should be ashamed but I suspect with 3 points he feels vindicated in his actions.

There is far too much conning the officials who let's face it are pretty average in the first place.

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Remy - can he play in the playoffs - who's opening post is the best?

Clear divide tonight on 11:28 - Jan 3 with 649 views

daveB

i'm not sure how anyone can say we were negative yesterday, we had Mackie, Taarabt, Helguson and Barton all pushing on. When down to 10 men he put SWP on and then another two strikers after that. We went for the game, had all the chances and still go beat.

I think people should just lay off Warnock, this is a tough league and if he gets things right in the transfer market this month then we'll stay up imo.

As for Macheda getting stick already only at QPR could that happen, he was getting slated before he had even signed. We could sign messi and some people would still moan about it.

Clear divide tonight on 11:37 - Jan 3 with 635 views

ElHoop

I wouldn't say that we were negative yesterday and at 1-0 we looked decent.

At 1-0 we shouldn't have lost the game, even with 10 men.

I'd have preferred more positivity at Swansea i suppose, and a little negativity yesterday when Ferdinand was so obviously struggling. We could have had 4 points from the 2 games, which would make things look totally different for us.

Clear divide tonight on 11:41 - Jan 3 with 625 views

westberksr

Clear divide tonight on 11:28 - Jan 3 by daveB

Messi's too short to play the loan striker role

Clear divide tonight on 11:48 - Jan 3 with 616 views

adhoc_qpr

2 from the last 24 points can't all be down to bad luck and referees decisions - the manager and the players have to take the lions share of the blame.

If we replicate that form over the next 8 games I have no doubt we will be rock bottom of the table and a cert to go down.

Even if we pick up the same points we did in the corresponding fixtures against the same oppo we'd only get 9 points which could easily see us in the bottom 3 also.

What's so annoying is that for 15 minute spells here and there we look like a really good team, but apparently not good enough to really compete.

Clear divide tonight on 12:00 - Jan 3 with 606 views

jonno

Clear divide tonight on 11:28 - Jan 3 by daveB

I didn't see too many chances to be honest. How many saves did their keeper have to make? Very few players in the box when the ball was played in tells me that we don't get forward enough from midfield.

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