| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust 17:34 - Nov 30 with 3135 views | QJumpingJack |
An interesting paragraph on how the author already claims a play-off push is beyond us for this season.
That will help ticket sales. |  | | |  |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 15:12 - Dec 4 with 1185 views | swancity |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 14:58 - Dec 4 by Whiterockin |
If the Yanks knew what the were doing we wouldn't have got into the position of Parachute payments. |
Indeed. They were not a good fit for our club for many well documented reasons and history has now shown that to be the case. Jenkins can take the blame. I still can’t believe he got away with it. And not only him. | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 15:30 - Dec 4 with 1163 views | Whiterockin |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 15:12 - Dec 4 by swancity |
Indeed. They were not a good fit for our club for many well documented reasons and history has now shown that to be the case. Jenkins can take the blame. I still can’t believe he got away with it. And not only him. |
I still can't believe that they were trying to promote USA Soccer, Bradley and poor quality players on loan, over the betterment of our club. |  | | |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:52 - Dec 4 with 1081 views | STID2017 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 14:47 - Dec 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Many people including Trust members and supporters envisaged total disaster when the club got relegated. Falling down the league and shutting the academy.
Some predicted that the owners would asset strip and put the club into administration.
Instead they stabilised the club and gave Cooper the tools get into the play off twice. Unfortunately The Danish guy at Brentford club with no parachutes was better than Cooper with the who who's of top English talent. Guehi, Brewster, Gallagher, Gibbs White plus Gyorkeres.
Failure is the norm for football. Success is the exception. Only 12.5% can be promoted.
Levien and co have written off £69m and handed the club over to good people who have £20m to invest. They did not sell for £20m with no money to spend.
It is not easy and Levien has accepted he is not able to do what is needed. Coleman has persuaded him to hand over the reigns.
The "good riddance" posts from fans is inappropriate. The fans group have turned themselves fro big players into irrelevance.
In the Toshack era Swansea could not even sellout the Vetch for some first division games. 14,000.
If Levien has a bad senses of humour and a vindictive streak he would have handed over the club to the Trust. |
It is unbelievable that you argue against the simple facts that when they took over we had recently won a major trophy for the first time ever, more than held our own in what most accept is the best league in the world quality wise and were talking about increasing the capacity to allow those who could not at that time get a ticket to do so.
The interest in the club was international with followers from many countries watching us physically or via the media.
As I stated earlier, we are now struggling against apathy to get fans to attend.
The fact that they paid an alleged £100 million and according to you gave it away for £20 million says everything about how "succesful" they were.
The fact is that they came and saw what they thought was a golden egg to allow them to make a fortune when in fact it was just a plain old chicken egg.
As mentioned elsewhere, their attempts to bring in an inept manager just because he was American, rather than based on his talent, says everything about their lack of knowledge about the game and their investment. |  |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 13:31 - Dec 5 with 1017 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:52 - Dec 4 by STID2017 |
It is unbelievable that you argue against the simple facts that when they took over we had recently won a major trophy for the first time ever, more than held our own in what most accept is the best league in the world quality wise and were talking about increasing the capacity to allow those who could not at that time get a ticket to do so.
The interest in the club was international with followers from many countries watching us physically or via the media.
As I stated earlier, we are now struggling against apathy to get fans to attend.
The fact that they paid an alleged £100 million and according to you gave it away for £20 million says everything about how "succesful" they were.
The fact is that they came and saw what they thought was a golden egg to allow them to make a fortune when in fact it was just a plain old chicken egg.
As mentioned elsewhere, their attempts to bring in an inept manager just because he was American, rather than based on his talent, says everything about their lack of knowledge about the game and their investment. |
You do not even understand the figures be cause you are careless and do not digest facts. The Americans spent £69m to buy a controlling interest. £1m per 1%. The club itself was valued at £100m but £21m of that was owned by the Trust.
The Americans have not sold the club for £20m but £3k. Coleman s team have £20m to invest precisely because Levien took the hit for them.
These facts are lost because your understanding is poor.
"Yanks good riddance" is easier for a limited intellect. It sounds a bit arrogant perhaps? The world is a tough place. If people are not sure take advice from people you trust.
Silverstein was as straight as an arrow as far as I could see. He came over and sorted out a Welsh mess. He is visible. The people of the 10% do not even show up for forums they promoted. The fourth guy last time was the commercial fellow. |  |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 13:49 - Dec 5 with 1000 views | onehunglow |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:52 - Dec 4 by STID2017 |
It is unbelievable that you argue against the simple facts that when they took over we had recently won a major trophy for the first time ever, more than held our own in what most accept is the best league in the world quality wise and were talking about increasing the capacity to allow those who could not at that time get a ticket to do so.
The interest in the club was international with followers from many countries watching us physically or via the media.
As I stated earlier, we are now struggling against apathy to get fans to attend.
The fact that they paid an alleged £100 million and according to you gave it away for £20 million says everything about how "succesful" they were.
The fact is that they came and saw what they thought was a golden egg to allow them to make a fortune when in fact it was just a plain old chicken egg.
As mentioned elsewhere, their attempts to bring in an inept manager just because he was American, rather than based on his talent, says everything about their lack of knowledge about the game and their investment. |
Facts eh
Let me count the ways | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 13:39 - Dec 6 with 887 views | KeithHaynes |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 00:01 - Dec 4 by STID2017 |
" Levien and co were good owners who failed "
Surely that is an oxymoron ?
If they failed ( which you admit yourself by that statement) then they were bad for the club.
Good owners succeed and grow the club.
Take it to the Next Level if you will.
Had they done that, then the club would have attained a top four EPL position maybe and an increase in capacity of the stadium to accommodate the extra crowd that would naturally follow.
Instead we have a team that is treading water one division below where they were when they took over and apathy which led to failure to sell out a game against Leeds and approx 5k empty seats ( although it looked like more empty seats than that ) on Saturday
Hardly good owners.
What have they actually achieved to warrant your calling them good owners ? |
In response to the claim that the 20 million came from Levien and Co that is incorrect. From what we know it came from new investment. |  |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:34 - Dec 6 with 812 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 13:39 - Dec 6 by KeithHaynes |
In response to the claim that the 20 million came from Levien and Co that is incorrect. From what we know it came from new investment. |
The way I see it the club has assets of at least £30m but is making a loss. Had Coleman and Co been quoted that number there would be no sale.
Coleman and Co bought it for a low cost and presumably paid off some outstanding sebts.
Levien has done them and the club a big favour and will reportedly get £40m back only if things go very well. He has given Coleman and Co the best chance by selling well below the market value.
It seems like a waste of time explaining this to the forum and people on Facebook as they gave a surprisingly weak grasp on figures. The "good riddance Yanks" response is reflex and not based on consideration of the numbers.
Let's face facts no one will get credit for thanking Levien for this kind gesture. Only people like me who are a lightening rod for the majority put downs and disdain.
It is the down side of having principles. The upside was the POTY 2023 title which has given a lot of validation. [Post edited 8 Dec 22:22]
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:51 - Dec 6 with 779 views | QJumpingJack |
why do you continue to use the Y word in relation to the ownership group?
I am not sure Jason, Steve, Jake or Andy appreciate the term being constantly used. | | | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:55 - Dec 6 with 777 views | Whiterockin |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:34 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The way I see it the club has assets of at least £30m but is making a loss. Had Coleman and Co been quoted that number there would be no sale.
Coleman and Co bought it for a low cost and presumably paid off some outstanding sebts.
Levien has done them and the club a big favour and will reportedly get £40m back only if things go very well. He has given Coleman and Co the best chance by selling well below the market value.
It seems like a waste of time explaining this to the forum and people on Facebook as they gave a surprisingly weak grasp on figures. The "good riddance Yanks" response is reflex and not based on consideration of the numbers.
Let's face facts no one will get credit for thanking Levien for this kind gesture. Only people like me who are a lightening rod for the majority put downs and disdain.
It is the down side of having principles. The upside was the POTY 2023 title which has given a lot of validation. [Post edited 8 Dec 22:22]
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I would say you have an amazingly weak grasp on reality. For 6 months you have refused to accept when explained to you the financial procedures at the club and impending ownership structure change. Then when it happens you claim others have a weak grasp of figures, you really can't make it up.
I will just leave this for you to think about. If the current ownership restructured on any pending arrival in the Premier League, Kaplan and Levien would get what they deserve sweet -- . The majority of Swansea City supporters would love it. Yes I have a very good grasp of business and figures | | | |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:06 - Dec 6 with 737 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:55 - Dec 6 by Whiterockin |
I would say you have an amazingly weak grasp on reality. For 6 months you have refused to accept when explained to you the financial procedures at the club and impending ownership structure change. Then when it happens you claim others have a weak grasp of figures, you really can't make it up.
I will just leave this for you to think about. If the current ownership restructured on any pending arrival in the Premier League, Kaplan and Levien would get what they deserve sweet -- . The majority of Swansea City supporters would love it. Yes I have a very good grasp of business and figures |
With Coleman living in Swansea some people were aware of talks. I do not live in Swansea and was skeptical. I had no inside track.
I am surprised Levien and co sold the club for a very low price. It is an extraordinarily generous deal to the new owners. No one would have expected this generosity to people perceived to have a
vice like grip on spending in recent times.
I am a decent soul and respond to generosity with good grace. Low quality people do not. As I explained there is no motivation for this forum to explain it otherwise in the football zoo other forums would label the forum "Yankee / sell out boot lickers".
I do not worry about what you and Max and other s think..I know before you type a syllable. [Post edited 8 Dec 22:25]
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:19 - Dec 6 with 702 views | Whiterockin |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:06 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
With Coleman living in Swansea some people were aware of talks. I do not live in Swansea and was skeptical. I had no inside track.
I am surprised Levien and co sold the club for a very low price. It is an extraordinarily generous deal to the new owners. No one would have expected this generosity to people perceived to have a
vice like grip on spending in recent times.
I am a decent soul and respond to generosity with good grace. Low quality people do not. As I explained there is no motivation for this forum to explain it otherwise in the football zoo other forums would label the forum "Yankee / sell out boot lickers".
I do not worry about what you and Max and other s think..I know before you type a syllable. [Post edited 8 Dec 22:25]
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I will also add that Coleman was the driving force behind the transition, it was a take it or leave it offer. No generosity by Kaplan and Levien they wanted out and it was the only way they could get it. Has the reason for 3,000 crossed your mind, they were not prepared to put any more money in and it was to cover the costs to tie up lose ends on their part. Basically it was a taking the P payment on Colmans part, he really doesn't like them. | | | |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:19 - Dec 6 with 700 views | KeithHaynes |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:06 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
With Coleman living in Swansea some people were aware of talks. I do not live in Swansea and was skeptical. I had no inside track.
I am surprised Levien and co sold the club for a very low price. It is an extraordinarily generous deal to the new owners. No one would have expected this generosity to people perceived to have a
vice like grip on spending in recent times.
I am a decent soul and respond to generosity with good grace. Low quality people do not. As I explained there is no motivation for this forum to explain it otherwise in the football zoo other forums would label the forum "Yankee / sell out boot lickers".
I do not worry about what you and Max and other s think..I know before you type a syllable. [Post edited 8 Dec 22:25]
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Through hard work and good contacts we had a very good inside track 😉 | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 23:20 - Dec 6 with 631 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:19 - Dec 6 by Whiterockin |
I will also add that Coleman was the driving force behind the transition, it was a take it or leave it offer. No generosity by Kaplan and Levien they wanted out and it was the only way they could get it. Has the reason for 3,000 crossed your mind, they were not prepared to put any more money in and it was to cover the costs to tie up lose ends on their part. Basically it was a taking the P payment on Colmans part, he really doesn't like them. |
They are decent people and before selling to Coleman could have sold Cabango and Darling in the January and Grimes Ronald and Franco as well. Then there were those guys on the academy who would generate a million and no one would gave noticed.
This would have generated perhaps £10m for a leaving present.
They did something similar at Wigan perhaps when Swansea picked up Lowe or Joseph?
I do not expect you to give credit to them. One nameless hapless poster compared them to Petty which showed him up big time. [Post edited 6 Dec 23:22]
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 23:35 - Dec 6 with 618 views | Whiterockin |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 23:20 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They are decent people and before selling to Coleman could have sold Cabango and Darling in the January and Grimes Ronald and Franco as well. Then there were those guys on the academy who would generate a million and no one would gave noticed.
This would have generated perhaps £10m for a leaving present.
They did something similar at Wigan perhaps when Swansea picked up Lowe or Joseph?
I do not expect you to give credit to them. One nameless hapless poster compared them to Petty which showed him up big time. [Post edited 6 Dec 23:22]
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I would say if they sold the players you stupidly suggested, we would be in the relegation zone, Coleman would have walked and they would have had no takers. Administration would have been on the cards. You can give silly scenarios rather than face reality. Kaplan and Levien are gone and the majority by far are happy. You can't change the past only the future, so why bang on about things that are no longer any relevance. [Post edited 6 Dec 23:36]
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 01:08 - Dec 7 with 548 views | STID2017 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 23:20 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They are decent people and before selling to Coleman could have sold Cabango and Darling in the January and Grimes Ronald and Franco as well. Then there were those guys on the academy who would generate a million and no one would gave noticed.
This would have generated perhaps £10m for a leaving present.
They did something similar at Wigan perhaps when Swansea picked up Lowe or Joseph?
I do not expect you to give credit to them. One nameless hapless poster compared them to Petty which showed him up big time. [Post edited 6 Dec 23:22]
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If you are going to criticise posters and call them hapless at least have the guts to name me.
You have called me several things lately.
In return I have criticised your views, but not resorted to calling you hapless, lacking understanding, etc.
This belies your claim to be a fair minded moderate poster | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 11:27 - Dec 7 with 449 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:06 - Dec 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
With Coleman living in Swansea some people were aware of talks. I do not live in Swansea and was skeptical. I had no inside track.
I am surprised Levien and co sold the club for a very low price. It is an extraordinarily generous deal to the new owners. No one would have expected this generosity to people perceived to have a
vice like grip on spending in recent times.
I am a decent soul and respond to generosity with good grace. Low quality people do not. As I explained there is no motivation for this forum to explain it otherwise in the football zoo other forums would label the forum "Yankee / sell out boot lickers".
I do not worry about what you and Max and other s think..I know before you type a syllable. [Post edited 8 Dec 22:25]
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If you were a decent person you wouldn't constantly insult others who have a different opinion.
People wanted Levein etc out because they were bad owners, we welcome the new regime and hope Coleman can turn us around from this downhill slide.
Low quality people are those who constantly deride others, they make things up and present them as facts and ignore genuine facts to pursue their own agendas. They are little better than trolls in fact. Sound like anyone you know? | | | |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 12:04 - Dec 7 with 421 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 01:08 - Dec 7 by STID2017 |
If you are going to criticise posters and call them hapless at least have the guts to name me.
You have called me several things lately.
In return I have criticised your views, but not resorted to calling you hapless, lacking understanding, etc.
This belies your claim to be a fair minded moderate poster |
If you said Levien and co were the new Petty then you truly are clueless. I thought is was Max actually. I do not lack bravery but try to avoid naming individuals.
As I recall you quoted figures that were wrong and I corrected them. No big deal.
I get more stick than anyone and no one agrees with me publicly. Privately they do and I understand this phenomenon. It is a football fan thing.
Levien does the club a big favour by selling the club for £3000. That is 0.01% of its value. They could have had a laugh at the fans who berate them and handed it over to the Trust and that means National league misery like Wrexham and wip rounds for the tax bill.
How do I know this? There is a precedent. Wrexham FC. In the wilderness for 20+ years. [Post edited 7 Dec 13:53]
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 16:28 - Dec 7 with 356 views | STID2017 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 12:04 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If you said Levien and co were the new Petty then you truly are clueless. I thought is was Max actually. I do not lack bravery but try to avoid naming individuals.
As I recall you quoted figures that were wrong and I corrected them. No big deal.
I get more stick than anyone and no one agrees with me publicly. Privately they do and I understand this phenomenon. It is a football fan thing.
Levien does the club a big favour by selling the club for £3000. That is 0.01% of its value. They could have had a laugh at the fans who berate them and handed it over to the Trust and that means National league misery like Wrexham and wip rounds for the tax bill.
How do I know this? There is a precedent. Wrexham FC. In the wilderness for 20+ years. [Post edited 7 Dec 13:53]
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You call me clueless, hapless and I suppose coming from a clear bigoted, racist, intolerant old man, it could be worse.
Your " I am right and the rest of the world is wrong" attitude beggars belief
You criticise anyone who doesn't see things your way, constantly call a silly harmless song ( I don't like it or sing it but I don't take offence as I don't feel it applies to me ) and are generally passive aggressive.
Keith's tolerance of you beggars belief but I have no issue with him.
As for your defence of Levien and Co I can almost believe you have a personal or financial interest linked with them.
There used to be a poster whom I believe is from up your way who would criticise Gylfi and Llorente ( describing the latter as a wardrobe ).
I often wonder if you are him or related to him as he too held strange views which opposed the views of all others on the board and he too was arrogant and oppositional for no good reason
Edit - should have added you bore everyone on here too [Post edited 7 Dec 17:34]
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 20:55 - Dec 7 with 300 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 12:04 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If you said Levien and co were the new Petty then you truly are clueless. I thought is was Max actually. I do not lack bravery but try to avoid naming individuals.
As I recall you quoted figures that were wrong and I corrected them. No big deal.
I get more stick than anyone and no one agrees with me publicly. Privately they do and I understand this phenomenon. It is a football fan thing.
Levien does the club a big favour by selling the club for £3000. That is 0.01% of its value. They could have had a laugh at the fans who berate them and handed it over to the Trust and that means National league misery like Wrexham and wip rounds for the tax bill.
How do I know this? There is a precedent. Wrexham FC. In the wilderness for 20+ years. [Post edited 7 Dec 13:53]
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I get more stick than anyone and no one agrees with me publicly. Privately they do and I understand this phenomenon. It is a football fan thing.
How arrogant is that? This board is mostly anonymous, if somebody agreed with you they would say so and just a couple do though most think you mostly post nonsense. Telling you you're wrong isn't "stick" at least not compared to labelling thousands of fans as stupid, stone cold losers, low quality people of poor intellect etc, that is called giving stick and when you do it you really should expect some pushing back.
Where I agree with you is, selling the club was the best thing Levein has done for us. If you have the price right I have no idea, I am not privvy to such things but then, neither are you. Maybe I should ask where you got your numbers from, where they posted on here, or are you guessing? | | | |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:55 - Dec 7 with 276 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 16:28 - Dec 7 by STID2017 |
You call me clueless, hapless and I suppose coming from a clear bigoted, racist, intolerant old man, it could be worse.
Your " I am right and the rest of the world is wrong" attitude beggars belief
You criticise anyone who doesn't see things your way, constantly call a silly harmless song ( I don't like it or sing it but I don't take offence as I don't feel it applies to me ) and are generally passive aggressive.
Keith's tolerance of you beggars belief but I have no issue with him.
As for your defence of Levien and Co I can almost believe you have a personal or financial interest linked with them.
There used to be a poster whom I believe is from up your way who would criticise Gylfi and Llorente ( describing the latter as a wardrobe ).
I often wonder if you are him or related to him as he too held strange views which opposed the views of all others on the board and he too was arrogant and oppositional for no good reason
Edit - should have added you bore everyone on here too [Post edited 7 Dec 17:34]
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You call filthy ethnic slurs as "harmless" and when applied exclusively to Welsh people you say it is " nothing to do with me" .
I understand your character and understand why you do not like me correcting your incorrect figures.
My position is simple logic.
If Welsh slurs and are harmless then so are monkey chants. In my opinion both are filth and should be discouraged be everyone.
Levien sold the club for 0.01% of its value to lend the new owners the guest possible start. The Trust should mention this in their statement but will not. I see no reason for their existence. | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:47 - Dec 7 with 253 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:55 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You call filthy ethnic slurs as "harmless" and when applied exclusively to Welsh people you say it is " nothing to do with me" .
I understand your character and understand why you do not like me correcting your incorrect figures.
My position is simple logic.
If Welsh slurs and are harmless then so are monkey chants. In my opinion both are filth and should be discouraged be everyone.
Levien sold the club for 0.01% of its value to lend the new owners the guest possible start. The Trust should mention this in their statement but will not. I see no reason for their existence. |
Where do you get your figures AND why do you not mention the promotion clause? If Colemans reign sees us promoted again there will be a significant payment due to the previous ownership. | | | |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 23:51 - Dec 7 with 223 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 22:47 - Dec 7 by SullutaCreturned |
Where do you get your figures AND why do you not mention the promotion clause? If Colemans reign sees us promoted again there will be a significant payment due to the previous ownership. |
It is a hypothetical clause and the chance of it happening in full is classed as highly unlikely in my opinion.
I am the only one asked to provide evidence and proof it seems. | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 00:45 - Dec 8 with 206 views | STID2017 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 21:55 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You call filthy ethnic slurs as "harmless" and when applied exclusively to Welsh people you say it is " nothing to do with me" .
I understand your character and understand why you do not like me correcting your incorrect figures.
My position is simple logic.
If Welsh slurs and are harmless then so are monkey chants. In my opinion both are filth and should be discouraged be everyone.
Levien sold the club for 0.01% of its value to lend the new owners the guest possible start. The Trust should mention this in their statement but will not. I see no reason for their existence. |
You really are an unbelievably stupid man if you think a group of people singing a song about themselves is the same as the same or similar group making monkey chants aimed at other ethnic groups.
As for my character you know nothing of me, my lifestyle, triumphs and tragedies, thoughts and deeds or intelligence, qualifications, life experiences, or anything about me.
There are quite a few on here I have had the pleasure to meet and spend time with, be that a few hours or much longer.
Do not dare to presume you know the first thing about me.
You are no different to that creep I mentioned who used to berate Gylfi and Llorente without rhyme or reason | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 00:49 - Dec 8 with 203 views | STID2017 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 23:51 - Dec 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is a hypothetical clause and the chance of it happening in full is classed as highly unlikely in my opinion.
I am the only one asked to provide evidence and proof it seems. |
For evidence refer to Keith and his researchers
As for your nonsense, look up Walter Mitty | |
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| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 01:22 - Dec 8 with 196 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Portsmouth Matchday Prog: The Trust on 00:49 - Dec 8 by STID2017 |
For evidence refer to Keith and his researchers
As for your nonsense, look up Walter Mitty |
I have called you careless and that is about it. You did not check your figures. It is not a big deal. You seem very upset about it. I called the person who said Levien was another version of Petty as hapless and Clueless and it was not even you as I recall.
I am not too clear what you are upset about to be honest. | |
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