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Farmers 15:36 - Nov 21 with 2548 viewscontroversial_jack

Getting on my nerves with their whinging, and they are the only ones that do any work attitude
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Farmers on 19:17 - Nov 24 with 532 viewsScotia

Farmers on 10:08 - Nov 23 by Dr_Winston

As the old saying goes, "Invest in land. They're not making any more of it".

How hard do you think it'll be for an entity like Blackrock to convert agricultural land into, say, a Solar Farm? We already know the current Government loves both them and net zero.

How solid will the restrictions on land use be when the Govt is desperate to build millions of homes to contain an ever expanding population?


It would be pretty hard for that to happen really because it would have to go through the planning process. Also arable agricultural land is probably worth more than putting a solar farm on it.

Similarly with housing, undoubtedly worth a lot but a bloody nightmare to build on greenfield land.
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Farmers on 19:28 - Nov 24 with 511 viewsBoundy

Farmers on 19:17 - Nov 24 by Scotia

It would be pretty hard for that to happen really because it would have to go through the planning process. Also arable agricultural land is probably worth more than putting a solar farm on it.

Similarly with housing, undoubtedly worth a lot but a bloody nightmare to build on greenfield land.


In the normal scheme of things you'd be correct but with the Senedd holding farmers to ransom that to continue to receive grants they have to turn 20% of their land to plant trees , regarding solar farms , don't think arable land is worth more than a solar farm because in a lots of cases it isn't. There's marginally less greenfield sites being built on than brownfield sites
Brownfield land:
The Government defines brownfield land as developed land, that is, or was previously, occupied by a permanent structure.
Brownfield land accounts for 8.7%of land in England and 54% of all new homes in 2021/22 were built on brownfield land.
The National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF) and Homes England’s Strategic Plan 2023-2028 prioritise brownfield development to better utilise existing land in built-up areas and to preserve undeveloped land.
Greenfield land: Greenfield typically refers to land which has not been developed. The vast majority of land in England is greenfield land, accounting for 91.1% of land across the country. In 2021/22, 46% of new homes were built on greenfield land.

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Farmers on 21:50 - Nov 25 with 378 viewsbuilthjack

Have farmers forgotten about the awful trade deal that JOHNSON agreed with Australia and New Zealand? Now that should have been something to really protest over.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Farmers on 00:32 - Nov 26 with 362 viewsRobbie

Some very wealthy farmers found the loophole out of paying Capital Gains Tax by trusting their Estate to an heir and the relevant legal paperwork at that time , all above board .

Labour have seen this get out clause and want to close it , big earners now will pay CGT in another form of taxation .

Like them or loathe them Farmers are necessary for quality local shop products .
Many customers will put local produce first over Supermarket pre packed off the shelf .

Strangely my very close family member was up in arms when we left the EEC after Brexit .
No more funding for her livestock thereafter .

Not a happy bunny .
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Farmers on 09:30 - Nov 26 with 320 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 00:32 - Nov 26 by Robbie

Some very wealthy farmers found the loophole out of paying Capital Gains Tax by trusting their Estate to an heir and the relevant legal paperwork at that time , all above board .

Labour have seen this get out clause and want to close it , big earners now will pay CGT in another form of taxation .

Like them or loathe them Farmers are necessary for quality local shop products .
Many customers will put local produce first over Supermarket pre packed off the shelf .

Strangely my very close family member was up in arms when we left the EEC after Brexit .
No more funding for her livestock thereafter .

Not a happy bunny .


Local farm shops are more expensive than supermarkets
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Farmers on 09:32 - Nov 26 with 316 viewsBoundy

Farmers on 09:30 - Nov 26 by controversial_jack

Local farm shops are more expensive than supermarkets


and ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Farmers on 11:12 - Nov 26 with 303 viewsScotia

Farmers on 09:30 - Nov 26 by controversial_jack

Local farm shops are more expensive than supermarkets


They're a realistic price based on the cost of what it takes to produce food.
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Farmers on 12:37 - Nov 26 with 292 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 09:32 - Nov 26 by Boundy

and ?


Therefore, i will buy from a supermarket
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Farmers on 13:42 - Nov 26 with 281 viewsraynor94

Farmers on 09:30 - Nov 26 by controversial_jack

Local farm shops are more expensive than supermarkets


Because the food is far superior, you only get what you pay for

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Farmers on 15:44 - Nov 26 with 238 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 13:42 - Nov 26 by raynor94

Because the food is far superior, you only get what you pay for


So why don't farmers sell that superior quality to supermarkets? They must be giving us crap and saving the best for themselves
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Farmers on 16:00 - Nov 26 with 235 viewsmajorraglan

Farmers on 15:44 - Nov 26 by controversial_jack

So why don't farmers sell that superior quality to supermarkets? They must be giving us crap and saving the best for themselves


Because the supermarkets are competing against each other for customers and they are locked in a race to try and get the lowest price and that means the cheapest produce and lower quality cuts.
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Farmers on 16:14 - Nov 26 with 231 viewsraynor94

Farmers on 15:44 - Nov 26 by controversial_jack

So why don't farmers sell that superior quality to supermarkets? They must be giving us crap and saving the best for themselves


Go to a good local butcher, none of those cheap cuts of meat wrapped in plastic, you have no idea what you are buying

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Farmers on 17:00 - Nov 26 with 217 viewsScotia

Farmers on 16:00 - Nov 26 by majorraglan

Because the supermarkets are competing against each other for customers and they are locked in a race to try and get the lowest price and that means the cheapest produce and lower quality cuts.


We won't pay for quality from a supermarket, by the time they've taken their cut a top quality steak would be a lot more than it is now.

Just think of what's in a 99p McDonald's burger. If the price reflected the cost of production it would be about £3 I reckon.

Eggs and milk are priced far too low too.
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Farmers on 18:36 - Nov 26 with 198 viewsonehunglow

Farmers on 17:00 - Nov 26 by Scotia

We won't pay for quality from a supermarket, by the time they've taken their cut a top quality steak would be a lot more than it is now.

Just think of what's in a 99p McDonald's burger. If the price reflected the cost of production it would be about £3 I reckon.

Eggs and milk are priced far too low too.


So is alcohol and tobacco
Just saying
However,we don’t like taxing them as it upsets the working people

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Farmers on 19:15 - Nov 26 with 179 viewscontroversial_jack

Farmers on 16:00 - Nov 26 by majorraglan

Because the supermarkets are competing against each other for customers and they are locked in a race to try and get the lowest price and that means the cheapest produce and lower quality cuts.


They aren't competing with each other, it's a cartel. They are all making huge profitd
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Farmers on 19:18 - Nov 26 with 169 viewsKeithHaynes

Mind you the farmer in Tetbury ‘ploughing’ thru the water deserves everything he gets.

A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
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Farmers on 20:29 - Nov 26 with 136 viewsBoundy

Farmers on 19:18 - Nov 26 by KeithHaynes

Mind you the farmer in Tetbury ‘ploughing’ thru the water deserves everything he gets.


Probably p++++d off and who can blame him.

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Farmers on 20:40 - Nov 26 with 129 viewsonehunglow



Any excuse the the Wondrous Ryland

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Farmers on 20:45 - Nov 26 with 125 viewsbuilthjack

Farmers on 19:18 - Nov 26 by KeithHaynes

Mind you the farmer in Tetbury ‘ploughing’ thru the water deserves everything he gets.


Fellow farmers are calling him a w⚓️

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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Farmers on 21:50 - Nov 26 with 102 viewsmajorraglan

Farmers on 20:45 - Nov 26 by builthjack

Fellow farmers are calling him a w⚓️


I suspect he’s going to have a pretty steep hike in his insurance premiums after that!
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Farmers on 00:19 - Nov 27 with 86 viewsRobbie

Farmers on 09:32 - Nov 26 by Boundy

and ?


Sister does rear farmland breed pigs , all open air and free to roam on grassland until slaughter , have had some pork sausages from her barn door business and the taste was so different to bangers from the Supermarkets , as a farmer no more freebies thereafter all got to paid for at top dollar if I want anymore .

Will I now go back and pay £3 for six quality sausages or a Quid for some leftover ears and remains of a captured pig which had no life .

No wonder one of my family turned Vegitarian from a very young age after seeing well looked after animals , then as said earlier , shrink wrapped offal available to the customer who cannot afford prime cuts of meat .
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Farmers on 09:47 - Nov 27 with 35 viewsBoundy

Farmers on 00:19 - Nov 27 by Robbie

Sister does rear farmland breed pigs , all open air and free to roam on grassland until slaughter , have had some pork sausages from her barn door business and the taste was so different to bangers from the Supermarkets , as a farmer no more freebies thereafter all got to paid for at top dollar if I want anymore .

Will I now go back and pay £3 for six quality sausages or a Quid for some leftover ears and remains of a captured pig which had no life .

No wonder one of my family turned Vegitarian from a very young age after seeing well looked after animals , then as said earlier , shrink wrapped offal available to the customer who cannot afford prime cuts of meat .
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The meat produce sold at Swansea Market& local butchers is imo much superior to supermarkets which I believe has always been the case with the difference being tangible. Pork chops from Asda or from the market there's no competition it has to be the market every time, also by buying local you're keeping someone local in work and the money within the community. Someone mentioned farming cartels ,what a load of chicken s888, there are cartlels but those running them are the supermarkets not the farmers ,that's the price you pay for having cheap highly processed meat.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Farmers on 09:55 - Nov 27 with 29 viewsraynor94

Farmers on 09:47 - Nov 27 by Boundy

The meat produce sold at Swansea Market& local butchers is imo much superior to supermarkets which I believe has always been the case with the difference being tangible. Pork chops from Asda or from the market there's no competition it has to be the market every time, also by buying local you're keeping someone local in work and the money within the community. Someone mentioned farming cartels ,what a load of chicken s888, there are cartlels but those running them are the supermarkets not the farmers ,that's the price you pay for having cheap highly processed meat.


Couldn't agree more I buy all my fresh produce from Swansea Market, yes you pay a bit more but you know exactly what you are getting

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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