| Iran attacking Israel 18:05 - Oct 1 with 14220 views | raynor94 |
All kicking off now, Iran launching ballistic missiles into Tel Aviv.
America vowing to defend Israel |  |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 15:49 - Oct 13 with 1237 views | DJack |
No dodge just fact and...well, you were building a strawman. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 15:58 - Oct 13 with 1229 views | AnotherJohn |
| Iran attacking Israel on 15:40 - Oct 13 by onehunglow |
And the upside is of course that martyrs get to go to Paradise and have their choice of virgins on tap. |
There is an angel positioned at the Pearly Gates tasked with picking out deceased gynaecologists experienced in hymenoplasty, such is the need to refresh supplies.  |  | | |
| Iran attacking Israel on 16:40 - Oct 13 with 1195 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Iran attacking Israel on 15:49 - Oct 13 by DJack |
No dodge just fact and...well, you were building a strawman. |
Building a strawman by asking what they should have done differently? |  |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 17:44 - Oct 13 with 1159 views | onehunglow |
| Iran attacking Israel on 15:58 - Oct 13 by AnotherJohn |
There is an angel positioned at the Pearly Gates tasked with picking out deceased gynaecologists experienced in hymenoplasty, such is the need to refresh supplies. |
Jeeez.just about to have dinner | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 17:55 - Oct 13 with 1141 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 15:40 - Oct 13 by onehunglow |
And the upside is of course that martyrs get to go to Paradise and have their choice of virgins on tap. |
Do you get to chose your virgins or are they allocated? |  |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 18:08 - Oct 13 with 1112 views | onehunglow |
| Iran attacking Israel on 17:55 - Oct 13 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Do you get to chose your virgins or are they allocated? |
Think it’s a Free House
They’re brought up to obey,aren’t they, as is the case with women in most religions
It’s about male power | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 18:13 - Oct 13 with 1104 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Iran attacking Israel on 17:55 - Oct 13 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Do you get to chose your virgins or are they allocated? |
If you’re a virgin in a culture where men can have four wives each there’s a good chance you’re not a looker. | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 18:13 - Oct 13 with 1104 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 18:08 - Oct 13 by onehunglow |
Think it’s a Free House
They’re brought up to obey,aren’t they, as is the case with women in most religions
It’s about male power |
I was worried that someone may be expecting men or women and get the opposite of what they were expecting, it would be disappointing having gone to all that effort. | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 19:23 - Oct 13 with 1069 views | DJack |
| Iran attacking Israel on 16:40 - Oct 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Building a strawman by asking what they should have done differently? |
The current Israeli government is reprehensible as it is comprised of religious extremists and hardline nationalists. It is that bad hundreds of thousands of Israeli's protested the government and, many observers say, they were close to bringing the government down. Then Bibi got his hail Mary then levelled Gaza and is now doing similar in Beirut.
This is the kind of guy the current Israeli government is comprised of...
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| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 20:26 - Oct 13 with 1012 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 19:23 - Oct 13 by DJack |
The current Israeli government is reprehensible as it is comprised of religious extremists and hardline nationalists. It is that bad hundreds of thousands of Israeli's protested the government and, many observers say, they were close to bringing the government down. Then Bibi got his hail Mary then levelled Gaza and is now doing similar in Beirut.
This is the kind of guy the current Israeli government is comprised of...
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People who advocate PR need to understand that in some counties extremists hold the balance of power. Of course in Iran and Gaza political demonstrations are banned and political opponents have found themselves falling off high buildings or imprisoned, tortured and ultimately executed.
Of course, Hezbollah and Hamas reason for being is to destroy Israel. What a mess! | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 21:23 - Oct 13 with 982 views | DJack |
| Iran attacking Israel on 20:26 - Oct 13 by JACKMANANDBOY |
People who advocate PR need to understand that in some counties extremists hold the balance of power. Of course in Iran and Gaza political demonstrations are banned and political opponents have found themselves falling off high buildings or imprisoned, tortured and ultimately executed.
Of course, Hezbollah and Hamas reason for being is to destroy Israel. What a mess! |
In very few cases that is true. Netenyahu is that crazed for power/control he was happy to bring on board the fringe lunatics. He could have worked with more moderate people but he knew that if he did that some of his more destructive (to co-occuption with Arabs) ideas would have been thwarted/stopped dead.
And yes, the middle east is a mess. One that may never reach an equitable concensus. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 22:14 - Oct 13 with 923 views | controversial_jack |
Gaza is just 20 miles by 7. Not sure how they can avoid buildings with their tunnels | | | |
| Iran attacking Israel on 22:30 - Oct 13 with 910 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 22:14 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack |
Gaza is just 20 miles by 7. Not sure how they can avoid buildings with their tunnels |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 22:36 - Oct 13 with 909 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 22:14 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack |
Gaza is just 20 miles by 7. Not sure how they can avoid buildings with their tunnels |
You said they can operate in the open, building tunnels for military use under a civilian population is a war crime of course. | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 23:03 - Oct 13 with 897 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 21:23 - Oct 13 by DJack |
In very few cases that is true. Netenyahu is that crazed for power/control he was happy to bring on board the fringe lunatics. He could have worked with more moderate people but he knew that if he did that some of his more destructive (to co-occuption with Arabs) ideas would have been thwarted/stopped dead.
And yes, the middle east is a mess. One that may never reach an equitable concensus. |
I don't think the issue is Arabs, there are two million living in Israel and work in the police, army, as judges and MPs. Israel and Sunni Saudi Arabia were about to sign an agreement on the back of the Abraham Accords when October the 7th happened. The radical Shias in Iran were keen to undermine that, Jordan and Egypt want to maintain stability, Jordan helping out when the last Iranian missiles were launched, Egypt has it's own terrorist nutters to deal with in the North Sunai. Layers and layers of complexity right now without opening the history book or considering the many factions fighting in Syria, Yemen and Iraq. [Post edited 13 Oct 23:20]
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| Iran attacking Israel on 10:25 - Oct 14 with 797 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
You need to read Rule 23 in full. | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 13:10 - Oct 14 with 715 views | DJack |
| Iran attacking Israel on 23:03 - Oct 13 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I don't think the issue is Arabs, there are two million living in Israel and work in the police, army, as judges and MPs. Israel and Sunni Saudi Arabia were about to sign an agreement on the back of the Abraham Accords when October the 7th happened. The radical Shias in Iran were keen to undermine that, Jordan and Egypt want to maintain stability, Jordan helping out when the last Iranian missiles were launched, Egypt has it's own terrorist nutters to deal with in the North Sunai. Layers and layers of complexity right now without opening the history book or considering the many factions fighting in Syria, Yemen and Iraq. [Post edited 13 Oct 23:20]
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Good points but as I linked to above the Israeli Finance minister's quote is not just an individual belief it is seen widely discussed in Israel. A worrying trend | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 14:16 - Oct 14 with 623 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 13:10 - Oct 14 by DJack |
Good points but as I linked to above the Israeli Finance minister's quote is not just an individual belief it is seen widely discussed in Israel. A worrying trend |
I've got a few friends in Israel from my Kibbutz days, they seem to think that most people are worried that there seems to be no plan to end the conflict.
As ever, ordinary folk just want peace, then we get the politicians and religious nutters. | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 15:03 - Oct 14 with 570 views | DJack |
| Iran attacking Israel on 14:16 - Oct 14 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I've got a few friends in Israel from my Kibbutz days, they seem to think that most people are worried that there seems to be no plan to end the conflict.
As ever, ordinary folk just want peace, then we get the politicians and religious nutters. |
Yep, it's always the people who suffer for those who dream of power. | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 00:47 - Oct 15 with 496 views | DJack |
Another reminder of my thoughts before my link.
Hamas and Hezbollah are reprehensible. currently The Israeli government and its action are also reprehensible...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/14/usaid-gasa-aid-meetings-sde-teiman | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 09:45 - Oct 15 with 430 views | onehunglow |
Revenge is overwhelmingly on the lips .
It is the first response uttered.
Both sides are committed to simply carrying it on.
They have all my lifetime
We are all born to die
You’d think we’d love one another,wouldn’t you | |
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| Iran attacking Israel on 10:01 - Oct 15 with 424 views | lifelong |
Just when is this all going to end?
The sight of all these young children in body bags is truly sickening. |  | | |
| Iran attacking Israel on 10:10 - Oct 15 with 419 views | controversial_jack |
| Iran attacking Israel on 10:01 - Oct 15 by lifelong |
Just when is this all going to end?
The sight of all these young children in body bags is truly sickening. |
This is what happens when we and others support a brutal, racist apartheid regime. | | | |
| Iran attacking Israel on 11:06 - Oct 15 with 377 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Iran attacking Israel on 10:01 - Oct 15 by lifelong |
Just when is this all going to end?
The sight of all these young children in body bags is truly sickening. |
Mankind is mad, have a look at the wars in Sudan or Congo. These have been running for many years, millions of deaths in both conflicts.
Since 1998 around 6 million have died in the Congo War! | |
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