| New CEO meeting 13:48 - Feb 27 with 20694 views | TK1 |
I note from social media a small group of fans saying they were invited to a meeting with CEO Christian Nourry yesterday, subsequently drip-feeding info about it: he's fallen in love with QPR, we might change the pre-match music, he's got the best interests of club at heart, he really cares, etc etc...
Has very strong early Paladini vibes to it. Get a few fans onside, privately, tell them what they want to hear, no official club note made of it but message that is required to be spread gets out there.
It'll end in tears for all. Fans forums are excruciating, but the only way this kind of communication with fans can work, that and official interviews. I assume there'll be an LFW interview soon, hopefully from this event. But until then every fan at that meet is being played, just as all the season ticket holders not invited are.
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| New CEO meeting on 19:52 - Feb 29 with 2389 views | numptydumpty |
| New CEO meeting on 19:14 - Feb 29 by daveB |
I think everyone is prepared to give him a go but I'm with Clive in finding this whole keep contracts secret thing a bit weird, there is no real advantage we are getting by doing this
My concern is if we're going to hide from fans something that never been an issue before what else is going to be kept from us and when the ceo is talking about multi club ownership that kind of thing (more general than in reference to us at the moment) I think it's right to be wary of where this is going |
And it's always gone so well in the past with being aware of everything
Let us see how it goes before we automatically go on the offensive against a new way of doing things
He has been here less time than a Mick Beale tenure !!
Was a good transfer window we believe and told a nice little white lie about no chance of signings.
As say give the guy a chance
If it was me in a new job and was already aware of criticisms immediately, well its not a great look
And that's after a decent start in recruitment and on the pitch also [Post edited 29 Feb 19:55]
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| New CEO meeting on 21:33 - Feb 29 with 2218 views | daveB |
| New CEO meeting on 19:52 - Feb 29 by numptydumpty |
And it's always gone so well in the past with being aware of everything
Let us see how it goes before we automatically go on the offensive against a new way of doing things
He has been here less time than a Mick Beale tenure !!
Was a good transfer window we believe and told a nice little white lie about no chance of signings.
As say give the guy a chance
If it was me in a new job and was already aware of criticisms immediately, well its not a great look
And that's after a decent start in recruitment and on the pitch also [Post edited 29 Feb 19:55]
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Things going wrong in the past had nothing to do with us knowing how long players were contracted for
I don't think anyone is going on the offensive against him but it's absolutely right to raise concerns about this and ask why they are doing it and what the benefit is |  | | |
| New CEO meeting on 22:17 - Feb 29 with 2129 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| New CEO meeting on 14:02 - Feb 28 by Rangersw12 |
What did he say about the contracts ?
Are they going to be published going forward or did he double down on it .
Imo if a CEO wants communication with the fans then a start would be a survey to all ST / members which is surely better than a select group of fans .
Also if there isn't any minutes of the meeting all it will do is create a divide and ask further questions however the good intentions |
Yeah, never understood why they wouldn't run a survey of season ticket holders and members. Obviously more work than holding a few face-to-face meetings but does seem like the best way of soliciting the views of your core fanbase. | | | |
| New CEO meeting on 04:59 - Mar 2 with 1689 views | numptydumpty |
Perhaps Clive
Non disclosure of contract lengths could protect players that maybe slightly more mentally fragile from dogs abuse from all.
If we had not known length of Hamaleinen contract and Richards, neither would have been abused consistently online and both said to be very skilful etc. Kelman perhaps too ie said best finisher in training
It's a thought that perhaps yourself and others may not have considered here
They are absolutely privileged young men in terms of money but that still doesn't mean they can't be fragile mentally
If people unaware of deals, the abuse towards them before they havr established themselves at all as a playing member could create massive issues mentally for a young mentally fragile player
However we may just believe they here for one year, the abuse initially would not happen at all. There would be disappointment but not aggressive bear baiting etc
Perhaps look at this management decision at potentially helping and nurturing talent before the knives come out way too early hence destroying a young man's confidence and mental health and meaning he will never achieve what he potentially could. The abuse would be way less if we felt he was off in a year, potentially then could develop in that time. Not every player can deal with reading abuse.
Sure Chris Willock in a different way would agree. Was potentially the previous manager that did for him, yet his father blamed and the player, that didn't help much either. And if as some will say he only playing like that because his contract up, we would not know that either, so with this new tactic, guessing games on here would not happen. And abusive comments from fans could not be read by more fragile mentally young men and whatever they are, they are mainly all very young adults.
Perhaps another way of looking at this decision not to reveal contract lengths. [Post edited 2 Mar 5:18]
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| New CEO meeting on 07:19 - Mar 2 with 1634 views | Northernr |
| New CEO meeting on 04:59 - Mar 2 by numptydumpty |
Perhaps Clive
Non disclosure of contract lengths could protect players that maybe slightly more mentally fragile from dogs abuse from all.
If we had not known length of Hamaleinen contract and Richards, neither would have been abused consistently online and both said to be very skilful etc. Kelman perhaps too ie said best finisher in training
It's a thought that perhaps yourself and others may not have considered here
They are absolutely privileged young men in terms of money but that still doesn't mean they can't be fragile mentally
If people unaware of deals, the abuse towards them before they havr established themselves at all as a playing member could create massive issues mentally for a young mentally fragile player
However we may just believe they here for one year, the abuse initially would not happen at all. There would be disappointment but not aggressive bear baiting etc
Perhaps look at this management decision at potentially helping and nurturing talent before the knives come out way too early hence destroying a young man's confidence and mental health and meaning he will never achieve what he potentially could. The abuse would be way less if we felt he was off in a year, potentially then could develop in that time. Not every player can deal with reading abuse.
Sure Chris Willock in a different way would agree. Was potentially the previous manager that did for him, yet his father blamed and the player, that didn't help much either. And if as some will say he only playing like that because his contract up, we would not know that either, so with this new tactic, guessing games on here would not happen. And abusive comments from fans could not be read by more fragile mentally young men and whatever they are, they are mainly all very young adults.
Perhaps another way of looking at this decision not to reveal contract lengths. [Post edited 2 Mar 5:18]
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Richards isn’t getting abused because of his contract.
Imagine how much angrier people would have been about the ridiculous two years we gave Adomah if they’d spent the whole first season assuming, naturally, it could only ever possibly be a one year deal. |  | | |
| New CEO meeting on 08:48 - Mar 2 with 1532 views | TK1 |
| New CEO meeting on 21:33 - Feb 29 by daveB |
Things going wrong in the past had nothing to do with us knowing how long players were contracted for
I don't think anyone is going on the offensive against him but it's absolutely right to raise concerns about this and ask why they are doing it and what the benefit is |
Not knowing the length of the youth contracts handed out by Clive Berlin under Chris Wright - ludicrous multi-million pound deals on multi-year contracts to players who barely kicked a ball professionally - was a crucial part of QPR going into admin. Couldn't throw the expensive ballast over board quick enough.
I'm just going to say that *I* *am* on the offensive with any new CEO. It's not personal. But he's middle management. We are the custodians. We remain. We're QPR, he's Linkedn. They come and go. And our trust should not be guaranteed. It has to be earned, properly, over time.
(This is not directed to you Dave, but generally just my feelings)
Please direct me to the chairman or CEO who didn't arrive at the club in a flurry of "we're lucky to have him; he really cares; he's got really innovative ideas; he's passionate; he's exactly what we need after the last guy" messages and then left a few years later in either shame, embarrassment, apologetic retreat or against a backdrop of unrest, disdain and protest. Remember that song about Flavio and Bernie? That was a good one.
We're QPR. They're passing through. They don't get to keep secrets (that aren't really secrets) from us, or divide fans into some animals are more equal than others sections. Want the best for the club? Prove it, Chris.
Anyway, off to Leicester now. | | | |
| New CEO meeting on 09:43 - Mar 2 with 1446 views | TK1 |
Final point on contracts:
Let's assume (hope) that Nourry and Cifuentes are really successful. At the end of 2024/25 season QPR make the play-offs but fall short of promotion: beaten by bigger ex-Prem clubs en route, no shame in that etc.
Success of both is noted and they are highly coveted. They are snatched by ambitious PL or European clubs (we don't know anything about their own length of contracts of course).
So we have a great 24/25 season, but lose excellent coach and wily CEO, both of whom are young and extremely ambitious.
What would be the legacy? A load of players on contracts fans don't know the length of and ready made excuse for the next CEO for financial woe. (And what if some of that near-miss success in 23/24 is built upon pushing the FFP bill, betting on a few players to take us up as we have done a decade earlier?)
Another good conspiracy theory is that as Nourry has a history of working on multi-club deals, his arrival is tied into that and not revealing contract lengths is a vital part of clubs that are to be part of a multi-club group moving players between clubs.
I mean, these are both batshit, I agree. But they still seem more logical than anything suggested for not sharing contract lengths by CEO.
There is no sensible reason for it. | | | |
| New CEO meeting on 12:40 - Mar 2 with 1319 views | numptydumpty |
| New CEO meeting on 07:19 - Mar 2 by Northernr |
Richards isn’t getting abused because of his contract.
Imagine how much angrier people would have been about the ridiculous two years we gave Adomah if they’d spent the whole first season assuming, naturally, it could only ever possibly be a one year deal. |
Think you missing my point that potentially if people only not know players contracts lengths, more fragile personalities have chance to grow in first season without fans going on the attack.
And your points are based on a previously flawed regime also
And as said before, the club are going to engage in contracts and lengths etc for what they consider to be the betterment of the club. We knew contract lengths when Bhatia, Ferdinand, Hoos were in control. Its not as if fans knowing this, affects the contracts, they are going to do what they think best anyhow.
This regime have already heard from fans so know what is required from a fans perspective, so why the need to keep fans in the loop
It could as said many times be beneficial to club and players development being more guarded at such ways.
We are not going to agree but think you not quite understanding my points I am aiming to make.
No worries though.
Three nil win today would not go amiss !!!!!! 😂
C'mon you Rs [Post edited 2 Mar 12:44]
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| New CEO meeting on 13:55 - Mar 2 with 1195 views | swisscottage |
| New CEO meeting on 12:40 - Mar 2 by numptydumpty |
Think you missing my point that potentially if people only not know players contracts lengths, more fragile personalities have chance to grow in first season without fans going on the attack.
And your points are based on a previously flawed regime also
And as said before, the club are going to engage in contracts and lengths etc for what they consider to be the betterment of the club. We knew contract lengths when Bhatia, Ferdinand, Hoos were in control. Its not as if fans knowing this, affects the contracts, they are going to do what they think best anyhow.
This regime have already heard from fans so know what is required from a fans perspective, so why the need to keep fans in the loop
It could as said many times be beneficial to club and players development being more guarded at such ways.
We are not going to agree but think you not quite understanding my points I am aiming to make.
No worries though.
Three nil win today would not go amiss !!!!!! 😂
C'mon you Rs [Post edited 2 Mar 12:44]
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Fans will go on the attack based on nothing more than conjecture lies gossip and rumour.
Even if you put the information out there, its not going to make much difference to those that stick to the make believe over facts of which there's far too many on this board and in the wider fan base.
As I said, he can't win no matter what he does. Even if we won the premiership in 5 years time, people would still be moaning about the water pressure in the SAR bogs ( and that is a fact the there's pretty much none ;) ). | | | |
| New CEO meeting on 14:17 - Mar 2 with 1149 views | Antti_Heinola |
I can't see the gain from it. But fans will believe what they want to believe. Some fans genuinely think Begovic is on 38k per week. |  |
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| New CEO meeting on 11:08 - Mar 3 with 976 views | francisbowles |
| New CEO meeting on 12:40 - Mar 2 by numptydumpty |
Think you missing my point that potentially if people only not know players contracts lengths, more fragile personalities have chance to grow in first season without fans going on the attack.
And your points are based on a previously flawed regime also
And as said before, the club are going to engage in contracts and lengths etc for what they consider to be the betterment of the club. We knew contract lengths when Bhatia, Ferdinand, Hoos were in control. Its not as if fans knowing this, affects the contracts, they are going to do what they think best anyhow.
This regime have already heard from fans so know what is required from a fans perspective, so why the need to keep fans in the loop
It could as said many times be beneficial to club and players development being more guarded at such ways.
We are not going to agree but think you not quite understanding my points I am aiming to make.
No worries though.
Three nil win today would not go amiss !!!!!! 😂
C'mon you Rs [Post edited 2 Mar 12:44]
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Good points and I can see both sides of this BUT fans do need to be kept in the loop. We are not only customers but stakeholders and it tends to be a life long 'investment', often handed down through generations.
Owners may be the big financiers of the club but they come and go.
Supporters have a financial and emotional attachment that usually lasts a lifetime. | | | |
| New CEO meeting on 12:20 - Mar 3 with 867 views | SheffieldHoop |
| New CEO meeting on 08:48 - Mar 2 by TK1 |
Not knowing the length of the youth contracts handed out by Clive Berlin under Chris Wright - ludicrous multi-million pound deals on multi-year contracts to players who barely kicked a ball professionally - was a crucial part of QPR going into admin. Couldn't throw the expensive ballast over board quick enough.
I'm just going to say that *I* *am* on the offensive with any new CEO. It's not personal. But he's middle management. We are the custodians. We remain. We're QPR, he's Linkedn. They come and go. And our trust should not be guaranteed. It has to be earned, properly, over time.
(This is not directed to you Dave, but generally just my feelings)
Please direct me to the chairman or CEO who didn't arrive at the club in a flurry of "we're lucky to have him; he really cares; he's got really innovative ideas; he's passionate; he's exactly what we need after the last guy" messages and then left a few years later in either shame, embarrassment, apologetic retreat or against a backdrop of unrest, disdain and protest. Remember that song about Flavio and Bernie? That was a good one.
We're QPR. They're passing through. They don't get to keep secrets (that aren't really secrets) from us, or divide fans into some animals are more equal than others sections. Want the best for the club? Prove it, Chris.
Anyway, off to Leicester now. |
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