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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top 23:21 - Oct 21 with 3484 viewsOakR

People are calling for Ainsworth to go, understandably.

Before (and if) that happens, our most important decision is to appoint some who knows about how to manage a football club, not financially but in terms of how to run the footballing side. Can be a CEO, DOF whatever we want to call them - they should be what we are spending all our money on right now as otherwise we are wasting money time and time again with bad signings and managerial appointments and will never get out of the spiral without getting lucky.

Once that person is in, they either then appoint others as they see fit (DOF, Analytics, Scouting etc). Then:

1. Decide on playing style / structure etc we want for the next 5-10 years (roughly, obviously things change)

2. Evaluate manager, coaches, academy and playing staff - which ones work with this, which don't. Replicate structure across all teams U23s and below.

3. Manager leaves / stays

4. Players leave / stay / are not renewed

5. Identify players to sign and potential future managers.

Managers and players can change, but core structure stays meaning less disruption when players leave.

This sounds a lot easier than I am sure it is, and infairness under Warburton / Les we were not far off it I think.

We now have an unbalanced side, with some players who want it on the ground, some who want to hoof it, an unproven manager (which can be fine) who has played direct football in a squad with no-one who can hold the ball up or / or win it in the air and our best player by far Chair who wants it on the ground.

I'd assume we want to have a plan to make money from player sales - so selling when players are on form, and having as ready as possible replacements. Fulham, Brentford, Brighton can manage - no reason we can't, but it won't be quick.

Whether we go down or stay up we need a change at the top otherwise the board are just playing Championship Manager on their laptops with predictable results.

The next few years are likely to be painful, but we need a plan to see us come out of it - there just doesn't seem to be one right now.

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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:00 - Oct 22 with 3348 viewsstainrods_elbow

This! Right now, I'd give the coaching team three games, tops, to prove they're not completely clueless. Regardless of that outcome, Hoos, Hall, Ramsey, and Belk all need to be moved on. We need root and branch reform of this rotten, complacent, half-cocked club culture. If we're going to sink this season, I want the lot of them out of the building.

After that, the owners need to sit down and talk about their plans, ambitions and lack of credibility - between themselves and with the fanbase. All this starts with us, of course, and the standards we do or don't hold them to. A bad result vs the Baggies and another shameful capitulation to Leicester, and I think the fans will force the board's hand regardless on South Africa Road.
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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:26 - Oct 22 with 3280 viewsSteveB

Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:00 - Oct 22 by stainrods_elbow

This! Right now, I'd give the coaching team three games, tops, to prove they're not completely clueless. Regardless of that outcome, Hoos, Hall, Ramsey, and Belk all need to be moved on. We need root and branch reform of this rotten, complacent, half-cocked club culture. If we're going to sink this season, I want the lot of them out of the building.

After that, the owners need to sit down and talk about their plans, ambitions and lack of credibility - between themselves and with the fanbase. All this starts with us, of course, and the standards we do or don't hold them to. A bad result vs the Baggies and another shameful capitulation to Leicester, and I think the fans will force the board's hand regardless on South Africa Road.
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Employ Mark Warburton as DOF, give him a new, big fcuk off broom & a free hand to sweep all the shit away.....
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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:49 - Oct 22 with 3228 viewslave16

Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:26 - Oct 22 by SteveB

Employ Mark Warburton as DOF, give him a new, big fcuk off broom & a free hand to sweep all the shit away.....


I don't think there's a broom that big..,

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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:56 - Oct 22 with 3215 viewsOakR

Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 00:26 - Oct 22 by SteveB

Employ Mark Warburton as DOF, give him a new, big fcuk off broom & a free hand to sweep all the shit away.....


What I'd like them to do, is some proper research, probably at least partly via a specialist recruitment firm, and draw up a shortlist. If Warburton ends up on there, great, but if not he's not in just because he is a name we / they know. Define the role, the skills needed then hire not the other way round.

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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 02:34 - Oct 22 with 3128 viewsDavieQPR

So people want stability but are calling for Warburton. A man who has fallen out with every club he has been at. Brentford, Rangers, Notts Forest, QPR and West Ham. Sounds a really good idea.
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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 07:44 - Oct 22 with 2997 viewspaulparker

Good post from the OP but shouldn’t of all this have been done when Les was made DOF ???
That was back in 2015/16 and we have since regressed into a league 2 team
Until this board goes nothing will ever change, you can have a million re sets under these losers but ultimately the club will be worse off
The warning signs were there very early with Caterham and how this lot have had a free ride with the fans baffles me still

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 08:59 - Oct 22 with 2819 viewsPunteR

Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 07:44 - Oct 22 by paulparker

Good post from the OP but shouldn’t of all this have been done when Les was made DOF ???
That was back in 2015/16 and we have since regressed into a league 2 team
Until this board goes nothing will ever change, you can have a million re sets under these losers but ultimately the club will be worse off
The warning signs were there very early with Caterham and how this lot have had a free ride with the fans baffles me still


Yeh I kinda feel it's all a bit too late now.. Caterham was a massive red flag. Some fans on here called the owners out years ago but got shouted down for it. Look where we are now.

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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 09:51 - Oct 22 with 2725 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

It all sounds great, but only if the owners want that structure in place, which ours have proven time and again they don't.

Ferdinand tried, but overuled numerous times by the owners regarding managers (Ainsworth, McLaren etc), players (Austin).

The club needs to be sold ASAP for the correct structures to be put in place.
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Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 18:56 - Oct 22 with 2413 viewsE15Hoop

Trickle down bad decisions - time to start again - from the top on 02:34 - Oct 22 by DavieQPR

So people want stability but are calling for Warburton. A man who has fallen out with every club he has been at. Brentford, Rangers, Notts Forest, QPR and West Ham. Sounds a really good idea.


...Don't forget Watford before that, by his own admission.
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