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Well technically we are not short of a few bob, Ruben is more than minted and Amit and his ex father in law aren't looking down the side of the sofas at the moment. It's just FFP that is screwing down our ambitions. But in reality it would be great to win this league with what we have rather than doing what Derby, Sheff Wed, and Florist have tried to do in the past.
That’s why I mentioned FFP. Our financial position is 100% because of FFP
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 14:18 - Oct 20 with 2605 views
BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 13:29 - Oct 20 by Rokerite
I realise you are not the moneybags club you were a few years ago when you seemed to have multiple billionaires in your boardroom and had been the subject of that documentary series. But I confess I don't quite know what your financial state is today. Has all talk of a new stadium ended or is it still something planned for a future date? Looking at your current board they appear to be very wealthy men in the real world but not by 2022 football standards.
The owners are still very wealthy but the club is not. It annoys me when you get situations like the Newcastle takeover and all the media outlets (inc SSN who should actually know better but it doesn't surprise me they are no better) banging on about how they are now the richest club in the world. They're not.
Our financial state is still very precarious. Owners are pumping in over £1m a month to keep the club afloat, yet fans still moan about more signings, more money, more, more more and have little idea (or caring) of the actual situation in regards to FFP and finances..
As already said, we can have a new training facility (finally) or stadium as it doesn't impact FFP rules which we right royally broke and are suffering for now.
I don't think the problem with the stadium is money, as such, it's location. Finding a suitable site in west London is nigh on impossible and if any is available it'll cost an absolute fortune and have to fight off housing constructors too.
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 14:24 - Oct 20 with 2491 views
Micky Beale's our Gaffer His Belly's slightly fat And when the wolves came calling He said why would I do that I?m staying with rangers The boys in blue and white And when we win the championship We?ll sing this song all night
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 14:28 - Oct 20 with 2441 views
The owners are still very wealthy but the club is not. It annoys me when you get situations like the Newcastle takeover and all the media outlets (inc SSN who should actually know better but it doesn't surprise me they are no better) banging on about how they are now the richest club in the world. They're not.
Our financial state is still very precarious. Owners are pumping in over £1m a month to keep the club afloat, yet fans still moan about more signings, more money, more, more more and have little idea (or caring) of the actual situation in regards to FFP and finances..
As already said, we can have a new training facility (finally) or stadium as it doesn't impact FFP rules which we right royally broke and are suffering for now.
I don't think the problem with the stadium is money, as such, it's location. Finding a suitable site in west London is nigh on impossible and if any is available it'll cost an absolute fortune and have to fight off housing constructors too.
Spot on!
I think people forget what the Limited means in a limited company.
It means the owners are limited in their liability.
A good non football example was some of Jamie Oliver's companies going into liquidation despite the man himself remaining wealthy.
BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 13:46 - Oct 20 by PinnerPaul
Yes well done Les and Lee!!!!!!
Why? Beale's the one who's decided to stay, if confirmed. . . for now. Which is very good news for the season, hopefully. The questions arond MB's contract and medium/long-term thinking remain.
BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 14:18 - Oct 20 by QPR_John
That’s why I mentioned FFP. Our financial position is 100% because of FFP
Which just goes to prove that finances and the lottery of ffp are less important than good coaching, team spirit and holding onto your best players. It's amazing how few people (usually those who've only been watching it for a couple of decades) see that the game hasn't changed in the ways they need to think.
Neck rubbing What It Means: Scratching the neck or rubbing the back of the neck is a self-soothing gesture you might do if you feel uncomfortable. Someone may rub the front, the sides, or the back of their neck to signal they're feeling insecure or stressed.
Why? Beale's the one who's decided to stay, if confirmed. . . for now. Which is very good news for the season, hopefully. The questions arond MB's contract and medium/long-term thinking remain.
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Hang on - you were saying they should go if Beale went, so all on them if he went, but no credit that he stays?
Come on mate, play nicely - MB even said he spoke to them both at length last night.
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 15:01 - Oct 20 with 1967 views
Neck rubbing What It Means: Scratching the neck or rubbing the back of the neck is a self-soothing gesture you might do if you feel uncomfortable. Someone may rub the front, the sides, or the back of their neck to signal they're feeling insecure or stressed.
Or...............they just have an itch?
Smells like a trout farm in here
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 15:08 - Oct 20 with 1929 views
It is all to do with FFP (or whatever it is called now).
The money available in the boardroom is not the issue as they are funding the club by more than £1 million per month. The problem is keeping losses to less than £39 million over the rolling three years as our income is limited.
I think we are reaching the stage where we can't reduce our overall wages by much & still be competitive. As to a new stadium? I have no idea as to what the situation is or whether a site can be found.
On a different subject, are you happy with how the season is going for Sunderland? Were expectations that you would be challenging higher in the table, or would halfway be regarded as good progress?
I don't think any Sunderland supporter can be other than happy with the season on the pitch so far. After four seasons "down there" a comfortable mid-table finish this season will do us just fine. It was a shock to lose Alex Neil mind. There was a certain irony in him choosing to leave for Stoke as twice in my time we poached their manager. I hope you are able to build a new stadium but I realise how difficult that is for London clubs. I wouldn't wish on you the sort of postage stamp sized effort that Brentford have moved to. Their fans seem delighted but knowing it can never be expanded even to 20,000 seems very restrictive and unambitious.
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 15:09 - Oct 20 with 1910 views
BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 14:50 - Oct 20 by PinnerPaul
Hang on - you were saying they should go if Beale went, so all on them if he went, but no credit that he stays?
Come on mate, play nicely - MB even said he spoke to them both at length last night.
Fair enough, I guess - though I still feel the club could and should have blocked any approach at the outset by nipping it in the bud,and I hope Beale will now honour his contract in full. I think we have a fine young manager, but I'm unconvinced Hoos or Les are what we need to progress.
Why? Beale's the one who's decided to stay, if confirmed. . . for now. Which is very good news for the season, hopefully. The questions arond MB's contract and medium/long-term thinking remain.
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SE you seem incredibly determined to criticise the board around this whole affair.
Six months ago they let go a manager that was very popular and had undoubtedly been our best appointment for a decade or so, paying £0 in compensation. They took a risk in appointing a guy that pretty much nobody had heard of who has become the most sought after QPR manager in three decades at least in only 15 games.
We're winning away. We're literally top of the league. We're great to watch. We're competing with teams that have budgets far superior to ours, many of them with wage bills multiple times our own.
I've been more than happy to criticise how the club has been run over the years but what they're achieving this year (so far) is everything I've dreamed of. We're punching above our weight by being superior tactically and having our players better prepared - presumably through better coaching. Critiquing your perception of clauses in the manager's contract just comes across to me as desperately seeking something to lambast the club about, ignoring the fact that they made the great call to get him here in the first place.
The club (all those responsible) deserve an enormous amount of credit for what we're producing right now. From making the tough(ish) Warburton call, the risky Beale appointment, assembling the squad with him and by creating an environment that the players and the manager himself can thrive within.
If you can't be happy now I honestly have no idea when you would be happy. Maybe take a breather and just stare at the league table for a while. It's a beautiful read. It's been a special few months, long may it continue.
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BEALE STAYS!!! (n/t) on 15:30 - Oct 20 with 1701 views
SE you seem incredibly determined to criticise the board around this whole affair.
Six months ago they let go a manager that was very popular and had undoubtedly been our best appointment for a decade or so, paying £0 in compensation. They took a risk in appointing a guy that pretty much nobody had heard of who has become the most sought after QPR manager in three decades at least in only 15 games.
We're winning away. We're literally top of the league. We're great to watch. We're competing with teams that have budgets far superior to ours, many of them with wage bills multiple times our own.
I've been more than happy to criticise how the club has been run over the years but what they're achieving this year (so far) is everything I've dreamed of. We're punching above our weight by being superior tactically and having our players better prepared - presumably through better coaching. Critiquing your perception of clauses in the manager's contract just comes across to me as desperately seeking something to lambast the club about, ignoring the fact that they made the great call to get him here in the first place.
The club (all those responsible) deserve an enormous amount of credit for what we're producing right now. From making the tough(ish) Warburton call, the risky Beale appointment, assembling the squad with him and by creating an environment that the players and the manager himself can thrive within.
If you can't be happy now I honestly have no idea when you would be happy. Maybe take a breather and just stare at the league table for a while. It's a beautiful read. It's been a special few months, long may it continue.
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I think he’d find something to criticise the board about even if we won the Prem!!
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