| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:28 - Aug 20 with 1802 views | Mad_Mike |
Overheard from Nathan Jones on the Away bench when he put on 3 subs at 60
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' Come on lads Fcking get stuck into them. They're Sh1te!'
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:37 - Aug 20 with 1768 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:12 - Aug 20 by jack247 |
I’m probably a couple of games ahead of you, I was where you are after Blackburn (probably Rotherham, but I didn’t want to admit it to myself).
Despite the late collapse, I thought we may have turned a corner when Joe Allen made our midfield tick Tuesday, but it was clearly a false dawn.
Wingbacks aside, we’ve got a good squad. We should be playing much better than we are and picking up more points than we are. Unfortunately, the buck stops at the top. |
Agreed, if you've got no wing backs then don't play a bloody system that relies on them. Not rocket science. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:41 - Aug 20 with 1749 views | blackswan |
Swansea get battered everywhere we go swansea
Get battered martin has to go martin hs to go a p 4 5
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:41 - Aug 20 with 1749 views | cadleigh |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 18:26 - Aug 20 by jasper_T |
The way he wants us to play is daft and self-defeating. Possession without width. It looks pretty in highlights when playing much weaker opposition who also make mistakes (Millwall were atrocious, for example). There's a reason it only "clicked" last season when we played 7 of the bottom 8 in sequence (also Millwall thrown in there).
I really don't understand how some of or fans can still believe the master plan is sound it's just players not being good/fit/impassioned enough. It's a lemon of a system, don't let insistent PR campaigns convince you otherwise. Wingbacks turn backwards. Attacking players stand in the middle of the pitch surrounded by defenders to "congest the centre". One loose pass and they're in, by design.
Possession football doesn't have to look like this rubbish. We've had plenty of examples of entertaining and effective possession football at this club over the years. |
It’s the right question - how can some of our fans be arguing that it’s everyone’s fault but the manager’s? But not sure this is the right place to be asking it. Despite the at times heated debates on here about Martin, I am pretty sure that there is no poster I couldn’t have an enjoyable discussion with over a pint. As Gwyn said, there are very few on here who will not hear a bad word said about Martin, it’s just a question of how concerned each of us is.
But I am willing to bet that before the sun sets, other forums will see supporters argue that it’s the players’ fault (manager’s job ends when they leave the training ground, apparently), it’s the fault of the owners for not backing the manager (ahem Fisher, Sorinola…), that today’s defeat could have been a victory but for fine margins (I believe that one is actually the copyright of someone called Colin Jones).
Why are people still willing to die in a ditch rather than face up to the fact that the Emperor is naked? In some cases pride, I think. Some people who should have known better decided Martin was ‘the real thing’ before a ball was kicked in anger, and they have been desperate to hold the line in the hope that it might come true. Others genuinely enjoy possession for possession’s sake, even if it is played at a walking pace. Some of them only started watching the Swans when we were playing tiki-tikka under Rodgers, and like one of those ducklings who imprint themselves on the first moving object they see, it means the world to them. Even if we lose. Apparently it’s ‘the Swansea Way’, and that’s all that matters innit… [Post edited 20 Aug 2022 19:41]
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:43 - Aug 20 with 1742 views | DDCH |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:41 - Aug 20 by cadleigh |
It’s the right question - how can some of our fans be arguing that it’s everyone’s fault but the manager’s? But not sure this is the right place to be asking it. Despite the at times heated debates on here about Martin, I am pretty sure that there is no poster I couldn’t have an enjoyable discussion with over a pint. As Gwyn said, there are very few on here who will not hear a bad word said about Martin, it’s just a question of how concerned each of us is.
But I am willing to bet that before the sun sets, other forums will see supporters argue that it’s the players’ fault (manager’s job ends when they leave the training ground, apparently), it’s the fault of the owners for not backing the manager (ahem Fisher, Sorinola…), that today’s defeat could have been a victory but for fine margins (I believe that one is actually the copyright of someone called Colin Jones).
Why are people still willing to die in a ditch rather than face up to the fact that the Emperor is naked? In some cases pride, I think. Some people who should have known better decided Martin was ‘the real thing’ before a ball was kicked in anger, and they have been desperate to hold the line in the hope that it might come true. Others genuinely enjoy possession for possession’s sake, even if it is played at a walking pace. Some of them only started watching the Swans when we were playing tiki-tikka under Rodgers, and like one of those ducklings who imprint themselves on the first moving object they see, it means the world to them. Even if we lose. Apparently it’s ‘the Swansea Way’, and that’s all that matters innit… [Post edited 20 Aug 2022 19:41]
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I can't remember such a dire game of football from the Swans, and I have been attending since 1992. I wont go into a full essay response, but when men who are being paid tens of thousands of pounds a week, can't be bothered to put a shift in, the I am sick of paying their wages. |  |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:46 - Aug 20 with 1718 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:41 - Aug 20 by cadleigh |
It’s the right question - how can some of our fans be arguing that it’s everyone’s fault but the manager’s? But not sure this is the right place to be asking it. Despite the at times heated debates on here about Martin, I am pretty sure that there is no poster I couldn’t have an enjoyable discussion with over a pint. As Gwyn said, there are very few on here who will not hear a bad word said about Martin, it’s just a question of how concerned each of us is.
But I am willing to bet that before the sun sets, other forums will see supporters argue that it’s the players’ fault (manager’s job ends when they leave the training ground, apparently), it’s the fault of the owners for not backing the manager (ahem Fisher, Sorinola…), that today’s defeat could have been a victory but for fine margins (I believe that one is actually the copyright of someone called Colin Jones).
Why are people still willing to die in a ditch rather than face up to the fact that the Emperor is naked? In some cases pride, I think. Some people who should have known better decided Martin was ‘the real thing’ before a ball was kicked in anger, and they have been desperate to hold the line in the hope that it might come true. Others genuinely enjoy possession for possession’s sake, even if it is played at a walking pace. Some of them only started watching the Swans when we were playing tiki-tikka under Rodgers, and like one of those ducklings who imprint themselves on the first moving object they see, it means the world to them. Even if we lose. Apparently it’s ‘the Swansea Way’, and that’s all that matters innit… [Post edited 20 Aug 2022 19:41]
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:21 - Aug 20 with 1629 views | Badlands |
Multiple muck ups again from Darling and he's still some fans' darling! |  |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:23 - Aug 20 with 1616 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 19:28 - Aug 20 by Mad_Mike |
Overheard from Nathan Jones on the Away bench when he put on 3 subs at 60
Minutes:
' Come on lads Fcking get stuck into them. They're Sh1te!'
Ouch 😡 |
Horrible rat faced scummer, but can't really argue with what he said. | | | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:40 - Aug 20 with 1566 views | Jack11 |
I’ve had enough of the Russell Martin excuses now. Fed up of hearing about a ‘group of young men’. They’re not a group of young men. We had 3 full internationals starting today. How many other champ sides can say that? Even the ones young in age have a fair bit of experience. It’s just smoke and mirrors to try to hide from his awful tactics. Also goes on about pride in how we play between the boxes. I hope this is the last time I have to say this. Teams let us have those areas. They want us to have meaningless possession for Christ’s sake. Enough is enough now. | | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:50 - Aug 20 with 1532 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:21 - Aug 20 by Badlands |
Multiple muck ups again from Darling and he's still some fans' darling! |
A star pf the future apparently.
Guehi was. | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:57 - Aug 20 with 1519 views | Sirjohnalot |
On the plus side, disabled parking was seemless, stewards were very caring to my dad and the coffee wasn’t bad. So that was nice…. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 21:00 - Aug 20 with 1498 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 08:12 - Aug 19 by Sirjohnalot |
Yes, no reason at all why we cannot challenge. With a bit of luck, we'd be on 9 points. We were awful against Blackburn but should have beaten Rotherham and obviously Millwall |
Nobody can seriously suggest we will challenge for anything other than relegation places.
We could have lost every game so far
What next eh? | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 21:04 - Aug 20 with 1487 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 21:00 - Aug 20 by onehunglow |
Nobody can seriously suggest we will challenge for anything other than relegation places.
We could have lost every game so far
What next eh? |
Was going to have a curry tonight but I’m full after eating all those words | | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 21:09 - Aug 20 with 1466 views | Jack11 |
As Russ keeps saying, we’re nearly a good side. Well, I nearly look like Brad Pitt in the sense I’m a male with a face. | | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 23:17 - Aug 20 with 1252 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:23 - Aug 20 by Treforys_Jack |
Horrible rat faced scummer, but can't really argue with what he said. |
He’s beaten us twice at home under Russ now. The most galling thing is that he has inferior players and still motivates them to come here and win without breaking sweat.
Our players look like they’ve had the life sucked out of them.
No way back for Martin now he simply has to go. |  |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:06 - Aug 21 with 992 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 23:17 - Aug 20 by Brynmill_Jack |
He’s beaten us twice at home under Russ now. The most galling thing is that he has inferior players and still motivates them to come here and win without breaking sweat.
Our players look like they’ve had the life sucked out of them.
No way back for Martin now he simply has to go. |
Not inferior in front of goal and not inferior defending | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:10 - Aug 21 with 993 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 23:17 - Aug 20 by Brynmill_Jack |
He’s beaten us twice at home under Russ now. The most galling thing is that he has inferior players and still motivates them to come here and win without breaking sweat.
Our players look like they’ve had the life sucked out of them.
No way back for Martin now he simply has to go. |
Even more galling than that, is you know plenty of other teams will do exactly the same.
He’s made us easy to beat at home.
I don’t think he’s close to losing his job yet. Would be a massive financial hit to pay his team off and replace them. I think we’ve got a few more games like this to come unfortunately. | | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:15 - Aug 21 with 976 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:10 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
Even more galling than that, is you know plenty of other teams will do exactly the same.
He’s made us easy to beat at home.
I don’t think he’s close to losing his job yet. Would be a massive financial hit to pay his team off and replace them. I think we’ve got a few more games like this to come unfortunately. |
But another relegation would really hit us financially or is that a part of rebuilding ? | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:22 - Aug 21 with 970 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:15 - Aug 21 by onehunglow |
But another relegation would really hit us financially or is that a part of rebuilding ? |
We’re 5 games in. They aren’t going to panic about relegation.
They’ll know that even if we are bottom at Christmas, a decent manager will be able to steer this group of players to safety. I think he’d have to lose the dressing room to go this early.
To be honest, a few did look like they were going through the motions yesterday. | | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:25 - Aug 21 with 963 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:22 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
We’re 5 games in. They aren’t going to panic about relegation.
They’ll know that even if we are bottom at Christmas, a decent manager will be able to steer this group of players to safety. I think he’d have to lose the dressing room to go this early.
To be honest, a few did look like they were going through the motions yesterday. |
Morning 247.
They won't panic as they are not that bothered,or so it seemed.
If they have any ambition,then it is gob smacking obvious we are regressing.
It's hard to find the words really | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:34 - Aug 21 with 965 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:23 - Aug 20 by Treforys_Jack |
Horrible rat faced scummer, but can't really argue with what he said. |
Absolutely spot on. |  |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:35 - Aug 21 with 964 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 20:57 - Aug 20 by Sirjohnalot |
On the plus side, disabled parking was seemless, stewards were very caring to my dad and the coffee wasn’t bad. So that was nice…. |
And important. | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:38 - Aug 21 with 950 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:25 - Aug 21 by onehunglow |
Morning 247.
They won't panic as they are not that bothered,or so it seemed.
If they have any ambition,then it is gob smacking obvious we are regressing.
It's hard to find the words really |
I think his Doube will see him safe until Christmas. | |
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| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:43 - Aug 21 with 932 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:25 - Aug 21 by onehunglow |
Morning 247.
They won't panic as they are not that bothered,or so it seemed.
If they have any ambition,then it is gob smacking obvious we are regressing.
It's hard to find the words really |
There’s a big difference between having ambition to get promoted and ambition not to get relegated.
They will press the panic button if we’re in serious relegation danger, but no team ever is after 5 games.
Russell Martin really doesn’t help himself, but he is in a position where he has to sell his best players just to stand still. It’s not even an open secret anymore. Not suggesting others wouldn’t do better in his position, but no owner would seriously expect a promotion push under those circumstances.
They’d be happy to tick along selling our best players every year until someone takes the club from them. | | | |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:45 - Aug 21 with 924 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Luton Town : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 09:43 - Aug 21 by jack247 |
There’s a big difference between having ambition to get promoted and ambition not to get relegated.
They will press the panic button if we’re in serious relegation danger, but no team ever is after 5 games.
Russell Martin really doesn’t help himself, but he is in a position where he has to sell his best players just to stand still. It’s not even an open secret anymore. Not suggesting others wouldn’t do better in his position, but no owner would seriously expect a promotion push under those circumstances.
They’d be happy to tick along selling our best players every year until someone takes the club from them. |
Fair comment | |
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